'Show me on the doll where Hillary touched you, Salon dot com'

[onehandle]

First off, I want to say that I’m not mad at the good folks who run Salon.com — I’m just very very very disappointed in them. My history with Salon goes back years to when Table Talk was the place to be for liberals at a time when Drudge ruled our world and blogs (remember them?) seemed to be the future.

Trading quips on TT with like-minded people was responsible for my personal growth from “Internet smartass” to “a somewhat popular blogger” to word scribbler to … “Internet smartass.”

Time really is a flat circle.

Salon had — and still has — many excellent writers who were and are provocative without going off the rails into Slate-pitchy grotesquery. I mean: “Creed is good“? You are dead to me, Slate. Dead. But then someone flipped a switch at Salon with The Rise Of The Bernie and things got….weird.

This isn’t to say that Salon went, “Bernie is just like Jesus – only better.” More like they went: “Hillary is the anti-Christ — only worse.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/show-me-on-the-doll-where-hillary-touched-you-salon-dot-com/

[Scootaloo]

1. Nothing worse than a lack of conformity, is there? n/t

[bettyellen]

6. who called SBS fans sluts? Did you just make that up?

[Betty Karlson]

7. Nope. That slut-shaming came from Gloria Steinem: female support for Bernie was supposedly due to

"wanting to be where the boys are".

[bettyellen]

8. So you lied, no one called them sluts at all. I thought as much.

Wanting to be where boys are is not even remotely the same idea as being a slut- no one called anyone a slut. Also, same with racist. So sick of these lies. You should be ashamed.

[Betty Karlson]

9. It's called paraphrasing - a.k.a. reading between the lines.

Trying to slut-shame women into voting for Clinton, that is what you should condemn.

And camp Weathervane has been pushing the idea that Bernie is only for whites since day one, which implied racism. And that action was just as shameful. Shame on Clinton, shame on DWS, shame on David Brock - and shame on you for trying to excuse it all.

[reddread]

11. English only, please

[Betty Karlson]

13. No-one did that except for Gloria Steinem - she was attempting emotional blackmail on young women.

Shame on her. Shame on the candidate who allowed her to do so.

[bettyellen]

14. She has NEVER equated wanting to be around men with "being a slut." Those are YOUR words.

That is a bizarre leap YOU made. She does NOT slut shame. She would never in a million years say something like that, and you admit knowing she did not.

Stop lying about people. You're embarrassing yourself, DU and your candidate.

[CBHagman]

19. "I find the young women very, very activist and they’re way, way more feminist, you know, than we.."

Ah, who said the above? And does it qualify as "slut-shaming"?

Then there's this:

...[young women are] mad as hell because they’re graduating in debt, and they’re going to earn a million dollars less over their lifetime to pay it back. You know, they’re mad about what’s happening to them.

How about that? Anything offensive there?

Well, guess who said the above. It was Gloria Steinem, at least when she could get a word in edgewise during Bill Maher's mansplain-a-thon.

[url]http://www.hbo.com/real-time-with-bill-maher/episodes/14/376-episode/article/376-transcript.html[/url]

Also, if you say, "Shame on her," where do you stand on her decades-long work for progressive causes? For instance, she supported marriage equality back in 1970 and, Bill Maher's interruptions notwithstanding, was speaking out against FGM and other human rights violations decades ago.

[renate]

2. your title is really funny!

(I should make sure to explain--since on DU these days it's hard to tell--that I genuinely think it's hilarious and I'm not being snarky or sarcastic.)

It's interesting that you get that anti-Hillary vibe from Salon because I get an anti-Bernie one from them. I guess that's a good lesson to me that my perceptions aren't the same thing as reality.

[Juicy_Bellows]

4. On the right side of my buttocks.

It's where I keep my wallet.

[Fumesucker]

5. Actually I've been tempted to use that line about the doll but decided not to be that big an asshole

A decision the author apparently came down on the other side of.

[polly7]

12. Here:

[kdmorris]

15. Jury results

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Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: It is deplorable to use this child's death to win an argument on a message board. The poster has no shame or decency.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I see a soldier carrying a child. vote to "Leave It Alone"
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: This is WAY OTT.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Seriously, what are we now? Barbara Bush... don't want to soil our pretty minds about such things??? Sometimes REALITY is shocking and I refuse to censor such things just because someone doesn't want to see it. It's relevant. Stop with the idiotic alerting.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: it is an image of human suffering, but it is not "for no purpose other than to shock and disgust": Clinton brags about Syria and wants us to go in ten times as hard--in fact, blames all the suffering on us holding back
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[polly7]

16. Wow. Thank you.

Surprised that truth about the human suffering her foreign policy decisions caused bothers so many here.

[EndElectoral]

18. Really surprised someone actually alerted that, and it was so close.

[kdmorris]

20. I'm not at all surprised it was alerted on... I was surprised it was so close though

polly has had a target on her back for a while now.

[Orsino]

17. Cuts both ways.

They are also publishing the work of writers who demand that Sanders drop out.

I don't think there's a unified editorial agenda over there, but they do print a buch of weak shit.