Real reason Sanders is behind in pledged delegates

[lancer78]

The real reason Sanders is behind in pledged delegates is because he only WON 26 total counties in the following states:

Loiusiana

Arkansas

Tennessee

Georgia

Alabama

Mississippi

South Carolina

North Carolina

HRC WON 205 more pledged delegates out of these states because of the Sanders campaign failure to connect with the African American community. The race was not "rigged", he just did not engage the AA vote, which would have been receptive of his populist message.

[metroins]

1. Incompetent campaign strategy

The race was lost early due to poor strategy.

[anotherproletariat]

21. Exactly. It was a badly planned revolution. nt

[firebrand80]

25. In fairness

He probably didn't realize he actually had a chance to win until it was too late to shift from being a "message" candidate.

[Hortensis]

26. There may be something to that.

He may also have misjudged initially how much his limited message would fail to catch fir and then misfire with minorities.

[firebrand80]

32. The only strategy they had was

The "once they get to know him" line. That's no a strategy, that's burying your head in the sand.

[Hortensis]

33. Umhm. And before that was the big economic reform

that would life all boats message, which it basically would. But!

[uponit7771]

28. +1, Weaver and Divine admitted not competing in "southern states" & Sanders lost by over 2 mil votes

[GreatGazoo]

35. exit polls in Alabama had Sanders 14 points higher than the machine vote totals

In other countries they call that fraud.

[metroins]

36. Give him Alabama then

He still isn't close to winning.

Give him NV, the Bronx and 4 random states.

It was the incompetent strategy in the beginning that lost Sanders the nomination.

[Skink]

2. News blackout had nothing to do with it.

But HRC can have the confederacy.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Lots of black folk live in the "confederacy"

[JackRiddler]

4. There's really no need for this rhetoric.

News blackout had everything to do with it, of course. And party machinery. But the voters shouldn't be described as the "confederacy," it's just not true.

[Skink]

7. I have trouble with objectively

Not always politically correct.

[msongs]

19. sanders has not been blacked out. he is a victim of his own campaign incompetence nt

[hrmjustin]

5. Your excuses for his loss and condescension towards the voters is noted.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. And a certain group of voters no less.

[Alex4Martinez]

9. You must admit that "Clinton" is a brand, especially in the Southern states.

And you must admit that the brand is a hard thing for a lesser known senator to overcome.

Additionally, as he became more well known he did better and better then he had in early races.

[mythology]

8. As opposed to the bastions of liberalism that Sanders has won

like Wyoming, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Utah and Idaho? I mean if you're going to bash voters from southern states for the confederacy 160 years ago, then you should probably discount Idaho as it is currently home to the aryan nations or Utah where the Mormon church had to be dragged kicking and screaming into allowing black people into the church.

[Garrett78]

11. Yep, it's Sanders who has done better in the 'reddest' parts of the US.

As I've pointed out many times before. In fact, Sanders won the 5 reddest states in the US (going by Romney's margin of victory in 2012).

But it's been clear to me for a long time that reality and DU's majority don't see eye to eye.

[ContinentalOp]

13. Interesting. He also won 10 of the 15 whitest states with Clinton only winning 2 of those.

[Skink]

18. Bernie is not coming for anyone's guns

Unless they are asualt weapons.

[ContinentalOp]

20. True. He owes the NRA for helping elect him to congress.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-nra-helped-put-bernie-sanders-in-congress/2015/07/19/ed1be26c-2bfe-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html

[lancer78]

12. What news blackout?

The Clintons have always had strong AA support. Hell, Hillary was beating Obama with them until the AA voters saw that Obama might just win.

There was a major early campaign failure in the Sanders camp that failed to engage AA voters.

[KingFlorez]

17. Cheap comments like this don't change a thing

The Confederacy comments are old and tired anyway.

[uponit7771]

29. Lots of PoC in the "confederacy" but Sanders camp ignored them and now is whining about it.

[lancer78]

14. What fraud

The only issue I saw was in NY.

[ContinentalOp]

15. True

If the Sanders campaign hadn't engaged in fraud and intimidation tactics in caucus states, Clinton's lead would be even bigger!

[Ed Suspicious]

34. The fuck? Is this opposite day?

[uponit7771]

30. Sanders shouldn't played that role then, that most likely didn't help him with PD's

[zipplewrath]

16. Something that progressives need to consider

As someone who has personally been horrified by the direction the country has taken over the last 30 years, I can say that I realize one thing. A large part of the Bernie Burn contingent, including myself, misunderstood a very fundamental thing. Despite working very hard to pass civil rights legislation, and advocating for a "race neutral" world, a few decades past when we argued we had "won" and those that we felt we had "freed" knew a tad bit better. It's not that we didn't acknowledge that the struggled continued, it's that we under estimated just how bad it was. Suddenly, we saw ourselves being marginalized by the "system" the minorities looked at us and said "yeah, the system is rigged, has been for decades, and you're just coming to the party".

Look, Bernie has been screwed by the Democratic party "system" which is designed to elect the "next" important person. But, it is also true that in the end he got screwed because the minorities than he truly appreciate didn't appreciate him. And a big part of that is that the people of that category saw a bunch of middle class white folk upset that the system no longer favored them. Maybe that's true, maybe not, but the point is that progressives need to consider that there are people that feel we left them "behind". And worse, they feel like we are upset now because we realize we're getting as screwed as they have been their whole lives.

It's not that "we're" wrong, and it's not that there are anything wrong with "progressives" values. It's that we need to understand that change takes way longer than we anticipate, and we need to prepare to "defend" that.

[Number23]

22. Interesting post and perspective

[uponit7771]

31. Like the post till the part where the "system" screwed Sanders. The long shot black guy won in 08...

... with less PD's to choose from than Sanders.

Sanders is whining and stomping his feet cause his campaign ADMITTEDLY ignored the "southern states" where a lot of PoC lived and could've made the votes argument at least.

The same system Obama won with in 08 Sanders lost with in 16... not the "systems" fault at all

[riversedge]

23. Yes. It is just as simple as that.

[Myrina]

24. ... and in general elections those states trend Republican ....

.... so neither of them is going to win them anyway.

So your point is ... what, exactly?

[lancer78]

37. And republicans won't

win New York, Massachusetts, and Illinois. So your point is what exactly?

[uponit7771]

27. +++++++++++++Weaver and Divine admitted not competing in the "southern states" +++++++++