I was a Hillary hater until I read her e-mails.

[LAS14]

This article is a few months old, but it bears re-publishing now that more and more Sanders supporters are "trying to get excited about Hillary" as one such person put it.

http://bluenationreview.com/i-was-a-hillary-hater-until-i-read-her-emails/

Her tenure as Secretary of State, of course, led to the bogus email scandal, which in turn led to the slow-drip release of the emails on her home server. I decided I was going to read them.

In those emails, I discovered a Hillary Clinton I didn’t even know existed.

I found a woman who cared about employees who lost loved ones. I found a woman who, without exception, took time to write notes of condolence and notes of congratulations, no matter how busy she was. I found a woman who could be a tough negotiator and firm in her expectations, but still had a moment to write a friend with encouragement in tough times. She worried over people she didn’t know, and she worried over those she did.

And everywhere she went, her concern for women and children was clearly the first and foremost thing on her mind.

[virtualobserver]

1. The Brock gazette presents an "anonymous" article.

[procon]

23. Your best argument is that anyone who writes something positive about Hillary is paid.

You create that fiction because can't bring yourself to accept the fact the Hillary is winning because more people like what she has to say and they voted for her. It must stick in your craw that so many women are choosing to invest in Hillary's leadership because she's the best chance we've ever had at achieving parity and equal rights for women.

While you're wrapped up in defending the picturebook image of a perfect candidate who exemplifies your vision of idealistic purity, Democrats have left you in the lurch and have concentrated on supporting the winning Democratic leader. Unlike the angry and bitter Sanders, Hillary has proven her ability to be flexible, open minded and willing to embrace to new ideas. You lot call that "flip-flopping", I believe, but reasonable people appreciate her efforts to transition with critical cultural changes and not stay locked in the same rigid views for 50 years.

[Kentonio]

25. Blue Nation Review is owned by David Brock

Yeah, the slime who smeared Anita Hill and now runs a SuperPAC funded by Hillary's campaign.

[procon]

76. Spare me your conspiracy theories.

These transparent games of 6 degrees of separation and all the various convoluted paranoid plots find closer similarities in rightwing forums than whatever one Democrat might write to compliment a fellow Democrat. Look, you imagine there is some mass collusion involving tens of thousands of news sources that are all out to get Sanders just because they -- oh, the horror! -- published something uncritical about Hillary, or you overreact to a piece of benign, maudlin prose to the point of looking unhinged and delusional.

You have no credible news sources left -- none -- because at some point they have all managed to find some not-so-negative thing to say about Hillary and that makes you lot see yell foul and claim its everything from rank hearsay to proof of treason. You're down to chain emails and bloggers who pass around complimentary odes to Sanders, so go read those safe and lovely stories and congratulate one another for being such free thinkers.

[Armstead]

79. SIX degree of separation? Brock is Brock. That's NO degrees of seperation

And he's the man the Clintons chose as their hatchet man. That's 1 degree of separation.

[Kentonio]

85. Conspiracy theory?

That's genuinely hilarious. The man who runs a SuperPAC which has been heavily funded by Hillarys campaign owns this news site. A site he uses to distribute heavily pro-Clinton 'news' articles. All of this is proven and factual.

[procon]

91. Then don't read it, yeah?

Don't ever read anything you don't like, if it frightens you that much. You're describing Pravda, a safe source that matches your views where you can read all those juicy Hillary-did-something stories, you know, like the stuff that litters all the rightwing websites. Look, there are progressives, and then there are progressives who aren't so delicate that they feel threatened by mere words or intimidated by people they they disagree with... and the latter is definitely not you.

[Kentonio]

92. Intimidated? That's funny. If you want to lap up propaganda go right ahead.

[procon]

93. I'm not the one stuck in safe mode, yeah?

A commonly shared trait amongst any type of fundamentalists is their insistence that anyone who’s not 100% onboard with their views must be part of some coordinated, mass conspiracy to silence and suppress them. You can watch it being repeated in almost every thread in this section when anyone even casually mentions Hillary without also genuflecting to Sanders -- PBUH -- there is this immediate pile on by wave after wave of accusations that everyone is has been bought off and its all rigged. That's you there.

Your so called movement is withering away, hollowed out from the inside and replaced with nutty conspiracies and fears of being criticised for dancing around Sanders one-plank platform.

[Kentonio]

98. You're ridiculous. I've laid out in clear factual detail why this nonsense was pure propaganda.

Yet you want to pretend other people are the ones being naive and delusional. Ok then, you keep telling yourself that.

[LonePirate]

83. Hillary hatred is so strong in some people they cannot process someone saying nice things about her

They grasp onto anything they can to disprove or discredit that person or that person's words so that their world view is restored to its proper order in their mind.

[GreatGazoo]

41. catapult + propaganda

[pmorlan1]

60. Maybe it's from Guccifer

When he hacked her emails he was won over by them. That's why he is now pleading guilty.

[Loudestlib]

73. Maybe they missed this one?

In the email, Pagliano wishes Clinton a "Happy Birthday" and "many more!" Rather than responding to Pagliano, however, Clinton forwarded the email to then-Special Assistant to the Secretary of State, Robert Russo, with a curt "Pls. respond."

[Yurovsky]

2. Yay! She cares about people her policies KILL...

How refreshing...

[randome]

8. Do you think Sanders would care about those killed by drones?

EVERY President is confronted with this possibility. Bully for you for being the 'expert' on all things.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[Yurovsky]

10. I think he would try NOT KILLING THEM...

War is not the answer...

[randome]

14. He's already said he would continue using drone warfare.

What many fail to understand is that it is always a tough decision on whether or not to deploy force. (Unless your name is Bush, Jr.) Boots on the ground would mean a lot more civilians would die.

Drones...not so much. A commander-in-chief has to weigh the numbers. Sanders did.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[TwilightZone]

18. He noted that he'd continue the drone program.

He said that he hoped that he'd have better aim.

[MariaThinks]

37. words are easy. Try actually thinking about what to do when people are planning on

attacking innocent civilians.

[puffy socks]

82. Sanders sure has voted for a lot of war. nt

[Yurovsky]

87. Spreading a lie doesn't alter the truth.*

Nm

[puffy socks]

89. Lying by omission

doesn't change the facts.

[polly7]

3. Women and children in Iraq, Libya, Honduras, Haiti, Syria??? BULLSHIT. nt.

[MariaThinks]

38. what would you have done?

[polly7]

46. About what???

Those countries were not at war with anyone, women had rights ...... children could play hours a day outside without being droned. I'm not a supporter of PNAC, wouldn't have pushed for the atrocity in Iraq, enriching the MIC and weapons makers, haven't got a Foundation taking millions to allow weapons for Saudi-Arabia and Qatar to cluster bomb small Yemeni children with, don't use a private server and a blacklisted civilian with which to create lies to take to the UN to destroy yet one more sovereign nation (7 countries in 5 years!) for empire and greed.

I wouldn't have cut wages in half for starving Haitians, or supported a coup in Honduras, or proposed another 'no-fly-zone' in Syria exactly like the one lied for to destroy Libya, create a vacuum for which IS and Boko Haram to fill to kidnap, rape and burn people alive wherever they chose, or caused the horrendous migrant crisis leaving tens of thousands dying at sea and millions suffering in refugee camps with women and children being raped, tortured and literally in some cases, being purposefully starved to death.

I'd have left them the fuck alone.

[MariaThinks]

47. what's your proof for this statement:

don't use a private server and a blacklisted civilian with which to create lies to take to the UN to destroy yet one more sovereign nation (7 countries in 5 years!) for empire and greed

[polly7]

49. It's been posted over and over and over. You should read a bit. nt.

[MariaThinks]

51. nonanswer

[polly7]

52. lmfao. nt.

[vintx]

64. That user name is so ironic.

Especially given the exchange between you two just now.

[polly7]

67. I'm still scratching my head over such a strange question.

Everything she did was a 'choice'. These countries did not invite the economic and military terrorism that has ruined them. The reasons weren't altruistic, humanitarian or for any other reason but to further enrich the vulture corporations, banks and individuals, MIC and weapons makers that all profited hugely once mission accomplished, to establish more western dominance and to ensure independence didn't allow them to control their own resources.

I really wonder why some choose not to read at all.

[vintx]

72. I figure it's to avoid any further cognitive dissonance. nt

[JudyM]

4. It doesn't matter that she compromised national security and violated multiple rules about public

records transparency in order to protect herself and her corrupt foundation from scrutiny, as long as she wrote nice notes to people.

[brush]

5. Bet you're a Snowden supporter.

[Fuddnik]

26. Everybody should be.

Had he exposed these programs under a Bush presidency, he would be hailed around here as a national hero. Since it happened on Obama's watch, he becomes a traitor.

Snowden should be the next National Security Advisor.

[brush]

36. The reason I asked if you were a Snowden supporter is because . . .

you charged that Clinton compromised national security yet Snowden did exactly that when he revealed details of his own country's international covert operations.

Talk about compromising national security, that's it in a nutshell.

Now to be clear, I support Snowden's revelations on NSA domestic spying. He should be commended for that, but he should have stopped there.

Giving up details of our international covert operations is akin to sedition.

How do you rationalize being against Clinton but for Snowden?

Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

[mikehiggins]

59. If there is no enemy, there is no sedition.

If anyone reveals anything that goes against the official story that is not sedition.

Pentagon Papers?

My Lai?

Abu Grave (spelling?)

All of these revealed the lies motivating US policies. Are all those involved traitors?

If I know the US is doing illegal and illicit things regarding our "allies" am I a traitor for publicizing them or is it okay to turn a blind eye to such abuses?

That is not patriotism, that is moral bankruptcy.

[brush]

81. OK, by your logic, the US should give up international intelligence . . .

and of course all other nations will too.

Naivete to the umpteenth degree. Just silly.

[brush]

95. Google Jonathan Pollard.

Naivete is not the best quality for a progressive.

[MariaThinks]

39. She did no such thing.

[JudyM]

40. .

[AgerolanAmerican]

6. And that Don Corleone really loved his wife

what a sweet guy

[jzodda]

31. Disgusting

Comparing Clinton to a fictional criminal mob boss?

Great Just great

[LAS14]

9. What does RWNJ mean?

[1monster]

12. Right Wing Nut Job. Isn't it interesting that those who are calling

others RWNJ are more likely to score to right on the scale than the people they are calling RWNJ?

[Dem2]

19. yes indeed

To the left of the Dalai Lama and more left than most of the so-called "progressives" here.

But enjoy your little fantasy world in which destroying the lives of my family is cool cuz "purity".

[1monster]

74. Whatever. Welcome to Ignore.

I don't go 'round calling people RWNJ.

[Dem2]

84. Guilty conscience I guess?

I didn't call anybody that, it was just a general statement - funny that.

[Logical]

97. Not permitted? Proof of that or you are flat out making shit up! Nt

[jeff47]

11. Now if only she had that concern for Iraqi, Libyan, Syrian and Honduran women and children. (nt)

[polly7]

13. And all those in Haiti for which she fought to have minimum wage

cut in half in an already desperately impoverished country.

http://news.groopspeak.com/hillarys-state-department-pressured-haiti-not-to-raise-minimum-wage-to-61-an-hour/

[jeff47]

15. Yeah...I ran out of space in the subject line before I could include all of those she hurt. (nt)

[polly7]

16. ....

I've had that happen too. Frustrating.

[Aerows]

63. Not to mention supporting the bill in Puerto Rico

that would lower their minimum wage $3 to 4.25/hr. That was two days ago.

[vintx]

65. Anyone who's surprised by that isn't paying attention.

And Bernie stands in sharp contrast.

[Segami]

17. BLUENATIONREVIEW = DAVID 'Smear-weasel' BROCK

continue.....

[AtomicKitten]

55. +1

[Octafish]

20. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Here's what the emails showed to me:

Hillary Clinton’s State Department Emails, Mexico’s Energy Privatization and the Revolving Door

By Steve Horn
DeSmogBlog/TruthDig, Aug 13, 2015

Emails released on July 31 by the U.S. State Department reveal more about the origins of energy reform efforts in Mexico. The State Department released them as part of the once-a-month rolling release schedule for emails generated by former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, now a Democratic presidential candidate.

Originally stored on a private server, with Clinton and her closest advisors using the server and private accounts, the emails confirm Clinton’s State Department helped to break state-owned company Pemex‘s (Petroleos Mexicanos) oil and gas industry monopoly in Mexico, opening up the country to international oil and gas companies. And two of the Coordinators helping to make it happen, both of whom worked for Clinton, now work in the private sector and stand to gain financially from the energy reforms they helped create.

The appearance of the emails also offers a chance to tell the deeper story of the role the Clinton-led State Department and other powerful actors played in opening up Mexico for international business in the oil and gas sphere. That story begins with a trio.

The Trio

David Goldwyn, who was the first International Energy Coordinator named by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2009, sits at the center of the story. As revealed by DeSmog, the State Department redacted the entire job description document for the Coordinator role.

Goldwyn now runs an oil and gas industry consulting firm called Goldwyn Global Strategies, works of counsel as an industry attorney at the law firm Sutherland Asbill & Brennan, and works as a fellow at the industry-funded think tanks Atlantic Council and Brookings Institution.

CONTINUED w/links...

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/hillary_clinton_state_department_emails_mexico_energy_reform_20150813

Money trumps peace. And war is a racket. Nice little country you have here. It'd be a shame if something were to happen to it.

[edgineered]

21. How strange you could find personal emails,

most everyone alive is under the impression that she took the cloth to them.

[scscholar]

42. This. The Republican lie that they were "wiped" is a lie

And the fact that we've read them proves them to be liars. They lied and said they were deleted when it is obvious that is a lie. What kind of person believes a lie like that? When you see something then someone claims it doesn't exist, those people have to be insane. It's like the rising mercury. They see the mercury, but they don't believe the mercury.

[Aerows]

58. "What kind of person believes a lie like that?"

For starters, people that actually understand how email systems work and that you can "delete" your email all day long but all you are doing is removing the pointers within the database not the content.

Those kind of people certainly know how to retrieve email despite amateurish attempts to get rid of them, but then amateurish is the only word that can be used to describe the server in the basement bathroom closet.

[hamsterjill]

22. Yeah, regardless of the facts, we should all hate her, right!

Sarcasm, of course! Go, Hillary!

I'm SO sick of the efforts to destroy this woman. These efforts have been ongoing for decades now, and she's still standing. That's why she gets my vote!

[Beacool]

24. This is the woman I know and admire.

"I found a woman who cared about employees who lost loved ones. I found a woman who, without exception, took time to write notes of condolence and notes of congratulations, no matter how busy she was. I found a woman who could be a tough negotiator and firm in her expectations, but still had a moment to write a friend with encouragement in tough times. She worried over people she didn’t know, and she worried over those she did."

.......

"The Hillary caricature you see in the press is not the Hillary Clinton I came to know by reading those emails."

That's how I have always felt. Hillary is a great person, she's not the caricature portrayed by the media and her enemies.

[frylock]

27. Dear Penthouse Forum...

[Vattel]

28. bluenationreview, lol

[cali]

29. Fail. And a slightly belated welcome to DU.

Member since: Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:20 PM
Number of posts: 1,086
Number of posts, last 90 days: 949
Favorite forum: General Discussion: Primaries, 401 posts in the last 90 days (42% of total posts)
Favorite group: Hillary Clinton, 454 posts in the last 90 days (48% of total posts)

[Katashi_itto]

30. NOW ON LIFETIME TV "I was a Hillary Hater"

See the tender side of a woman, who between destabilizing countries and promoting war across the globe; liked to worry over people she didn't know, and was really concerned for women and children too....a lot.

See the heartwarming story this Christmas on Lifetime TV!

[azurnoir]

44. lol good one

[CharlotteVale]

96. Snort!

[MariaThinks]

35. kick

[GreatGazoo]

43. and who wouldn't want their personal "tough times" rehashed in a national FBI investigation?

or used as fodder for Brock's propaganda.

[Vinca]

45. People are not "Hillary haters." They disagree with her policies and past performance.

[Buzz cook]

48. No there are people that hat Hillary Clinton

more than they like Bernie Sanders.

It goes way back to the 90s.

[lagomorph777]

50. I was OK with Hillary until she made her classified emails available to our enemies.

[LAS14]

54. ????? What's your source? NO e-mails were classified when she sent them.

[lagomorph777]

56. After she stripped off the classified headers.

Sorry, that's a crime in itself - it demonstrates intent.

[LAS14]

62. Source??????

[lagomorph777]

66. Sure, happy to oblige

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/01/08/boom-in-newlyreleased-email-hillary-orders-aide-to-strip-classified-marking-n2101680

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/08/13/hillary-insider-stripped-top-secret-markings-from-emails-state-dept-source-tells-fox-236871

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/08/bombshell-email-shows-hillary-instructed-adviser-to-strip-markings-from-sensitive-talking-points/

[auntpurl]

68. If this were true it would be headline news

and you'd have a legitimate source.

[LAS14]

69. How about some main stream sources?

Or are you one of those that rejects anything said by vetted professionals?

[lagomorph777]

70. I guess we'll have to wait for the FBI report

I just hope they get it done soon, and we can all stop worrying about it. Or start.

[LAS14]

75. How do you know what's in the FBI report?

[lagomorph777]

77. Please read my post. You seem to have missed part of it.

[pnwmom]

94. None of the emails on her private server contained information that was then classified.

And if you are concerned about that, you should be outraged about the .gov servers that allowed hundreds of thousands of non-classified emails to be hacked by the Chinese and Russians.

[beachbumbob]

53. Omg...some actually read some of.treasonous emails that has betrayed

America..OMG..don't let sanders followers know that!!!!!

[vintx]

61. Her concern for women and children? I guess immigrant children don't count? nt

[B Calm]

71. I could say the same nice things about anyone I've ever known.

[Lucinda]

78. They are well worth reading. n/t

[Armstead]

80. I'm sure she can be a very nice person when she wants to be. So....

let her spend her life advancing the interests of women and children in some otehr capacity.

She is too tied into a corrupt and abusive political elite to be a good president. And she may be too polarizing to get elected.

[azurnoir]

86. so apparently actual issues have nothing to do with it? This author supports Hillary

on feelings and emotions? That's just embarrassing

[lumberjack_jeff]

88. "And everywhere she went, her concern for women and children..."

...especially the ones she turned into widows and orphans.

[Skwmom]

90. I know. Hearing Libya referred to as a business deal was so heartwarming.