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Is Bernie Really The Problem? (Original Post) Triana May 2016 OP
Yes, the problem is Bernie. JaneyVee May 2016 #1
Maybe you can't find a "shred of evidence" because you're looking in the wrong place. Scuba May 2016 #4
They voted the same way 93% of the time... JaneyVee May 2016 #5
Yep, they agreed on naming post offices. But disagreed on the biggies. Scuba May 2016 #6
Bernie voted for more wars and war funding than any candidate running. JaneyVee May 2016 #7
Bernie spoke and voted against the Iraq War Resolution. Hillary spoke and voted for it. Scuba May 2016 #10
Some of us actually remember 2002: JaneyVee May 2016 #12
Really? Now you're defending our invasion of the wrong country? Scuba May 2016 #14
Hillary didnt vote to invade Iraq, she voted for a diplomatic solution. JaneyVee May 2016 #15
No, she voted to give Bush the go-ahead to invade, which every think person knew he would. Scuba May 2016 #17
Um, did Bernie vote for HJ Res 64? Why yes he did. JaneyVee May 2016 #18
Yes, after Hillary helped start the war, Bernie voted to arm and feed our troops. Scuba May 2016 #20
I'm bookmarking your link. Says it all. randome May 2016 #16
Hillary went negative on LGBT activists whle promoting Ronald Reagan, Republican hero: Bluenorthwest May 2016 #9
Um, she misspoke and apologized. Its called personal responsibility. JaneyVee May 2016 #11
Misspoke? SheilaT May 2016 #13
Didn't everybody get the memo? Hillary's record - a lot of it on display, in her own words, djean111 May 2016 #2
Someone should rewrite "The Republic" firebrand80 May 2016 #3
No. LWolf May 2016 #8
This graphic represents the saddest part of this primary... TCJ70 May 2016 #19
Yes, he is Progressive dog May 2016 #21
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
1. Yes, the problem is Bernie.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:59 AM
May 2016

When your campaign goes negative on planned parenthood, NARAL, Civil Rights icons, Dem allies, and insinuates corruption and artful smears without a shred of evidence, Bernie is very much the problem.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
5. They voted the same way 93% of the time...
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:07 AM
May 2016

And some of that 7% she voted to the left of Bernie i.e. guns, immigration.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
6. Yep, they agreed on naming post offices. But disagreed on the biggies.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:11 AM
May 2016

And there's still lots of "shreds" you can't seem to find.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. Bernie spoke and voted against the Iraq War Resolution. Hillary spoke and voted for it.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:16 AM
May 2016

She parrotted Bush's words, almost verbatim.

So which is it Janey? Is she stupid? Or was she complicit?



Bernie was prescient, predicting the quagmire of Iraq with great accuracy. Hillary got it all wrong.



This single issue outweighs all the post office naming bills in history.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
14. Really? Now you're defending our invasion of the wrong country?
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:23 AM
May 2016

Some of us remember that Iraq had no role in the 9/11 attacks. Jeezus H. Krist, get a clue Janey!

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
15. Hillary didnt vote to invade Iraq, she voted for a diplomatic solution.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:25 AM
May 2016

"My vote is not a vote for any new doctrine of preemption or for unilateralism or for the arrogance of American power or purpose, all of which carry grave dangers for our Nation, the rule of international law, and the peace and security of people throughout the world."

Try harder, bro. Some of us actually remember 2002.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. I'm bookmarking your link. Says it all.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:26 AM
May 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. Hillary went negative on LGBT activists whle promoting Ronald Reagan, Republican hero:
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:14 AM
May 2016

"It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan — in particular Mrs. Reagan — we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too."

What's worse her DU cohort cheered for that, defended it, excused it and continues to parade around DU claiming she never said such horrific, untrue things, biased against LGBT and biased for Republicans Monsters.

It's how she got your votes. And I'm never going to forget that. Ever.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
11. Um, she misspoke and apologized. Its called personal responsibility.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:16 AM
May 2016

Something Bernie Sanders completely lacks.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
13. Misspoke?
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:21 AM
May 2016

Anyone who was over the age of 12 or so and not in a coma the entire time, would remember quite clearly that the Reagans totally ignored the issue of AIDS pretty much his entire Presidency. They did NOT start a national conversation. That's not misspeaking. That's a flat-out lie.

Or, if she actually remembers it that way, it's even scarier, because her grasp on reality is quite shaky.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Didn't everybody get the memo? Hillary's record - a lot of it on display, in her own words,
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

on YOUTUBE, FFS! - is a right wing smear. Who are you gonna believe, - Hillary, or your lying eyes?

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
8. No.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:13 AM
May 2016

Bernie represents the solution.

Neoliberalism is the problem, and the Clintons are a big part of that problem.

Clinton supporters who think her record can be painted over between now and November are delusional.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
19. This graphic represents the saddest part of this primary...
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:35 AM
May 2016

...that a candidates entire record and her own words were declared a RW smear. If you can characterize someone's own words as RW then maybe you should consider that you're voting for a RWer...

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