2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhen was the last time a presidential candidate that promised tax hikes
On everyone won?
You think in General Election debates when the moderators grill bernie and demand specifics from him that the blue collar workers won't be turned off at the prospect of having their taxes increased dramatically?
Naderites and greens love to say that nothing unites the GOP like Hillary
But you don't think they'll unite to vote against a socialist that says breadlines are a good thing?
It's fucking amazing how naive some people are
They actually think a socialist has a chance to win a general election in the United states when that socialist can't even get out of the Democratic primary
Hillary is the only person that can unite the Democratic party she will have Obama and Clinton campaigning for her, she will have the Obama coalition voting for her and 70% of Sanders supporters say they will support her.
I guess you could say that this message is aimed at the fringe left that has been poisoned by the GOP and right wing propaganda and have drunk the kool aid
Get real folks a Socialist is not winning a general election in the United States
pinebox
(5,761 posts)The Red Army isn't coming and Stalin isn't being resurrected.
Canada isn't part of the Warsaw Pact and Denmark isn't close to Stalingrad.
You say tax hikes but in reality, most people would save money. Why is that such a bad idea? You've bought the Hillary marketing that Sanders wants tax hikes, when in reality it's nothing short of shifting cost away. Look at what people pay for health insurance as example. Millions saw their rates skyrocket under the ACA which is now in serious trouble as insurers like United Health care exit the market. Would you rather keep paying those rates which will go up every year or would you rather pay what the rest of the civilized world pays, almost nada.
So please, do us a favor and stop screaming socialism. It's obvious you don't know what it means and until you can point out where Bernie is calling for that means of production should be owned by a community atmosphere, quit it.
In the meantime, study the article below and realize Social Democrats are NOT Socialists.
http://www.theglobalist.com/bernie-sanders-socialist-politics-elections/
brooklynite
(94,547 posts)So, Bernie Sanders wants to seize private property and businesses? Because that's what Donald Trump will be saying.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)or are you working for someone who has a great interest in the way things are?
Alex4Martinez
(2,193 posts)It is a Libertarian idea to tax less (and provide less) but we've lost services and been paying more taxes while the 1% pay less.
Correcting that will mean higher taxes for some, but not for all.
It will take courage like Sanders has to be honest, and the people will flock to him.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)that will be more than offset by savings on medical insurance.
Tell the truth, it is the wealthy who are worried about taxes.
Secondly he is a DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST who has to deal with a congress full of democrats and republicans.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)BootinUp
(47,144 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)1993 economic plan
BootinUp
(47,144 posts)BILL CLINTON OFFERS AN ECONOMIC PLAN TO COMPETE AND PROSPER IN THE WORLD ECONOMY
Bill Clinton will cut taxes for the middle class and make the rich pay their fair share.
Bill Clinton will encourage and maintain commitment to better education at every level.
Bill Clinton will make sure American workers can get training and retraining throughout their careers -- so that America can achieve a high-skill, high wage economy.
Bill Clinton will fight for tough, effective trade laws and encourage investment in research and development for emerging technologies.
Bill Clinton will make certain there are more FHA loans so middle-income families can buy homes.
Bill Clinton will speed up building and repair of our roads and bridges.