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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:03 PM May 2016

Hillary on Trump: "How can anybody lose money running a casino?"

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-casinos-bankrupt-223486

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"What little we know of his economic policies would be running up our debt, starting trade wars, letting Wall Street run wild, all of that could cause another crash and devastate working families and our country," [/font]the Democratic candidate told an audience at the Service Employees International Union's annual convention in Detroit. [font size="3"]"Trump economics is a recipe for lower wages, fewer jobs, more debt. He could bankrupt America like he's bankrupted his companies. I mean, ask yourself, how can anybody lose money running a casino? Really. "[/font]

Clinton remarked that she hears from families "every day" about what a Trump presidency would mean for immigrants living and working in the United States, particularly those in mixed-status families where children were born in the country but parents are perhaps undocumented. "We're talking about real people," Clinton said.

[font size="3"]“He’s talking about sending a deportation force to schools, workplaces and homes to round up moms, dads, grandparents, even children. When he talks about ending birthright citizenship, he’s talking about kicking children who are born here out of the only country they know," [/font]she said, referring to Trump's remarks in an interview with MSNBC's "Morning Joe" last November.
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Hillary on Trump: "How can anybody lose money running a casino?" (Original Post) Bill USA May 2016 OP
What is Wall Street? Downwinder May 2016 #1
A casino with hugely better odds for players than a Las Vegas style casino? nt puffy socks May 2016 #2
And no tax. Downwinder May 2016 #8
Yep, never a sure thing puffy socks May 2016 #11
Bank robbers never get as much cash as the banks lose Downwinder May 2016 #14
A largely vacuous term people have used as a stand-in Recursion May 2016 #19
That's a good line. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #3
yeah! I'm hoping it keeps getting repeated throughout the campaign! Bill USA May 2016 #9
Time to make hay of anyone who supports Drumpf ffr May 2016 #4
the childishly vindictive could.(check out Ch Vind idiot comments on this thread) Bill USA May 2016 #15
It's a language that Dems don't understand ffr May 2016 #18
Wall Street. Autumn May 2016 #5
True. People literally hand them money for nothing in return. JaneyVee May 2016 #6
Your players 'break the bank'. closeupready May 2016 #7
Nice one! vintx May 2016 #10
This. Not successful! scscholar May 2016 #16
Low cost rib-eye buffets? eom yawnmaster May 2016 #12
Drumpf and Republicans are waking up. truedelphi May 2016 #13
It's not that clear-cut. Jim Lane May 2016 #17
 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
11. Yep, never a sure thing
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:25 PM
May 2016

but beats slots Keno Craps!

Lehman temporarily shuffled $50 billion of troubled assets off its books in the months before its collapse in September 2008 to conceal its dependence on leverage.
Lehman bros borrowed $18bn to cover their robbing Peter to pay Paul schemes.

Greed is not good.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
19. A largely vacuous term people have used as a stand-in
Wed May 25, 2016, 03:33 AM
May 2016

for every aspect of the economy they don't like.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
4. Time to make hay of anyone who supports Drumpf
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:14 PM
May 2016

How could anyone with an I.Q. above 10 support this guy? Fools. And dangerous fools at that!

ffr

(22,669 posts)
18. It's a language that Dems don't understand
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:21 AM
May 2016

while talks to the soul of Reps. We ignore it. They are shamed by it.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
10. Nice one!
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:21 PM
May 2016

Hope to hear that one often... great way to succinctly remind voters that he is NOT a 'successful businessman' he is a con man

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
13. Drumpf and Republicans are waking up.
Tue May 24, 2016, 05:29 PM
May 2016

Far better to run a Charity Foundation, or else get themselves a high up position at State.

No need to worry about the mob, and a person can end up with an amount just shy of one billion to play with.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
17. It's not that clear-cut.
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:23 PM
May 2016

I think all or almost all of Trump's casinos have operated at a consistent profit if you examine only EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization). They've shown a loss because Trump financed the acquisitions with high-interest junk bonds instead of putting his own money at risk. The interest payments tended to overwhelm the casinos' operating profits. In the ensuing bankruptcies, the biggest losers were generally the pigeons who'd been beguiled by the Trump name into buying the bonds.

Yes, Trump himself has had to accept some reductions in his percentage ownership of the companies, but he was also able to take money out of the companies before the bankruptcies. In some cases, he's received money or stock in exchange for allowing the continued use of his name even after he no longer had any other connection with the casino.

Trump personally has never declared bankruptcy. Is he, overall, a net gainer or a net loser from his casino involvements? I'll guess net gainer but it's just a guess. You'd probably need individual and corporate tax returns plus SEC filings plus casino regulatory authority filings plus a team of accountants and lawyers to say for sure.

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