Diane Feinstein expects riots?

[Old Union Guy]

Feinstein cites '68 chaos in warning against Sanders convention plan (CNN)
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/18/politics/barbara-boxer-nevada-convention/

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein warned that Bernie Sanders' intention to take his candidacy to the Democratic convention in July could spark unrest similar to the chaotic 1968 convention in Chicago and the riots surrounding it.

"It worries me a great deal," Feinstein told CNN's Manu Raju. "You know, I don't want to go back to the '68 convention, because I worry about what it does to the electorate as a whole -- and he should, too."

...

This worries me a great deal, too.

Already setting up the excuses.

A contingency plan. If Hillary loses in November, planning to blame Bernie supporters.



I expect there will be violence at both conventions, and it won't be Bernie supporters (or Hillary supporters).

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. I expect them too, kind of the police riot style

[AgerolanAmerican]

29. Those are a given

the police always seem to riot on the slightest excuse

What gets my antennae up here is... does Feinstein expect a particular provocation to occur that will make riots a certainty? What's being planned here?

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. I consider her words, and this is the second time, a tell

[tazkcmo]

2. Excellent.

This delicate flower missed her calling. She should have been a police officer. Then she would have carte blanche to shoot those she is so afraid of that she taunts them as she's being protected by other delicate law enforcement officers. Revolutions aren't quiet, polite or overly concerned with the power holders' fragile feelings. It's just the beginning.

[senz]

11. Violence will accomplish NOTHING, and Bernie would not want it.

I cannot think of a better way to harm him and us.

An impressive, imposing presence?

A media-savvy presence?

A show of concerned citizens whom our fellow Americans can relate to and respect?

A well thought-out message of the kind our nation's founders might produce?

YES to all of the above.

But NOT physical violence.

[tazkcmo]

69. What violence?

Who was violent? Where are these masses of violent people? Where did I advocate violence? Do I care if someone's feelings get hurt in this? No. Nor do I care if angry people that shout make those in power uncomfortable or scared? No. Never said anything about violence. This is a revolution and if anyone thinks the shouting will be stopped because of fragile little creatures that have been a party to the crushing of the middle class while living in luxury get their sensibilities bruised then they haven't been paying attention.

[senz]

73. I interpreted your comment as advocating forceful revolution.

Bernie talks about political revolution which is different from what we usually think of as "revolution."

Sorry if I overreacted.

[tazkcmo]

110. lol A day later...

No problem! Yes indeed, a Political Revolution! It's an exciting time.

[senz]

125. It is an incredibly exciting time to be alive.

Scares the heck out of me, but we have to change some things to make this country livable for all the people.

Glad Bernie has all of us to help carry it out, tazkcmo.

[Silver_Witch]

86. Calm down Senz - No Bernie Supporters are Advocating Violence

Only Feinstein and Hillary supporters are advocating it.

[senz]

94. That was seven hours ago. It was straightened out and everything is fine.

[Silver_Witch]

95. Sorry - been working all day...

Just getting to read. So glad it is all worked out!

Peace to you Senz!!!

[2banon]

82. That was Barbara Boxer, not Dianne Feinstein

I don't see DiFi being so stupid, but I didn't thing Boxer would do something so stupid and disgusting either.

Then going full bore on all the cable news circuit proclaiming how freightened of the result of her own deliberate provocations.

Very bizarre.

[senz]

3. If there's no violence, one of the campaigns may try to create some.

The campaign that would benefit the most from it.

[pangaia]

7. Right on the money

Since the Hillary folks have already announced that there will be violence in Philly, there must be violence in Philly

[jwirr]

15. That is obvious who will benefit. To be truthful no one

benefited in 68 and the little innocent Hillary will do her best to look the victim today. And they Hillary campaign also know what pushes us - cheating.

[snowy owl]

20. Protests do not = violence. But jiggering up expectation will lead protests to be viewed as violence

I think that's what is going on. Bernie's people are being threatened into silence in a way.

[BunkieBandit]

55. Perfect answer.

Couldn't have said it better or simpler.

[vintx]

134. This. nt

[Segami]

31. I'm sure Brock is on the job planning.....

Why leave anything to chance and civility when there's so much to gain from orchestrated chaos.

[creeksneakers2]

37. Neither Democrat would benefit from violence

[shanti]

60. that is what concerns me

agent provocateurs.

[ReRe]

104. That's all riots are...

... in America, anyway... plants causing trouble. That's what happened at Nevada (in my opinion.)

[davidpdx]

89. And the results are in......

Fail!

On Sun May 22, 2016, 09:17 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

If there's no violence, one of the campaigns may try to create some.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2029923

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Implication that the Clinton campaign would instigate violence at the convention.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun May 22, 2016, 09:23 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
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Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If that's the implication, it's a dumb one. Trump is the candidate that would benefit from mayhem. A fucked up convention would hurt Hillary the most, given that she'll be the one being nominated.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
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Explanation: Comment is over the top...even as a reaction to the OP. The poster should know better.
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Explanation: What a ridiculous alert. Both sides have made unfounded accusations against the other. This smells of swarm alerting to try to get hides. I hope it goes 0-7.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[senz]

93. Thanks, David!

Some people seem to have a little too much time on their hands.

[left-of-center2012]

4. '68 was a police riot

The cops attacked the demonstrators.
Is that what she expects?

[senz]

13. Nor would I.

[Live and Learn]

22. Exactly! It seems many are not aware of this. nt

[jfern]

67. True, and Nevada last weekend was a message that even in the era of smartphones

the mainstream media will construct their own right-wing narrative that favors Hillary, no matter how many lies they have to make up.

[CanonRay]

6. Someone please fetch my smelling salts!

[Fawke Em]

10. The OP should include the picture of Feinstein's interview.

P.S. Feinstein is my husband's cousin, ironically. We're not big fans. She's really this fru-fru IRL too.

[2banon]

84. Oh that must make for fascinating holiday gatherings.

I would loved to been a fly on the wall of those dinners during the build up to Iraq. holy shit. i'm trying to imagine that scene.

[Aerows]

8. There is already preparation in place

to be pissed off that Democratic voters have no desire to vote for Hillary Clinton. Go right ahead. Be pissed off. It's not my fault she is a terrible candidate and we all have acknowledged it.

When you have to resort to stealing votes, it is plain that public opinion is not on your side.

Go ahead and blame the people that have pointed out that she's a weak candidate - all we did was tell you the damn truth.

If you choose not to hear it, it sure as hell isn't the fault of the people telling you how the cow ate the cabbage.

[creeksneakers2]

41. She hasn't stolen any votes

[bettyellen]

56. I'm worried that the angry rhetoric will attract some unstable people...

Which is not good for anyone. I've cringed at hearing "bern it down" because I feel like when you get a few thousand angry people together one or two will actually take it literally.

[Aerows]

65. If things seem unstable

it is because they are due to screwing voters.

Pretending any different isn't going to look better.

I couldn't crock up a pot of shit worse than what this election has turned into, and I'm saying that as a human being that gives a crap, not some person that wants to get political plugs in.

Then again, it is what Hillary Clinton has always been about. She stirs shit and then wonders why it pisses people off.

Tell people to go fuck themselves and see how many birthday cards you get, bettyellen.

[bettyellen]

71. I heard so many stupid rumours - that votes were taken before it began, that HRCs people alone were

The ones checking the credentials and kicking people out - lies that were only corrected in hindsight.
I am pretty sure some people were manipulated into a misplaced outrage. And I think there are some people who never showed up before hoping for trouble, and their own ignorance about process caused their outrage. That is something we have seen again and again all during the primaries- people tweeting outrage and misinformation about coin tosses, caucus rules, etc. I don't know if they are honest supporters or there to try and make you guys look bad, but the conspiracy stuff to me- has gotten ridiculous. Especially since the GOPs place in fucking over voters is completely ignored. That is so dishonest and irresponsible.

And making excuses for the more than boorish behavior at NV is not any better. It is a working session, fuck anyone screaming sexist slurs at fellow Dems and lifting furniture in anger. They chose to cease participating and shut it down with their shouting. Foolish behavior. The video is not helping their cause at all. All for one or two delegate votes- just foolish.

[Aerows]

75. I'm pissed enough for three people.

Nevada was bullshit, and screaming chairs isn't going to amount to a fart in a tornado compared to what the Democratic party threw away.

They threw votes away, as though it is not necessary for people to show up and vote.

That is some hubris that is beyond words.

[bettyellen]

79. Have you heard details of why delegates lost their credentials?

I'm wondering about that- as far as I understand it,that was a joint decision between SNS and HRC people and HRC lost 8-9 also. If they are being more careful in the final count that's a good thing.
Honestly, they'd bent the rules plenty allowing people disrupting to stay inside. People were hell bent on sabatoging the whole thing, and I'm guessing that would be because their saw they did not have the extra votes they hoped for.

[Aerows]

80. Love you, betty

but don't even go there. There isn't enough sugar, cement and dirt to cover the heinous bullcrap Hillary and her campaign pulled in Nevada.

There is nothing that will make me unsee the horseshit that was blatant as can be.

[bettyellen]

87. Love you too. Hope the facts come out soon because the cloud of rumours just

Does not cut it. We can talk more when the results of the investigation are in- okay?

[Aerows]

88. I'm absolutely on board

with facts coming to light.

[Silver_Witch]

90. I am sorry - just you just raise your voice?

I find that interesting that you rail against people expressing frustration and then you say "fuck anyone"....

Fuck does not offend me - I use it often and with gay abandon.

Perhaps you should re-read your post and consider editing.

[bettyellen]

91. Saying fuck or asshole has nothing to do with sexist slurs....

And yeah, I also take issue with them disrupting the process. If they really felt anything shady was going on there should have been coordinated efforts to document it instead of creating chaos and spreading false rumours.
Sexist slurs don't bother you? Women were trying to work and attacked for it in the worst way.

[Silver_Witch]

96. What sexist slurs?

Please stop blowing this out of proportion. Please. I am asking you to please get a grip.

[bettyellen]

102. I'm not the one who brought it up.... And I'm not going to argue with anyone willing to downplay the

Slurs being slung toward women by some of those jerks. Not doing it.

[Silver_Witch]

103. You are the one who responded!

There is no argument going on here. I simply asked you to lead me to the slurs - you don't have to repeat them. I have found so many Clinton supporters refuse to provide evidence of the statements they make. Although I have happily provided proof of the posts I reply to.

It is okay - I totally get it.

[pangaia]

9. Diane, sweetie, you are making a fool of yourself

The emperor's clothes are off.

[grasswire]

19. "sweetie"

::shudder::

:-O

[pangaia]

57. I am 72. Should I not have said that?

[grasswire]

63. I'm tweaking her, not you.

Just can't see anything sweet about her.

[pangaia]

74. Thanks.... senior moments to rememmmmmmber..

[ProgressiveEconomist]

12. Sore loser Sanders

built a following out of "independents", many of whom NEVER would vote for any of the real Democrats who inevitably would have defeated Sanders.

So what would you expect to eventuate from a big Sanders Sore Loser Jamboree in Philadelphia? Party unity?

No, expect the same outcome from Philadelphia 2016 as from Chicago 1968, this time designed to help ensure Trump control over the WH, Congress, and the USSC.

[senz]

14. Pfft. Get some education before commenting.

Please try not to insult the forum.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

18. Project much?

[senz]

21. Only when feeling sympathy.

Little boy insult-hurling elicits nothing but contempt.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

23. Project much?

[senz]

38. That's it, young man.

YOU are going on ignore.

[That Guy 888]

26. Yawn

Clinton is ensuring a trump victory.

[senz]

34. Well, they are good friends.

Maybe he'll let her be Secretary of State.

[That Guy 888]

42. As long as she gets to bomb someone she would be happy.

Putin, Central/South America or the Middle-East. Whatever it takes to keep the admiration of Kissinger.

[Blue Meany]

36. Well, if you are right that Sanders' supporters

are independents, it gives lie to the notion that the independents are "centrists" who are situated between democrats (on the "left" and republicans (on the right). Instead, many of them are to the left of the Democratic Party and have no party because the Democrats have moved to the right.

[yourout]

45. Amen....there is no party of consequence for the Left.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

49. You may be right. In any

case, it seems clear that many Sanders supporters have no intention of uniting behind the first-ballot nominee, and that this outcome was entirely predictable. Sanders ran directly against the party"establishment", with no thought to how he ever could turn off the party destruction he initiated. A political party is a team, while Sanders is an egotist who seems not to care that he and Trump are repeating many of the same lies about HRC. The enemy of his enemy seems to be his friend.

[stillwaiting]

112. You must be a "progressive" that supports "progressive liberalization" of services.

Some progressive.

It is impossible to know where people stand today politically by the labels they give themselves. Purposefully so no doubt. Seed confusion wherever possible no doubt.

[Silver_Witch]

92. This is a meme long dead and overused.

Most Bernie supporters are Democrats who see the truth of how the party is moving more and more to the right and are trying desperately to pull it back to the left.

I would hope that whoever wins the primary would go to Philadelphia and strive to build a united party. The party is wonderful and can be saved and I for one hope that it finds it way back to the left to help those among us who would grow and be strong, contributing members of our Country.

[1StrongBlackMan]

137. One DUer put it this way ...

Bernie made a grievous tactical error in 2015 and continues to this day, he does not speak to Democrats about their issues and he does not try to convince them that his issues are really their issues and his solutions are the best solutions to the issues of Democrats. Instead he decided to pull everybody on the left that's outside the Democratic tent in and is trying to Occupy the party.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2013219

I agree ... and it was not well received by the left that's outside the Democratic tent (for whatever reason) who are is trying to Occupy the Democratic Party.

[pa28]

16. The Democratic establishment could stop pouring gasoline on the fire.

Cutting Sanders supporters out of the convention process, marginalizing them with ad-hominem attacks and pretending half the Democratic base is now little better than a thuggish mob tends to make people angry.

Just a thought they might consider if they really care about party reunification.

[grasswire]

17. we called this here last week.

Campaign tactic for HRC.

Make Bernie look as dangerous as Trump so she can be the "safe" candidate.

Ratfucking.

Expect false flag capers.

[senz]

25. Yes, this filthy campaign tactic has been analyzed here on DU.

Everyone should read it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511986017

[KingFlorez]

24. From what some people are saying online, it should be a concern

There have been a number of people (some on this board) calling for a repeat of 1968.

[senz]

28. Not among the adults.

We'll take care of our own.

[cherokeeprogressive]

39. "some people are saying"

They say that's a typical bullshit cliche.

[KingFlorez]

58. The posts are there

This would not be something I would even bring up had there not been post

[jeff47]

47. Some people are saying that Clinton is a reptilian alien, sent to prepare our planet

for conquest.

Therefore, we need to be very concerned about the reptilian menace.

(Or you could realize that lots of people say all sorts of crap online.)

[LiberalArkie]

124. Not really calling for 1968, but saying it looks like a repeat might be in the works.

The 1968 was not caused by protesters but by the powers that be. Mostly by an over bearing mayor.

[nadinbrzezinski]

139. Some of us foresee a repeat

But we would prefer not. We also are aware who started that. Free hint, not the protesters. And some of the posts on this board have been eerily similar to what actually happened in '68.

There, helped you there

[Nye Bevan]

27. I can't imagine why.

[senz]

33. Oh, y'all planning provocations?

Is that how it works?

May all provocateurs be identified and properly humiliated.

[seabeyond]

32. I was just told NV on the verge of violence and accept or do not participate. By Sanders supporters.

[Waiting For Everyman]

35. What DiFi knows about protests is zip.

Including the 1968 Convention protests.

[truedelphi]

48. You under estimate her. She is probably helping to set the riots up!

And how do we know that she is treacherous and lies like a rug? Well, like it is said: if her lips are moving.

When you hear her her account of the Moscone/Milk shootings, you would think she personally pinned Dan White, the shooter, to the floor, when in actuality, she didn't know it happened til after the fact.

Google these three expressions all together: The Bohemian + newspaper + Diane Feinstein and read what The Bohemian's indie reporter Peter Byrnes (or Peter Burns, I forget) has written about her.

[Henhouse]

40. California Sen. Dianne Feinstein warned that Bernie Sanders'.....

Key word being California....

I love me some Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein.... Remember the Uncle Rhemus story, "Oh Bernie Sander's don't let your angry mob attack poor lil ol' me, a very popular Senator in California, 16 days before the primary..... I'm so scared.."'

[libdem4life]

44. Boxer really, really disappointed me. DiFi one expects it. But Barbara?

[hobbit709]

43. So she's expecting the police to riot again. On whose orders I wonder.

The Whole World Is Watching

[truedelphi]

46. Since the Sixties, infiltrators from Alphabet Agencies are always available to

Help out Neo Cons like Di Feinstein. She loves her some Big Time Surveillance Monies.

She will probably help co-ordinate the riots, since she does have spots on Intelligence Committees.

[AgingAmerican]

50. The Democratic establishment is apoplectic

They are hopeless

[stillwaiting]

51. Oh no! Di Fi has the vapors!

I can not tell you how sad it makes me that the Bernie movement is "worrying" Establishment Democrats. It is truly horrifying to me.

[procon]

52. I expect the Sanders contingent will be looking for any excuse to go ballestic.

After all, they're young and they're angry, and they want what they want, and they want it now, and they want everyone to see them... and damn the consequences!

[hobbit709]

54. What is ballestic, pray tell?

[frylock]

140. Extreme ballet.

[scscholar]

61. This

Looking for excuses like they did in NV.

[TheKentuckian]

72. I remember when the fierce urgency of now was more accepted.

In fact it was inspirational eight years ago. Granted...the works were shut down and pretended away in short order but those of us blessed and cursed with knowledge beyond the memory hole (which seemingly at most is a five year window) it was thing along with the audacity of hope

I think if "No we can't!" sold worth a shit old St John of the Orange would have made far more hay.

[nadinbrzezinski]

98. Say what you mean...they are thugs

There, I fixed it for you

[procon]

100. No kidding. I never heard that one before.

If you're right, I sure hope there's plenty of security around. Do you suppose Sanders will call for a peaceful proceedings, or is he really going there for a fight like he says?

[nadinbrzezinski]

101. I recommend you read on what happened in 1968

And who started the riot. Free clue, it was not the folks engaging in the protests...

[procon]

111. The viewing audience draws their own conclusions from what they see in videos.

The average voter isn't going to spend any time sussing out some esoteric details from a 50 year old brawl at a political convention... there's another free fact, yeah?

What everyone saw in 68, the incidents they've already seen this year involving Sanders followers, only serves to paint a negative for all Democrats. While some voters may make the distinction that only Sanders side is acting out, the damning optics have tarnished everyone. If Sanders carries out his threat to fight the convention process -- and he seems determined to do so -- his delegates will react accordingly, turning the proceedings into a into a cage match. If the voters see a replay of the 68 riots, Sanders might as well hand keys to the White House over to Trump.

[nadinbrzezinski]

113. So you think it is healthy for the Democratic Party elite to

Encourage a police riot? That is what essentially it is happening

[procon]

115. Only one person has mentioned fighting -- Sanders. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

117. So you are confused what it means to fight on the floor for votes

And actual physical fighting, which DiFi is hinting at, in the streets.

The same happened in '68. Free hint, the police riot outside, encouraged by Democratic Party leaders, helped the strong man on the other side. So you understand encouraging a police riot might give the White House to Trump?

There are these things called history books. I used to think that Republicans did not read them...now I know both don't. I recommend highly you read into it. Because those of us aware of the dynamics will blame the party leadership for even invoking the ghosts of conventions past where their grubby fingers left trails

[procon]

126. You can never undo the optics.

If you ever climb off your horse, notice that the voting majority only knows what they see on TV. They don't care about some picayunish rant, and they don't have the time or the interest in doing background research on snippets of political history. If Sanders people turn the convention into a replay of Nevada, or create big out of control protest scenes, they will drag everyone down with them.

Maybe that's the whole point. Since Sanders can't get win the brass ring, if they get their self serving protests on live broadcasts, the angry visuals will turn off enough voters to make sure the Democrats -- that would be Hillary -- can't recover. If they usher in a wave of Republicans, at least Hillary loses too. What a great idea!

[nadinbrzezinski]

129. And who created the optics?

The party.

[procon]

136. At the risk of sinking deeper into this impenetrable mire...

Does the TV viewing audience, the voters, who are watching a brawl care about who started it... they're watching a bunch of Democrats going crazy on live TV. The media blowback, then as now, hurts all Democrats. I hope cooler heads prevail and we don't have a reenactment of another mob scene at a Democratic convention.

[nadinbrzezinski]

138. Who is stoking those fears?

Last time I checked, Dianne Feinstein is not a Sanders ally. Maybe I have misread that...it is possible.

You guys go right ahead.

[procon]

142. Again, its those damnable optics you want to ignore.

No one needs to stoke fears, the visual images are more than enough to make people wary of a repeat.

[nadinbrzezinski]

143. Which makes me wonder why a US Senatot

Is stoking those fears? Amirite?

[procon]

144. Your "stoking" is a more reasonable person's justified concern. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

145. My goodness, so we are going to have some people booing

and you are afraid of that? New to the process? I gave you the questions to ask. You refuse, that's ok. I know who I will blame for the upcoming riots, and it will be the DNC, not the Sanders campaign. PAST IS PROLOGUE.

Oh and as to the visuals, some of us intend to write about this and point out how manipulated the major media can be, Remember those mushroom clouds over American Cities. I am sure you were ducking and covering at that point.

But when a SITTING US SENATOR goes there, coincidences are for damn idiots.

[procon]

146. Yes, "new" that's me, and you can call me a "damn idiot" too, but I still disagree with you.

In some alternate reality maybe you are entitled to demand answers, but not here. Don't get all riled up because you can't get the reaction you want. I see how you work it.

Here's the thing, you're intent on trying to blame everyone else, and you can pretend yelling and screaming crowds aren't intimidating, or death threats really don't count unless there is an actual death... I get all that. Its misleading and deceptive, but that's fine too, lots of people have to do that to support their confirmational biases. I can't afford those blinders, so I'll just keep repeating my concerns about Sanders as he seems to be increasingly angry and bitter these days. Now, the question still remains in my mind -- and I make no demands to you should reply -- will he be crazy enough to retaliate for his defeat, or exploit his followers keen loyalty, and try to take the whole party down with him?

[nadinbrzezinski]

147. If you cannot see how this is not a coincidence

And I have been at places where crowds can be scary. A POLITICAL CONVENTION is not particularly it. Now this coming FRIDAY, I invite you to join me in covering a TRUMP RALLY. Now that one has potential. Again, past is prologue, why do you think we will be carrying gas masks, helmets, police scanners, and first aid kits on top of the usual photo gear?

At this point I have concluded that most of you are either new to the process or very naive.

[procon]

149. Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is young and naive... don't I wish!

I actually would be tickled to join you, but luckily for both of us, my health precludes any more adventures. I actually worked as a reporter in Texas during the late 60s, and later for a local newspaper in LA. Now those were some hair raising days, I can tell you. We didn't have anything for protection, unless you'd count my pocketbook, worse, women were still required to wear a skirt and heels whilst dashing hither and yon. It was the Mad Men era for real.

Be safe!

[nadinbrzezinski]

150. You can be 90 for all I care and still be very, very naive

[procon]

151. Well that's not very pleasant.

You don't like getting poked back, do ya? Even though I'm all old and naive -- LOL! -- there's no mistaking me for a thin skinned bully. Say, you've probably known lots of people like that, yeah? C'mon, your turn, say something scary brilliant again...

[nadinbrzezinski]

152. Yuo can do what you want

but I told you the facts, I am troubled BY A FUCKING SITTING UNITED STATES SENATOR saying what she said, setting the stage for actual fucking riots. They did the same in 1968... it will be one of many reasons why TRUMP WILL FUCKING WIN. and you guys will be held accountable by historians for this shit.

[procon]

153. Thanks for your kind permission.

So, you're down to throwing f-bombs now, huh?

Hey, did you see where Sanders just warned everyone that the Democratic National Convention could be "messy"? See, O thou misbeliever, what have I been telling you? He's gonna bern the whole joint down because he wants everyone to understand that, "democracy is not always nice and quiet and gentle."

He's crazy!

[nadinbrzezinski]

154. Whatever dude

I said my piece about YOUR CANDIDATE months ago

But now we have a sitting UNITED STATES SENATOR inciting riots.

[R B Garr]

107. Exactly. It will all be out of Central Casting. Very predictable and scripted

for the cameras. Auditions probably already started.

[Purveyor]

53. There will be violence at both conventions and you can bank on it. To what degree, unknown...nt

[HereSince1628]

59. Memory is a funny thing I don't remember the SDS backing McCarthy so much as being anti-war

[senz]

62. Yes. It was a time of mass protests and revolutionary groups

SDS, Weather Underground, etc. But I don't recall the candidates themselves being a cause.

This is a very different time.

[closeupready]

64. If there's honor among thieves, then what else could she say?

She kind of has to. But I have ZERO respect for her.

[jfern]

66. People should be rioting that California has such terrible Senators

[shanti]

70. if difi doesn't retire first

then she should be primaried, full stop. she's already in her 80's, a dinosaur ready for the boneyard. her time is done.

[nadinbrzezinski]

99. Boxer is retiring this year

None is sure that DiFi will run in two years

[shanti]

128. I know about boxer retiring (yay)

They've both been in office far too long, imo.

[nadinbrzezinski]

130. She was great during Katrina

And has been pretty good. So way to ruin a legacy with the base

[shanti]

132. I voted for her in every election.

Why she had to fall on her sword like that and ruin her legacy is what is so disconcerting. the mask was dropped, and what appeared wasn't pretty

[nadinbrzezinski]

135. The mask is a real fight for control

Of the Democratic Party. We go through these battles at least once a generation

[Aerows]

68. If even a quarter of the Democrats in this nation

are as peeved as I am at the handling of our primary, hell will not hold us.

I am completely disgusted with our party today.

I *DARE* a person to tell me that my vote does not matter. The lucid, rational segment of the Democratic party isn't throwing chairs, they are throwing some goddamned reality in the faces of people that think they can be paid off with no strings attached.

Stupidity is not the wheelhouse of the Democratic party, and I don't know why anybody is shocked that a good-sized portion of Democrats aren't stupid enough to vote for Hillary Clinton.

It's pull my finger territory.

[MrMickeysMom]

76. This is extremely suspect, and Feinstein should perhaps ask her husband's advice...

After all, the war in Iraq's industry MUST have made him an expert on what kind of artillery to arm the goon squad against the "insurgents" wanting to have fair elections.

These establishment corporatists must be shitting their pants. What a way to react to a candidate that all the corporatists money and all the corporatists' men, COULDN'T POSSIBLY put to bed.

Fuck you, Diane and the lobbyists you rode in on.

[bigwillq]

77. Go away Di-Fi (nt)

[itsrobert]

78. "could spark"

Is not the same as "expect".


Nice try with the spin.

[Ed Suspicious]

81. Dramatic.

[Silver_Witch]

83. Feinstein is a fearmonger pure and simple

She is for the patriot act and a myriad of other horrible conservative issues. I wish it was she that was retiring and not Boxer. Alas we are not so lucky.

As for riots....I doubt it.

[underthematrix]

85. POCs should stay home, especially my AA peeps

and my Hispanic brothers and sisters. You will be arrested first and be the first to be accidentally shot on purpose. If other folks think protesting the DEM convention is a revolution, then let them have at it. Although, it's gonna be harder to win with that kind of bullshit. What we should be doing is helping people register to vote. Some people need a ride to the DMV, money for document fees, etc. Instead of donating to any campaign, use your hard earned money to get people registered to vote. We're gonna need every eligible POC voter to vote.

[riderinthestorm]

97. The Chicago police attacked the protesters in 68. So what does DiFi know?

68 was a police action.

Her comments are pretty suspicious imo, especially since we now know for a fact there wasn't a "riot" in NV.

[silvershadow]

105. She got it first hand from Boxer. (Boxer's second hand was flipping the bird).

[highprincipleswork]

106. Diane Feinstein preparing the stage for jackboots. Perhaps her husband can get a contract.

Possibly you can see, while she is one of my Senators, I am distinctly not a fan of the quite Conservative and misleading Diane Feinstein.

[barrow-wight]

108. I share Senator Feinstein's concerns.

And I hope very much that the DNC is completely prepared for it and that the National Guard is at the ready if need be.

[Scootaloo]

109. It worries her more than the impact of voting for war with Iraq did, I'm sure

[Beacool]

114. Philly granted four demonstration permits in support of Sanders at the convention.

If NV is any indication, does anyone really think that these rallies will be peaceful and everybody will be singing kumbaya? Particularly as we all know the outcome, Hillary will be the nominee. I don't expect Sanders to be as gracious as Hillary was in 2008. She released her delegates so that Obama could be nominated by acclamation. Obama's lead in pledged delegates and the popular vote was razor thin. Hillary is far ahead of Sanders on both counts. Yet, Sanders will probably continue to try to make his case on the convention floor. Since he was never a Democrat, I doubt that he cares about the party. Despite proclamations to the contrary, he also doesn't seem to care that he's indirectly helping Trump.

[nadinbrzezinski]

118. So you are ok with a police riot?

That is exactly what happened in 68. And Nevada was heated politics...my goodness...people booed and stamped feet and closed their fists! My goodness. You all sound like complete neophytes with politics. By tje way, what is your opinion of a United States Senator escalating and flipping the bird and telling people fuck you?

My take is really heated politics, alas I am not new to this and have been at city council meetings that actually got hotter than this.

[Beacool]

119. What I would be OK with is Sanders finally admitting that he won't be the nominee

and acting with some class and actual leadership by bowing out with a modicum of grace. Instead of his constant complaints that the Democrats' nominating process is rigged. It's the same process that nominated Obama.

BTW, I have no trouble with Sanders staying until the last vote has been cast, but instead of continuing to attack Hillary and the party, he should pivot to attacking Trump.

[nadinbrzezinski]

120. And depressing the vote in California

My local minimum wage workers thank you in advance. It is also still a race. Until one of the two concedes it is one. The forcing him to drop is kind of hilarious to me, especially given 2008. One of the two invoked tje death of Bobbie Kennedy to keep running...it was not Sanders.

Now I will enjoy you guys in the summer going absolutely crazy. If you think Sanders is tough, don't pay attention to any of until the day after the Nov election

[Beacool]

121. He is not going to be the nominee.

Even if every person in CA voted. No one expects him to drop out before June 7. What people expect him to do is stop attacking the Democratic party and the presumptive nominee. It's not helpful.

I won't be going crazy. I trust that a sufficient number of people would have enough common sense to realize what a disaster Trump would be as president.

[nadinbrzezinski]

122. Yup, political neophyte

Next time you go on about gotv I will safely ignore you

By the way, you ok with a US senator flipping the bird and going fuck you? I get it, but it still was rather...what is the word? Unprofessional. And I guarantee she is not a neophyte

[Beacool]

123. You can save your condescension for someone else.

My undergrad degree was in Political Science and I have worked and volunteered in plenty of campaigns.

Ciao.........

[nadinbrzezinski]

131. Then don't act like a neophyte

[Katashi_itto]

116. Setting up expectations for riots I see.

[floriduck]

127. Oh Diane, you're such a riot.

[kstewart33]

133. There's no blame game going on here.

Diane simply wants Bernie and supporters to like grownups.

[EndElectoral]

141. There was a real reason there were riots at the 68 convention.

"On August 28, 1968, at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, tens of thousands of Vietnam War protesters battle police in the streets, while the Democratic Party falls apart over an internal disagreement concerning its stance on Vietnam."

Those Vietnam War protesters were determined to end that war, and were not going to allow any hawk to become President. These weren't just disgruntled gangs, but people who had real complaints about the direction the country was going in foreign policy. Nixon even promised a just and honorable end to the war in Vietnam to quell those voices. He even hired Hillary's buddy and favorite Secretary of State Henry Kissinger to help in the process. Didn't turn out very honorable or just, just piled dead lives on more dead lives.


A few Jefferson quotes -

"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical."

"Every generation needs a new revolution."

"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty."

[Blue_Tires]

148. Why else would she expect?

Berniestans on Twitter have been saying for a week that Nevada was just the "dress rehearsal"...

[KingCharlemagne]

155. she is a reprehensible human being, married to a war profiteer spouse. Fuck her! - nt