Right here on DU. Bernie is a crusty old "jew". The message was hidden but the poster is still alive

[Luminous Animal]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by uppityperson (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

Many try to equate Obama and Sander's elect ability. Sorry Obama was young and charismatic. Sander's is an old crusty "jew'. If most of the Sanders supporters don't understand how he would play out there then I think you are missing America's underlying feelings about northeasterners and how they view "jews".
Hilary is still from Chicago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1059701

[Luminous Animal]

1. Off to post on FB and Twitter. Bad form DU to allow a blatant anti-semite amnesty.

[NWCorona]

2. Not the first time that sentiment has been expressed here unfortunately

[Luminous Animal]

4. Nope. And I have a collection of bigoted Hillary supporters here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512029508

[Silver_Witch]

48. Oh Luminous Animal - I should not have followed that link.

Sorry I am off to cry myself to sleep.....

To think they can forget so easily that would the past has wrought.

[Luminous Animal]

51. I cried too. Hugs and more hugs,

[AgingAmerican]

3. That poster has a thread going right now

Stating that people who believe the government should actually help people are lazy whiners

Floors me the right wing crap Hillary supporters post here.

[Luminous Animal]

14. Yep. Which, thanks to another DUer led me to her/his post. I cannot believe that a flat out

anti-semite is still allowed to post on DU.

[m-lekktor]

15. yep, one of his apologists and fellow Hillary supporter told me to shut up in that thread.

and went on to say that poster can't be a right winger because he is asian!

and then went on a rant about Bernie and his cult folowers.

[AgingAmerican]

16. That poster is several different races, according to himself

And is also from Harlem AND from the Deep south.

That wacky world of Hillary support.

[Silver_Witch]

49. And then other Hillary supports ask...

on that thread why we say he is espousing Right Wing lines. They are showing their true selves.

I really believe that Hillary is an 80's republican...I really do.

[FuzzyRabbit]

77. Probably a right wing troll posing as a Democrat.

I suspect that this goes on a lot on DU as DU is popular and influential.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/busted-trump-loving-comment-trolls-pose-as-sanders-and-clinton-supporters-to-divide-democrats/

[tabasco]

5. How low DU has sunk, to allow racists/bigots to remain to post more trash.

SAD.

[Kittycat]

26. Where is MIRT these days?

[Ned_Devine]

6. AND, it was a 4-3 decision to hide it. That tells me...

...that the other three jurors were cool with it. Nice

[Luminous Animal]

9. Thanks Ned!

[Ned_Devine]

19. What's wrong with people here?

It wasn't like this when I signed up back in 2004

[Hydra]

22. That was my first thought when I saw it

Should have been 7-0...but somehow we're bullying them with our excessive numbers.

[Ned_Devine]

28. It's time for a big change

I think if this site is going to be overrun with this kind of mania, I may have to move along to someplace else

[closeupready]

71. +1. I am going to try cultivating participation elsewhere -

Reddit, Topix, wherever intelligent people want to talk about current events.

[jillan]

73. I noticed that too. Absolutely pathetic.

[saltpoint]

7. I didn't know about this post and appreciate

the retrieval, Luminous Animal, since (given its content) it's a post that could be by Donald Trump himself.

The references in that passage are kind of low-down, kind of mean-spirited, kind of brutish and brainless and bigoted and bullying all at once. Ugly stuff.

[One Black Sheep]

8. Wow, that is a very bad statement. Sounds like something Archie Bunker might say.

[bjo59]

10. Wow. Well, that's not surprising considering the thread the poster has going right now.

(Expressing another opinion that is very Archie Bunker like as well, by the way - although the poster did try to creatively distract attention from this aspect of the post.)

[riderinthestorm]

11. The anti-semitism has been very ugly. Admins protected some raging anti-semites too long here

One particular DUer, one of Hillary's biggest AA supporters here, was exposed as a raging anti-semite. Was allowed to continue here until two hides in a day mercifully FFR'D her.



It sets up a bad tone, like a bell that's been rung with the lingering echo.

[tabasco]

12. Clinton's paid trolls are infesting this board.

DISGUSTING TRASH.

[AtomicKitten]

13. Wow.

Thanks for the heads-up on this garbage. It's something every DUer should take note of.

[Hoyt]

17. I'm hoping poster didn't mean it like that, but I grew up where most white wingers

ranted about "N________s and J__s." To this day, I don't like saying the word "Jew" because of that hatred from 1950/60s (I have to use several words so I can use Jewish, rather than the shorter version because of those bigots from 50 years ago). For the jerks who might ask, I don't like the N word either because of hatred white wingers mean by it.

Sometimes I feel very sad here. Peace and swent dreams everyone.

[Silver_Witch]

56. Don't be sad Hoyt.

There are still many here that are hoping for change and peace. I sometimes have to go for a few days because it is terrifying to me that the "democratic tent" is now embracing those so full of hate.

Peace and sweet dreams to you as well.

[MisterP]

18. alas, they've told us outright that they dislike Clinton, but can't countenance

some Brooklyn Yid running

religious prejudices come and go--we're starting to get bored with the "Moosulms" and it was gonna be either the Chinese or the Jews

[raging moderate]

20. Many of the Jews I grew up among might proudly claim that title.

Perhaps it may one day share the history of other words such as "yankee" (originally a British term of derision for colonists). I cannot claim to be a Jew, but I do try to be a fellow traveler. And the rest doesn't sound so bad when you are 68. Yeah, crusty and old, right! A tough old bird! And don't you forget it! Maybe you should think about how we got to be that way! Maybe we have seen and heard and done enough to have something to say that is worth hearing.

[underthematrix]

21. This is not about Bernie's faith tradition but

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seriously he doesn't come close to President Obama on any level. The Bernie visual alone is a turnoff.

[underthematrix]

53. Welp. This is the truth.

[underthematrix]

61. Everything Bernie is NOT

Every time I see an image of Bernie I just shake my head in disbelief.

[Bluenorthwest]

23. And that poster has much, much support and no castigation from the poster's fellow

Hillary supporters as well as the protection of the admins. It is becoming morally difficult to take part in this community as this is an ongoing and seemingly intentional thing here. If the same things were said about other minority groups none of those persons would be here. That's a fact.

[senseandsensibility]

27. I agree, sadly.

What is going on here? There really is no logical explanation except favoritism.

[Bluenorthwest]

37. I think it's pretty obvious.

Useful monsters.

[Luminous Animal]

29. Yep.

[Duckhunter935]

43. So true

This place has gone so far downhill and the obvious support of the admins with the amnesty for Hillary supporters and the funny timing of long dormant accounts now posting in support of Hillary.

[riderinthestorm]

57. Bernie gets regularly called every anti-semitic trope from being a con man to fleecing people

Alerts are useless. Its so accepted here now to attack Bernie with anti-semitic shit nobody even notices it anymore.

[Behind the Aegis]

69. Hate to rain on your parade, but...

...the anti-Semitism has been a feature here for a long time. The difference now is some people have some "skin" in the game, sort of, by way of their candidate, Sanders. The most disturbing anti-Semitism I have seen in regards to Sanders is the red-bating. It seems some, including, sadly, a few Jews, are engaging in the age old "Jews aren't loyal to the US". Then, to add insult to injury, he is getting blamed for not being "loyal to Israel" despite his record on Israel, and therefore is a 'bad Jew' or a "self-loathing Jew." But, if I had to be one hundred percent honest about what really disturbs me, it is seeing the number of people "concerned" about anti-Semitism, who have engaged in it many times in the past; it is just the target is different. Many of those people, as well as some hurling anti-Semitic tropes at Sanders do so love telling Jews what is and isn't anti-Semitism, and what being a "real" Jew is all about. Other minorities can rightly and usually with some support, complain about "splainin'" when it comes from a majority person, but if a Jew points this out, well, then we are "playing the Jew card (a double insult)" or "the Holocaust card."

If Sanders gets the nomination, we will see anti-Semitism grow by leaps and bounds, much like we did with the nomination of Obama in regards to racism. If, however, he doesn't get the nomination, much of the anti-Semitism will still fester here, but the number of people willing to call it out will drop significantly, as it will "no longer be their problem".

[riderinthestorm]

70. Agreed 100% BTA. Great observations

It's been pretty discouraging honestly. This primary has permanently damaged my view of more than a few posters here.

[Behind the Aegis]

72. "This primary has permanently damaged my view of more than a few posters here."

You and me both. Sadly, it also has caused some good people to leave (BMUS) who were actually concerned about anti-Semitism and weren't speaking out against it because it was "en vogue" or "quid pro quo". Of course, some of the hardcore haters have also left, so...dat's kewl! Though I will say it is almost comical watching some the traditional anti-Semites having to argue against the same things said to Jews here in the past, but it is now being directed at them. It tickles me in a special place.

[riderinthestorm]

75. BMUS has been put on ice by Skinner. FFR. Isn't that special?

Not too many getting congeniality awards here....

[Hydra]

24. Crazy stuff

But on the upside, I just checked my ignore list, and it's almost empty...they all got tombstoned? Maybe there IS a god!

[seabeyond]

25. It was a good hide. Nt

[Luminous Animal]

33. And yet the anti-semite is still allowed to post here. With recs from Nance Greggs and Steve Leser.

And the Admins. Not surprised. After all, the Admins have routinely allowed misogyny and homophobia.

[riderinthestorm]

64. Not just recs, but a ton of supportive posts on that thread as well nt

[villager]

30. They applaud -- perhaps at this point, even relish -- their anti-Semitism. nt

[passiveporcupine]

31. Yeah, and someone else just called him and OCD creep

didn't even get a hide for it.

[hrmjustin]

32. That should have been a 7-0 hide.

[MrMickeysMom]

34. It doesn't make sense to tolerate this...

Somehow it's given a pass.

Why, Skinner?

[NewImproved Deal]

35. I trust that poster was banned from the site outright.

No less a slur than the N-Word...

[Luminous Animal]

36. Nope. Still posting.

[Bluenorthwest]

42. Posting right now and getting tons of support from the usual quarters.

nt

[Duckhunter935]

44. Nope still allowed by the admins

[alittlelark]

38. Thanx!!! An addition to my long and ignoble 'ignore' list.

[Vote2016]

39. The antisemitism tolerance is shocking

[Duckhunter935]

40. Sickening

[LiberalAndProud]

41. Ist Juden Forboten hier?

There was a time I believed that a black man could never be president. Perhaps some prejudices are more deeply ingrained than others, but I doubt it.

Nevertheless, I find I have little in common with those who I once thought were my political partners.

[Silver_Witch]

47. This poster often posts "flame bait"

He seems to be a very angry man. I feel sorry for him. But will no longer engage him.

[m-lekktor]

52. yeah I try to do that as well (no longer engage) but sometimes I slip nt

[Luminous Animal]

54. Thank you for your concern.

[pmorlan1]

66. He also sends disgusting Personal Messages

via DU. He posts really nasty stuff then goes away for awhile. Then he shows up again like he did today. I was surprised to see him again today. I thought he was gone. He should be.

[Ken Burch]

76. You should tell the admins about the pm's.

What he is doing there is probably bannable.

[pmorlan1]

78. Too late

they happened when I first came back to DU. Too late to report now. I did find out after I got 2 pm's from him that someone else got one from him. I don't know if they reported it or not?

[Ken Burch]

80. If it happens again, bust the guy.

It's unacceptable to harass people via private messages.

[PowerToThePeople]

50. There are so many any more.

I think there are more of them here than actual real DUers anymore.

I mostly stay away from this turd bowl now.

[Jim Lane]

58. The obvious defense and the obvious riposte.

The hidden post used the slur in the context of "Sander's {sic}" elect ability {sic}". I assume the poster would say, "I'm not a bigot! I'm just pointing out problems Sanders would have in getting votes." The Clinton people have been even bigger on saying socialist socialist socialist and then denying that they're red-baiting, just talking about how it affects November prospects.

The gaping hole in the argument is that they never apply the same standard to themselves. The most obvious example is the email issue. I don't know how much merit there is to the criticisms of Clinton, but I do think it's reasonable to consider how it will affect November prospects, merit or no. The Clinton supporters, however, generally don't see it that way. In their eyes, anyone who comments on the emails is a Hillary hater or even a Trump humper.

My personal guess is that there are indeed some people who would vote against Sanders because they're anti-Semites. I think it's small, though. Most of the anti-Semites in America are already Republican voters, so that Sanders doesn't lose many votes by virtue of his religion. The number of people who'll vote against Clinton because of the email controversy (even without an indictment) is probably much higher.

[moriah]

59. I find it disgusting, but my hopes for humanity is that the poster was pointing out...

.... that anti-Semitic views exist, not that their existence was a reason not to support Bernie and work to overcome anti-Semitic views.

But I am an eternal optimist.

[amborin]

60. Wow! this cycle has really laid bare people's true core selves

[mindwalker_i]

62. He also said, "Bernie supporters are out of controll"

What, we're not being good little b****** and taking the candidate they're shoving down our throats with a smile? Isn't it a pain when people actually think for themselves!

[grasswire]

65. A poster yesterday said that Bernie supporters...

....are "enemies of good people."

That one was hidden.

[silvershadow]

63. Someone needs to keep a list. nt

[bettyellen]

67. That's disgusting. I alerted on that.

[jillan]

68. Skinner why is this poster allowed to be part of this community?

Absolutely heartbreaking that blatant antisemitism is allowed in this site. Change crusty old Jew to crusty old n----r and I am certain that poster would have been banned.

We're Democrats. I thought we were better than this.

Shame!!!

[SMC22307]

74. I can't believe the site owners have not PPRed that poster.

Guess this site isn't what I thought it was.

[uppityperson]

79. Locking, does not meet GDP SOP.

Statement of Purpose

A forum for general discussion of the Democratic presidential primaries. Disruptive meta-discussion is forbidden.