Brother Cornel West: "Brother Bernie and Brother Trump are authentic human beings"

[pnwmom]

https://twitter.com/cornelwest

Cornel West ?‪@CornelWest‬ ‬24 Aug 2015

Brother Bernie and Brother Trump are authentic human beings in stark contrast to their donor-driven opponents.

Cornel West: "Obama is a global George Zimmerman."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/22/cornel-west-barack-obama_n_3635614.html

[hrmjustin]

1. Shameful.

[insta8er]

54. There is a lot in this world that is shameful, how about?..hmm fracking? selling your soul to wall-

street? taking money from Big Pharma so they can jack up prices that will ultimately make it impossible for people to afford the medication they need. How about denying single payer, because it is so contentious to get done? A lot of shameful things.

[Andy823]

79. I think

Paid trolls are worse, how about you? You have to watch out for them, there seem to be a lot of them here on DU.

[insta8er]

80. I agree, since we know that only 1 candidate pays them..it should be easy to flush them out

don't you think?

[Baobab]

82. the reason we dont have single payer is a trade deal

they don't tell us that but they should.

Its bad trade policy.

[insta8er]

88. Actually it is lot easie , big pharma was at the table with Obama regarding obamacare

He understood that they would try to move heaven and earth to block obamacare because they would see their profits plummet. So Obama compromised on the system that we have now.
Since big pharma and the healthcare industry have such a large and powerful lobby (aka, they bribe the ... out of our politicians) we will never see a single payer healthcare system because it would become too powerful for big pharma and the healthcare industry to fight against. Hillary already told us this, not because it is "contentious", but because like most politicians she answers to them and not to us.

[Baobab]

94. Thats true but I am also right- the lock-in igoes back much earlier, to 1994 - and its still there

Read this paper- http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.405.5725 and also this http://www.maine.gov/legis/opla/ctpchlthcaresub.pdf A similar issue exists for education.

[Baobab]

95. yes, pharma aspect of it is a huge problem, though and its really so very sad because we blame high

prices on european countries with public health care conveniently ignoring a number of important facts, namely that the EU is much more regulated than the US and prices are much lower BUT they still make quite good profits and patent slightly more drugs than we do.

[HumanityExperiment]

2. ...

let the trolling of Cornel West's character commence again... how many times has this meme been spun up by HRC supporters now?

[randome]

4. What meme? I see quotation marks around those statements.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[HumanityExperiment]

6. ...meep...

HRC lemmings about...

[leftynyc]

36. LOL

Your pathetic whining at people QUOTING HIS TWITTER FEED is simply adorable. And you call Hillary supporters lemmings. Carry on, I'm enjoying watching you make a fool out of yourself.

[Demsrule86]

9. He supports Trump

thus his character or lack therof has already been esablished.

[HumanityExperiment]

11. ...meep...

I'll let this refute your.. ummm... lack of 'intellectual fortitude'

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/23/cornel_west_trump_is_a_narcissistic_neo_fascist_in_the_making_clinton_is_a_hawkish_milquetoast_neoliberal/

[TwilightZone]

17. Well, at least he caught up with the rest of us.

Too bad it took him so long. Convenient for him that he's saying that now.

[HumanityExperiment]

24. try again....

[TwilightZone]

31. That's several months after his "authentic" comment about Trump.

Like I said, nice of him to join the rest of us in the real world.

Trump is many things. Authentic is the least of them.

[HumanityExperiment]

35. ...authentic...

So Trump being 'authentically' pseudo fascist is your point? Oh, I'm sorry... you left out the bits before and after the 'authentic' but there is that narrative you need to pile drive in... keep hammering away....

[pnwmom]

25. That doesn't cancel out his earlier tweet. nt

[HumanityExperiment]

27. ...meep...

...sure... it's not like HRC supporters are inclined to provide the whole truth, shaping a narrative from cherry picked pieces is the goal... got it

[scscholar]

60. This

The more that comes out about this guy, the more disgusted we all should be.

[TwilightZone]

21. Quoting his own twitter feed is a meme? Quoting his comments about Obama is a meme?

This place just keeps getting funnier.

[HumanityExperiment]

29. ...meep...

cherry picking to create a narrative without including all the facts.. hilarious indeed

[Sheepshank]

37. how does one cherry pick a quoted tweet? n/t

[HumanityExperiment]

47. ...meep...

Did Cornel just make the ONE comment about Trump are were there others?

see how this works?

[Sheepshank]

49. that only works if Cornell never made the comment in the firstplace

[HumanityExperiment]

52. ...meep...

Same could be said about OPs initial post here

See, if that tweet were the ONLY comment West made about Trump you'd have a point, but alas you don't

[Sheepshank]

64. Hopefully and in the future if you ever need to address a quote

you will also include the entire body of evidence and quotes that person ever made in their entire life. Hillary has been in the public eye for 25 years....you'll have a lot of homework to do.

This of course is assuming your were earnest in your silly assumption that the any quote will be classified as parsed unless it is part of an essay (or a book) of every quote ever made. I assume you were not being honest in that silly assumption of how parsing works.

[HumanityExperiment]

67. ...trust...

'Hillary has been in the public eye for 25 years'

Ever shifting left, or in her terminology 'evolving', on issues throughout those years and beyond

I've done my homework, hence my not supporting her in primary

Trust is something earned and HRC lacks trust, and I'm not the only that feel same... check the polls on that to verify

If you support and promote cherry picked bits to craft a narrative I'll be sure to call it out, as I would expect any intellectually honest individual to do

pretty simple... not silly at all

[Sheepshank]

91. your are all over the fucking place

either every single quote throughout the lifetime is required, as you have been postulating on behalf of West or not.

[AgingAmerican]

72. By posting it out of context

It's all there at the link

[Sheepshank]

87. the tweet was not posted out of context, for crying out loud.

[TwilightZone]

40. After he called Obama "niggerized", compared him to George Zimmerman, and called Trump authentic,

I think the narrative is pretty clear, thanks. I think it's also clear that he's trying to change the narrative as we speak. I'll stick to my opinion, thanks.

I know you have a problem with that, but I really don't care.

[HumanityExperiment]

44. ...meep...

...'but I really don't care'...

your continued replies state otherwise...

[Mary Mac]

101. if he used Obama and Zimmerman in the same sentence

No wonder Sanders lost. When your supporters say such ghastly things, its not your fault but you have to denounce it.

[leftynyc]

33. That's from his own twitter feed

so I'm afraid you're just going to have to suck it up. West is an asshole who thinks donnie is as stand up a person as Bernie is.

[HumanityExperiment]

39. ...meep...

herding HRC cats alert... the cat-nip narrative has got them all crazed up again...

[leftynyc]

43. LOL - I'm enjoying watching you

make a complete ass out of yourself defending this. It's simply adorable.

[HumanityExperiment]

51. ...meep...

have a day!

[leftynyc]

56. Thanks to you

I already am. Toodles.

[HumanityExperiment]

61. ...meep...

You set the bar low my friend if my replies hinge on that.. LMAO

[snooper2]

42. beats me but he is in the running for the Douchebag of the year award

[HumanityExperiment]

50. There ya go...

at least that's the most 'honest' reply going so far...

think of him as you wish, but at least be truthful to the facts and all the statements he's made about the person before you cherry pick the ONE that fits a narrative you want to try to bash the man with...

[RandySF]

55. So he never tweeted that?

[HumanityExperiment]

59. ...meep...

Did I state that? nope...

Point is was that the only statement West made concerning Trump...

Still want to cling to the cherry picked craptasticular meme that's trying to be crated here or will you be more truthful in your replies moving forward?

[MattP]

3. Bernie should have picked Kanye West he has less of a ego

[alcibiades_mystery]

5. The judgment to put this sad, deteriorating gentleman on a platform committee!

Good Lord!

Bernie isn't simply incompetent. He's downright dangerous.

[mcar]

7. Oh FFS!

[Demsrule86]

8. And Bernie is bringing a fox Trump admirer

to the convention...yep birds of a feather.

[JonLeibowitz]

30. Cornel West:

“Just to tell the truth, Trump is a narcissistic neo-fascist in the making, and you just have to say that. That’s what it is"

[basselope]

10. Thank you reminding me of why I respect Cornel West so much!

[bettyellen]

12. He comes off as stupid as Paglia sometimes! She adores the Trump image....

probably because she find similarities to Dionysus. LOL.

[Tarc]

13. West is a slimeball

"a global George Zimmerman"...

[AgingAmerican]

14. The smear job of BLM activist continues

By none other than Hillary supporters

[pnwmom]

20. The only person smearing West is himself, with his own words. n/t

[AgingAmerican]

22. Apparently you couldn't be bothered to read the content at your own link

[pnwmom]

26. That was a tweet that he chose to send out into the world -- AS IS.

His judgment is deeply flawed.

[AgingAmerican]

28. Sent out with a dozen or so other tweets

Which give context.

Your cherry picked premise is deceptive, according to your own link.

[snooper2]

45. Just because somebody is associated with BLM doesn't mean they can't also be a fucking idiot

[TwilightZone]

15. lol - Trump is authentic, all right

He's an authentic, grade A, dyed-in-the-wool jackass.

[ericson00]

16. there's gotta be a petition or something to dump West

he has no place in the Democratic party. This entryism tactic of the extreme Green Party is evil.

[JaneyVee]

18. Brother Trump? No thanks.

[Cheese Sandwich]

19. authentic smile

[BeyondGeography]

23. We know one thing

Cornel's not a fake.

[Sheepshank]

32. OMFG....no more whining from the BS'ers when there is a parallel drawn between BS and DT n/t

[Surya Gayatri]

34. The Bern must be so proud that that's the kind of supporter he attracts.

[AgingAmerican]

41. Indeed we are

Did you bother reading the link provided in the OP? Apparently not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2043723

[AgingAmerican]

38. Here is the context the OP is hiding from you

In this cherry picked, out of context OP. Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we choose to deceive.

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
Brother Bernie and Brother Trump are authentic human beings in stark contrast to their donor-driven opponents.

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
Yet only Bernie has authenticity and integrity, whereas Trump is for real but not for right.

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
Trump's attacks on precious Mexican brothers and sisters are unconscionable -- even as his blessed mother was born in Scotland...

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
...and grandfather (Mr. Drumpf) was born in Germany. #Trump

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
Trump's kind of nativistic hostility could have excluded them.

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
His unpatriotic complicity with the plutocratic corruption of our political system for over 30 yrs calls into question his integrity #Trump

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
And calls into question his commitment to "make America great again." #Trump

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
My endorsement of Brother Bernie in the primaries is not an affirmation of the neo-liberal Democratic Party...

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
My endorsement of Brother Bernie is not a downplaying of the immorality of the ugly Israeli occupation of Palestinians...

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
I endorse Brother @BernieSanders because he is a long-distance runner with integrity in the struggle for justice for over 50 years.

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
Now is the time for his prophetic voice to be heard across our crisis-ridden country. #BernieSanders

Cornel West ?@CornelWest 24 Aug 2015
We will push him with integrity toward a more comprehensive vision of freedom for all. @BernieSanders #BernieSanders2016

[snooper2]

48. I'm thinking twitter isn't the best social medium for him to be using

[immoderate]

65. Hillarians read that as West supporting Trump. No wonder no one trusts her.

--imm

[pnwmom]

74. Cornel West deliberately put out that out as a single tweet. He can't undo it by saying

more critical things about Trump subsequently.

[AgingAmerican]

75. He put it out as part of a dozen or so tweets

Done consecutively in which he builds context.

You are being dishonest again.

[pnwmom]

76. Anyone who tweets knows that each tweet will be read and understood out of context.

That is the risk he CHOSE to take.

[AgingAmerican]

78. You are making excuses for dishonesty

IN doing so, you are admitting that you are taking it out of context.

Ironic?

[pnwmom]

81. It isn't dishonest for me to post a single full tweet. He probably has thousands of tweets out there

and no one is required to post them all, to provide "context."

I also didn't post many other anti-Obama posts Cornel has made, which also would have provided "context."

You don't like what he said about Brother Trump being authentic, so you're trying to pretend he didn't say what he said. That's being dishonest.

[AgingAmerican]

83. It is what Hillary supporters do

Cherry pick statements out of context then pretend to be outraged.

It is dishonest, but they don't have a lot to go on, so they feel they must do it.

Textbook cognitive dissonance.

[pnwmom]

84. If I'd wanted to, i could have provided context with dozens of Cornel's anti-Obama tweets,

but I didn't.

The point could be made with the two single tweets.

[AgingAmerican]

85. Cognitive dissonance

Makes them do it

[Armstead]

90. He doesn't have to....Except for the cherry pickers

[uponit7771]

98. +1, West is slime

[kiva]

102. Thanks for the whole series of tweets, AA.

Sort of makes a big difference, doesn't it?

[MohRokTah]

46. IS West even a Democrat?

Sanders was an idiot to put him on the committee.

[fleabiscuit]

53. Definitely all 'birds' of a feather. eom

[MineralMan]

57. Brother Trump, eh?

"authentic human beings," eh? Nice. And this is one of the people Bernie put on the platform committee?

Plank 32: Only "authentic human beings" who aren't "politically correct" may be nominated for President.

[msanthrope]

86. That's anti-Cyborg. Shame on you! nt

[bravenak]

96. He loves Brother Trump and Brother Jeb!.

[RandySF]

58. Brother Trump must be thrilled

That Brother Bernie and Brother Cornell have his back.

[GulfCoast66]

99. But what about

Brer Rabbit and brer bear?

[MineralMan]

62. I have it on good authority that Donald Trump is actually a space alien

in disguise. If elected, he will peel off his face and reveal himself as ertnsa32 from the planet MPHRNY.

We don't want to see that in January, therefore a vote for Hillary Clinton will prevent a national panic and intergalactic usurpation of our government

[LAS14]

63. What????????

It's a good thing for Harvard that it didn't cave and let him run off to other pastures.

[frazzled]

66. I'm not sure what "authentic" means

It gets tossed around a lot, but I never had a clue as to what it means with respect to a person. (A jewel or a document can be authentic, but how is a person "authentic&quot ?

I'm beginning to think it just means "male." Or rather, males who say anything that comes off the top of their heads. Or angry males. Firebrands. I'm beginning to think being female pretty much automatically excludes a person from being considered among the class to which people attach the vague term "authentic." It's a convenient way to deny personhood to women candidates, it would seem. Women are "inauthentic" because it is not their authentic role to pursue leadership positions. Real fundamentalist crap.

People say Clinton isn't "authentic." But when I look at old speeches or old footage, going back to her college days, I see pretty much the same person: not a firebrand, but just smart, wonkish, hard-working person. That's who she is and who she's always been. Isn't that "authentic"? It certainly can't mean changing or evolving on positions, because take, say, Elizabeth Warren, who subscribed to Republican positions and voted for Republicans for the first 46 years of her life. Yet no one says, now that she's a Democrat, that she's inauthentic (well, they did say she wasn't an authentic Indian, so I guess that even is a moniker that got thrown at her in an attempt to disqualify her from office).

I don't buy this "authenticity" ploy as a measure of anything. I know some authentic assholes. Is that something to crow about?

[okieinpain]

68. that's cornel west, his feelings are hurt. so therefore.... n/t.

[Metric System]

69. Oh brother.

[BootinUp]

70. You want to talk about opportunism West defenders?

Here's a guy pumping up the Trumpster apparently to try and appeal to his supporters. Fuck that.

[auntpurl]

71. Oh great.

[SidDithers]

73. Cornel West to Jeb: 'You stay strong'

Cornel West, an activist and surrogate for Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, bumped into Jeb Bush in South Carolina on Friday on his way to breakfast.

"We just ran into brother Jeb, and it was good to see him," West told a Mashable reporter, indicating he gave the GOP presidential candidate and former Florida governor a hug.

"I said, 'You stay strong.' God bless he and his family," West recalled.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/270016-cornel-west-to-jeb-you-stay-strong





Awwww, that's nice. He gave Bush a hug.

Sid

[MadBadger]

100. Bet he wouldnt say that to Brother Zimmerman

[workinclasszero]

77. Sounds like a typical berner I guess

[Armstead]

89. The Wit and Wisdom of Clinton's Buddy Lloyd

You can look at history of these things, and Social Security wasn't devised to be a system that supported you for a 30-year retirement after a 25-year career... So there will be things that, you know, the retirement age has to be changed, maybe some of the benefits have to be affected, maybe some of the inflation adjustments have to be revised.
Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/l/lloyd_blankfein.html

'

Is it possible to make too much money… to have too much ambition… too successful ? As the guardian of the interests of the shareholders and, by the way, for the purposes of society, I’d like them to continue to do what they are doing. I don’t want to put a cap on their ambition. It’s hard for me to argue for a cap on their compensation.'
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2013/07/24/goldman-sachs-7-of-lloyd-blankfeins-most-memorable-quotes/

[Blue_Tires]

92. That's why I know Sanders is trolling folks by putting him on the platform committee...

So when West says something outrageous and gets attacked for it, the Sanders camp can fall back into 'political martyr' mode

[Blue_Tires]

93. Remember that age-old theory of the far left

going so far around the bend that they become indistinguishable from the far right??

Ben Carson and Cornel West actually agree: Obama’s ‘not black enough’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/02/23/ben-carson-and-cornel-west-actually-agree-obamas-not-black-enough/?postshare=2911464046430910&tid=ss_tw

[uponit7771]

97. Oh, they brought out "brotha" fucka West now... lol... they're truly desperate