Bernie Requests Kentucky Recount

[ericson00]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/281057-sanders-requests-recanvass-of-kentucky-primary

Bernie Sanders’s campaign is requesting that Kentucky officials review the state’s Democratic presidential primary votes from last week, according to the Associated Press.

Kentucky results currently show that Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton beat Sanders by by half of a percentage point.

Are you kidding me?

[ericson00]

1. Sore Loser Sanders is the name

[KingFlorez]

2. He's descending into madness

It's really time for him to retire.

[reformist2]

41. Or, he's about to open one hell of a Pandora's Box of corruption. It's about time.

[lumberjack_jeff]

3. It's not a recount, it's a recanvass

A recanvass is essentially a review of the vote totals in each county. County clerks will review the absentee votes and check the printouts to make sure the numbers were correct when they were transmitted to the State Board of Elections.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/elections/kentucky/2015/05/19/recanvass-thing-recount/27629083/

[ericson00]

5. he rejects the result; same thing

he lost. A loss is a loss, a win is a win. He didn't get the latter, only the former. DEAL.

[lumberjack_jeff]

10. You sound really worried.

A recanvass that validates the original vote totals would tend to support your point, wouldn't it?

It's fairly clear that you don't expect that.

[pmorlan1]

29. I noticed that too

And posted something similar in another thread about this to what you just posted. It's very curious.

[KingFlorez]

12. Why not stop at Kentucky? Let's request recounts in all state!!!!

Heck, don't stop at that, demand revotes everywhere.

[reformist2]

42. One state at a time, my friend. One state at a time.

[icecreamfan]

4. Did you read your own article?

The campaign will ask the Kentucky secretary of state to recanvass. Rather than a recount, this is a review of voting tallies of electronic voting machines and absentee ballots from each of the state’s 120 counties.

[elleng]

6. Are YOU kidding ME,

'results currently show Clinton beat Sanders by by half of a percentage point' and you're suggesting a recount is a 'kidding' matter?

[Corporate666]

15. It's a joke because he has nothing to gain

and is only feeding his ego in this endeavor.

It's funny that for the past week or so we've been hearing how he tied in KY because they got essentially the same number of delegates... but if the results were switched it would be championed as a major win for BS.

[AzDar]

17. Some are interested in preventing/ exposing Election Fraud... others, not so much.

[senz]

60. Some seem strangely protective of it.

Reminds me of 2000. Hmm.

[Corporate666]

66. What fraud took place in KY? Where is your proof?

And what will the re-canvas achieve?

The simple fact is that there has been absolutely ZERO proof of any voter fraud, but the BSers see it at every turn. Why? Because the alternative is to accept that Bernie and his platform has been roundly rejected by the voting public.

It's like a guy who asks a girl out and gets rejected, and he says "didn't want to go out with you anyway, you stupid bitch!"... the guy is deluding himself into believing an alternate reality because he's not emotionally mature enough to accept actual reality.

[AzDar]

69. The margin was LESS THAN 1%... multiple reports of irregularities (again ) especially in Pike Co

What are you so afraid they'll FIND?

[Corporate666]

70. Why do you equate illogic with fear?

Is Bernie afraid to drop out? He must be since he doesn't want to do it.

Is O'Malley afraid to win the nomination? He must be since he doesn't want to continue his race.

Or maybe doing something illogical is just....illogical.

What were the "illegularities" in Pike co? You mean the much-talked about and explained quirk where all the votes disappeared due to a glitch that was quickly resolved? Is your assertion that Clinton and the DNC are smart enough to orchestrate a national fraud so convincing and well covered that it is able to steal a national election without anyone having the slightest shred of proof. BUT, they just aren't quite good enough to knock Bernie out a few months ago, nor are they quite good enough to prevent their cover being blown by their dastardly plan being unveiled on national TV during prime-time... and ONLY a small subset of Sanders supporters are clued-in enough to recognize this fraud?

Or... is it more likely you are suffering extreme confirmation bias and seeing precisely what you want to see?

It's really no different than birthers or truthers.

[firebrand80]

7. If Bernie was an NFL coach

He would challenge the refs giving him 4 yards when he really deserved 5, on 4th & 8.

[Kang Colby]

65. LOL...that's funny. Eom

[fasttense]

8. Good, if Hillary won fairly,

Then she and her supporters have nothing to complain about.

But if she didn't win fairly, her supporters will be here calling voters sore losers. Just Like When the Bushes Stole the Election in 2000.

[kgnu_fan]

9. Good for you, Bernie!

[Retrograde]

11. If it's that close, yes, it does make sense

For a less than 1% difference I'd expect a recount, and I'm not even a Sanders supporter.

[pmorlan1]

33. Good for you

[MoonRiver]

13. OMG

[azurnoir]

14. Good there was a 0.5% difference between the vote totals for Hillary and Bernie

[TwilightZone]

16. Recanvass, not a recount. It's just a review of the voting totals.

And not a full recount.

[murielm99]

20. Illinois has an automatic canvas

at the county level. The chairman of each party attends, or he/she sends a designated representative. They witness the canvas.

At least one precinct is chosen randomly and all those votes are recounted. If there are any contested ballots, the county clerk points them out and gets a consensus on whether or not the intent was clear. If so, it is included in the tally. I know that our county clerk tries to be fair about all the ballots in all the precincts.

The county chairmen may not touch the ballots or interfere with them, but they see everything that goes into the count and the decision-making process.

The last time I was involved with this, the Green Party was on the ballot. They did not send a representative. I suppose they had low numbers, so they did not bother. I assume this was legal, too. No one can force them to be there.

I don't know the laws for a recanvass. It seems like a big job for little or no gain. I think, in this case it might be justified. I hope it is not just another Bernie campaign ploy to find a reason to whine.

[TwilightZone]

23. I don't have a problem with it.

Though, I do think it's just another way to build in an excuse if he doesn't win the nomination. Same thing with trying to extend the deadline in California. They already had a year.

That being said, in Kentucky's case, it was close enough that the AP hasn't called it, so it makes some sense there. I'm surprised that more states don't have an automatic recanvass built in for races that are that close.

[pmorlan1]

34. Automatic recanvass

I'm surprised too. They should have them built in for close races.

[workinclasszero]

18. Oh FFS!

Biggest sore LOSER ever!

[Eric J in MN]

19. Now it's controversial to think Americans should have accurate vote totals? NT

NT

[NWCorona]

22. Strange times we are in.

[MineralMan]

21. Well, if he's right, he could gain as many as one or two

delegates. That would surely put him over the top.

[TwilightZone]

24. Well, if he can combine that with one or two from another 150 or so states, he's a lock!

[Tom Rinaldo]

32. There are reasons why many states hold automaic recounts in close elections

And it is not just to be sure who really won. It protects both the integrity of our elections and public confidence that the outcomes that they produce are just. That trust is essential to democracy. It makes a lot of sense and it is about much more than one or two delegates in this specific case.

[Demsrule86]

57. This is not an election

It is a primary. He has already lost the primary...waste of time and money.

[Tom Rinaldo]

62. It's called a primary election

And, to an extent, faith in the integrity of our electoral system is on the line in each and every one of them. There has been a long series of observed electoral system break downs so far this year. Whether or not anything more malicious, or partisan than trying to effect voter turn out has not been established. When people lose faith in the mechanism behind any of our elections, they lose motivation to vote. That is bad for democracy, and bad for the Democratic Party.

[Demsrule86]

71. Total nonsense and make Bernie

look weak.

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. It is called election integrity

At onetime democrats pretended to care. Like oh 2000 and 2004. Now we know better

In CA that difference would have automatically triggered it

[Matt_in_STL]

44. For this crowd you might want to add a definition of integrity to your post

They seem to have lost the meaning somewhere along the way.

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. Sadly I concur

[Ghost Dog]

63. Integrity? That's for losers.

That's the overriding meme.

[Txbluedog]

25. Let him

And watch what happens if Clinton manages to get more votes in KY because if it, I am wondering when Sanders will begin selling special tin foil hats to his supporters

[hrmjustin]

26. Doesn't bother me.

[JaneyVee]

27. He's all ego.

[highprincipleswork]

28. No, not kidding. It's called reality. Deal with it. If the system works correctly, things can be

easily verified one way or the other.

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. Less than 2000 votes

In my state that triggers it automatically

[One of the 99]

31. He has every right to request a recount.

[TwilightZone]

38. He didn't request a recount.

He requested a recanvass. It's just a review of the voting totals, not a complete recount.

The thread title is inaccurate, as I and others noted.

[One of the 99]

64. Either way, he still has the right to request one.

[pmorlan1]

36. Why are so many Clinton supporters

hostile to the integrity of the vote? Are you that damn partisan that you would make fun of something like this? Take a lesson from some of the Clinton supporters posting in this thread who are not attacking this. Good grief.

[B Calm]

39. They are scared.

[reformist2]

43. It really is revealing. If they were smart, they'd get ahead of it and say they have nothing to hide

[pmorlan1]

54. Yup

They don't do smart, they only do divisive.

[Uncle Joe]

37. Good but the title of your thread is incorrect per the article in your own OP.

The Sanders campaign requested that the Kentucky secretary of state recanvass, rather than hold a recount. The Vermont senator's campaign wants a review of voting tallies of electronic voting machines and absentee ballots from each of the state’s 120 counties.

(snip)

A recanvassing is unlikely to have a significant effect on the voting totals, though it may influence the allocation of a single delegate. The sole remaining delegate is from the Sixth Congressional District, where Clinton leads Sanders leads by about 500 votes, according to a tally by The Associated Press, which first reported the recanvassing request.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/dem-primaries/281057-sanders-requests-recanvass-of-kentucky-primary

Thanks for the thread, ericson00.

[Else You Are Mad]

40. Sunshine is the greatest enemy of corruption.

Nothing will really change they still will be awarded the same amount of delegates, but it is good to ensure nothing underhanded went down.

[Demsrule86]

48. Waste of time and money

completely stupid.

[Else You Are Mad]

58. Oh?

So when the GOP steals votes from Hillary can I tell you it is a waste of time and money to fight it? Because, let me tell you, since 2000 the GOP has been stealing votes.

[reformist2]

67. Yeah, double-checking your math is always "stupid". Great argument.

[Sky Masterson]

46. I'm loving the Right-Wing Sore/Loserman reactions.

DU is the new Free Republic.

[senz]

61. To me, it's beginning to feel like 2000 all over again.

If Republicanism is a cancer, the Dem Party is long overdue for treatment. Stat.

[Demsrule86]

47. Sore loser Bernie

Are you kidding? Could you be more pathetic?

[Tom Rinaldo]

49. Fine bunch of Democrats we make. Sore Loser???

Next thing you know we'll start mocking people who have the audacity to appeal court rulings. The State can do no wrong, whatever it says should be taken as the word of God - the State can not make mistakes, it is infallible. Anyone for bringing back divine rule?

[DCBob]

50. LOL.. as if.

[MrMickeysMom]

51. By all means... Re-canvass

[wendylaroux]

53. Good for Bernie

[taught_me_patience]

52. Fine by me, but probably a waste of time in the grand scheme of things n/t

[MohRokTah]

55. Two words

Sore loser.

[Tarc]

56. As long as the Sanders campaign is footing the bill and not the KY taxpayers, I have no prob here

[senz]

59. Not a recount, a re-canvass. Check the voting machines, etc.

The campaign wouldn't ask for it if there weren't a reason.

Surely you have no problem with that.

[snowy owl]

68. Expected. Surprised it took this long. Too close not to ask for re-examination.