How do Californians feel about the HRC snub?

[Skink]

I'd be miffed!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. This Californian doesn't give a rip.

Representing the 818.

[Tarc]

2. The sensible ones know that the primary is already wrapped up, and a debate is unnecessary

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. The sensible ones know Bernie's attack only help Donald Trump.

[imagine2015]

20. And will a Hillary attack on Bernie in a debate also help Trump?

[metroins]

36. She doesn't need to attack Bernie

He lost back in March.

All focus will be on Hillary vs Trump.

[MFM008]

53. exactly

No need, unless she picks Sanders as VP( and hes making that difficult by trying to burn the bridge to the democratic party) this really has 2 weeks left to go even though the last primary is June 14 with Washington D.C. pretty predictable one for HRC.
Why discuss things that have been discussed 100 times before.

[highprincipleswork]

56. Cool, all you sensible ones, don't worry about voting one little bit.

[mac56]

62. Yes, absolutely.

Take the day off, sensible ones. Your work here is done.

[SFnomad]

3. I'm not miffed ... there is no upside to Secretary Clinton doing another debate

The Democratic Primary is all but over ... we all know who the nominee will be. Why would Secretary Clinton want to chance a Rick Perry "oops" moment?

[still_one]

5. Are you from California?

[Skink]

9. Lived in SD for awhile also in the Bay Area

Left my heart in San Francisco.

[still_one]

16. Well I live here, and have voted here for more than 30 years, and sorry Hillary is NOT

snubbing California

Other OPs seem far less refined than yours:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512021387

The common thread is most people in California do not view it as such or have a problem with it. The only ones who seem to have an issue with it are those at Fox news, and some Bernie supporters.

Most Californians are well aware of where both candidates stand, and we will see what happens on June 7

[donco]

6. I would think

that the only Californians that are worried is the concern trolls.

[msongs]

7. sanders + fox + trump + republicans vs hillary. smart move HRC . be miffed if you wish nt

[fun n serious]

8. They know it's not about them.

It's about saying enough is enough. NO say on cabinet picks or anything else. DONE

[RandySF]

10. The FOX NEWS ambush?

We don't care.

[anotherproletariat]

72. What Democrat in their right mind would agree to that? nt

[PufPuf23]

11. True to form. eom

[JoePhilly]

12. You are always "miffed".

[Skink]

13. Miffed at you

[JoePhilly]

15. No ... just "miffed".

The perpetually disgruntled are always disgruntled.

It does not matter what the actual situation is.

We've seen this throughout the Obama Presidency.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. He can debate the GOP runner up, Ted Cruz.

[beaglelover]

67. Best response in the entire thread!!!

[AtomicKitten]

17. It reinforces that she cannot be trusted.

[Fumesucker]

18. I'm sure they are fine having the Dem candidate picked by the Southern states

You know, the ones that will never vote for the Democrat in the general.

After all, California is just like the South.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. You seem a little salty.

[ContinentalOp]

25. There are quite a few people of color in CA, like the south. So we have that in common.

If you look at the top 15 whitest states, Sanders won 10 of them, and Clinton only won two (3 haven't voted yet). So that's something! I don't think it's going to help you much in CA though.

[Ash_F]

55. Sanders won the least white state by a landslide.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Here is why it matters that we still have a race

on the 7. Whether people here get it or not, is another story. And I suspect that many of the folks who usually go GOTV don't... DOWN BALLOT INITIATIVES and yes turnout.

For many like me the primary is an afterthought, and I have said this before, it did not start today. PROP I, PROP I, PROP I.

As to her snub... it depends who you ask.

[NV Whino]

22. Same ol', same ol'

Flip flop. Camp Weathervane. I'd just as soon she stay out of CA.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Repping the 818... Love her madly...

[Skink]

45. Yeah HRC stay out of California.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

23. How is this different than most primaries -- seriously???

By the first week of June, every Democratic primary in my lifetime has been settled for all practical purposes. If California wants to change that, they need to do what other intelligent states were doing in '08 before the party higher-ups shot them down -- move up. Vote in January. Beat New Hampshire and Iowa to the punch.

[oldandhappy]

30. April would be good.

I like having a chance to see how candidates do in other states and each one speaks in unstructured situations.

[Brother Buzz]

33. California's 2008 primary was 05 Feb.

The 'higher-ups', our elected state legislators, change the date to consolidate it with the state primaries to save money.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

38. I forgot .CA moved up

I remember Florida moved up, and some other states, and both parties bitched mightily.

[Brother Buzz]

48. California's 12 year experiment with an early primary was a mixed bag

When it got rolled back to the original date, the Democrats were indifferent, and the Republicans dragged their feet a bit until it was pointed out the change was the fiscally responsible thing to do.

[liberal_at_heart]

37. Every vote should count. The fact that states have to compete to see who will go first and have

more of a say is ridiculous. We should have a national voting day where everybody votes on the same day that way every vote counts.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

41. Yes

Just get rid of the whole delegate thing and the caucuses. 50 states and the District and territories vote at once. I advocate by mail.

[liberal_at_heart]

42. Absolutely. I live in WA. We have a great mail in ballot primary which the Democratic

Party has completely ignored. None of the delegates will come from the primary. Our entire electoral system sucks.

[samsingh]

26. people who want to beat Trump are thrilled. Those who want the Democratic party to be destroyed, not

so much

[BootinUp]

40. +1

[oldandhappy]

27. She said we do not matter.

Why be miffed? Not worth the energy. I got bigger fish to fry.

[dana_b]

28. not miffed and not surprised

I'd be happy to see Bernie debate Trump

[LonePirate]

29. How were they snubbed? The lack of a debate? Did they not watch the numerous other debates?

It's not like primary season started a couple of weeks ago and we've yet to see the candidates debate each other.

[LenaBaby61]

31. Not angry at all...

Mailed in my absentee ballot voting for Hillary Clinton in California's primary and feel fine having done so.

[writes3000]

32. I'm a Californian. I'm fine with no more debates. I've seen plenty of them already.

[slipslidingaway]

34. NJ does not matter as well. nt

[Skink]

46. Forgot about you

Flip Christie the Bird sometime.

[slipslidingaway]

47. Thx and will do :) nt

[Silver_Witch]

35. No harm no foul...

She doesn't have time for us - we don't have time or a vote for her. It is really okay - Bernie out stumped her here.

[BootinUp]

39. What snub is that?

[cherokeeprogressive]

43. Wouldn't walk across the street to see her for free...

But I'd gladly pay $27 for a nosebleed seat at a Bernie Sanders rally.

[Hiraeth]

44. suit me just fine if she never darkened my state's door again.

[rufus dog]

49. As a Californian I tend to look at the bigger picture.

Is the snub annoying? Yes, minor though.

My major issue is with California always being last in the process. AND IT IS BY DESIGN!

Those in power want to front load Southern States thus weakening the impact of the more progressive states. Basically a big Fuck You to Californians. So there isn't much I can do, other than change my affiliation from Democrat to refuse to declare. Basically a big Fuck You back at ya to the Democratic Party.

[Califonz]

58. The California primary was in March in 2000 and 2004

Maybe they thought it was bad luck? Gore and Kerry both lost to Bush in the general.

[ucrdem]

50. It wouldn't change anything unless one of them really slipped up. We've already started voting. nt

[LibDemAlways]

51. She's blowing off all but the wealthy

donors at high ticket fundraisers and carefully chosen audiences at smallish events. Hope the rest of the voters remember who blew them off and return the favor on June 7.

[dreamnightwind]

52. Yes I think she was fundraising in Oakland recently

High-rollers all, didn't bother with the little people.

[LibDemAlways]

54. Holmby Hills in LA tonight, at the multi-million dollar home of Bryan Lourde who heads up

CAA -- Creative Artists talent agency. Hollywood heavy hitter. Price of admission was $2700 to get in the door. A photo with Clinton set a donor back 10K.

Compare that with Bernie, who's criss-crossing the state at large rallies and asking for $27.00 from those who can spare it.

The contrast couldn't be more clear.

[yuiyoshida]

57. This Californian...

and YES, I was born in San Francisco, not Japan, Not China... (Not all Asians are immigrants) is not miffed at all about the HRC Snub. I don't like her.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

59. Did she snub California?

I thought she showed up for a gala fundraiser at George Clooney's house.

Where's the snub?

[brooklynite]

60. Do you recall any question at the Brooklyn debate that dealt with Brooklyn?

Neither do I.

A "California Debate" would be no different than the seven other debates they've held and wouldn't cover any new ground.

[Bluenorthwest]

66. Brooklyn is a State with nearly 39 million people? Any questions about NY in that debate?

How about East Coast issues? New York State has 19 million people. But of course it's more important because it thinks it is.
Brooklyn has about 2.5 million people and perhaps an inflated sense of position. Oregon has more people than Brooklyn, Hillary did not even drop in for tea this cycle. She lost by a large margin and I think it would have been narrower had she bothered to do an event or two. But she didn't.

I'm sure Californians feel they don't need a debate, as long as Clooney gets an event all of California feels massively respected.

[FSogol]

61. Is this the 1st time the primary was over before California voted?

[grossproffit]

63. Great, thank you for asking.

[deepestblue]

64. I remember being a blind minion fool to the Clintons' inane games back in the 1990s

I'm glad I grew up and stopped paying attention to the .01%'s propaganda via their paid-for establishment media.

[Lil Missy]

65. she never agreed to debate there. Bernie just wants free publicity. He's out of money.

[taught_me_patience]

68. We've got TVs out here you know and have seen the 10 other damn debates already.

I couldn't give two shits about a "snub"... this thing has been over since she smoked Bernie in Texas.


Oh yeah... Long Beach represent here!

[MadBadger]

69. What percentage of Californians get to watch the debate in person?

And what percentage would watch the debate on TV like everybody else.

[bemildred]

70. I don't watch TV. nt

[anotherproletariat]

71. Love it! It means we already won and don't need to debate. nt