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Hardball is DESPERATE to knock Bernie out of the race now. (Original Post) grasswire May 2016 OP
Sanders is out of the race. Oh reality, how cruel. seabeyond May 2016 #1
I'll let someone else respond. nt grasswire May 2016 #2
Right. There really is nothing to be said. Reality. seabeyond May 2016 #4
so don't respond. elleng May 2016 #14
Me? Lol. The poster taunt me with a non responsive taunt. I would think he would be the one you seabeyond May 2016 #19
YOU said 'There really is nothing to be said,' so elleng May 2016 #31
Oh lordy. I was responding to the poster. Like, a fluid conversation. Lol seabeyond May 2016 #64
So much emotion is hard to respond to. Post factually/issues/reasons for your feelings. snowy owl May 2016 #44
Sanders. Lost. Clinton. Won. Easier? seabeyond May 2016 #65
Better. snowy owl May 2016 #71
taunt? grasswire May 2016 #46
AS you do, lol. You aren't getting this non response thing, are you? seabeyond May 2016 #66
Wow.....gonna be so nice when Hillarious-Hillary loses.... seekthetruth May 2016 #82
yeah, that nt grasswire May 2016 #84
OMG.... Sanders has been coddled. The worst, chip on the shoulder, always picked on. Lordy. seabeyond May 2016 #85
You guys crack me up.... seekthetruth May 2016 #87
Sanders issue don't compare to Clinton. Pay plenty of attention to issues. As far as character, seabeyond May 2016 #89
Support for fracking? seekthetruth May 2016 #91
You want to see screamjng? That would be Sanders. seabeyond May 2016 #92
???? seekthetruth May 2016 #98
Sanders made speeches at those annavictorious May 2016 #119
Funny. seekthetruth May 2016 #120
My suggestion, for what it is worth, is just never, ever respond to 'him/her.' pangaia May 2016 #83
LOL! Good choice. merrily May 2016 #5
Not Worth It pmorlan1 May 2016 #7
It is black fly season in New England now, maybe he just wants to stay on the West Coast :) Tarc May 2016 #17
chris Matthews is a TOTAL POS! CORPORATIST NATION TRULY ON FULL DISPLAY! CorporatistNation May 2016 #78
Hear me roar.... seabeyond May 2016 #80
No, it's not a roar. More like shouting out of sheer desperation. COLGATE4 May 2016 #95
all caps dilute. MFM008 May 2016 #103
He's already out of it StayFrosty May 2016 #3
Grocery money Mike__M May 2016 #32
Yeah, no mystery speech money. mac56 May 2016 #45
That's privilege for those of us doing well. Clinton has her dark money so why begrudge Sanders? snowy owl May 2016 #48
And by doing so, he's not allowing Hillary... scscholar May 2016 #72
and the DNC is still denied the donor list so they can hollysmom May 2016 #101
The truth can be a very inconvenient thing. I understand. Trust Buster May 2016 #6
yes the truth that corporations back corportist politicians. wendylaroux May 2016 #16
oh I'm sure YOU do GreatGazoo May 2016 #59
what did they say? trudyco May 2016 #8
And it's Joe and Mika who are doing the cleanest, clearest reporting on Bernie pdsimdars May 2016 #34
isn't that the damndest thing? dana_b May 2016 #117
I heard him say re GWB that he "liked this guy." Anything's possible. snowy owl May 2016 #54
If you're talking about Tweety, you've got to be kidding me. Wednesdays May 2016 #115
That's funny, I wasn't on DU so didn't know. snowy owl May 2016 #116
I guess you weren't around for the 2008 primaries annavictorious May 2016 #9
Wow! That is brutal! Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #27
Same with a lot of DUers, elleng May 2016 #10
Flushing out a lot of unpleasant realities, isn't it? senz May 2016 #21
AWFUL! elleng May 2016 #30
True! senz May 2016 #38
Sure does! elleng May 2016 #57
Oh. Yes. senz May 2016 #60
Thanks, senz. elleng May 2016 #62
Flushing out a lot of misogyny, actually. annavictorious May 2016 #36
How are you getting misogyny out of this? panader0 May 2016 #40
I think it's the last resort. senz May 2016 #47
It's everywhere. In every statement. merrily May 2016 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #105
Meh. It's the veggie version of the uber common dancing banana. merrily May 2016 #110
Ohh, getting pretty nasty there ... senz May 2016 #42
You think randomly saying the word "Misogyny" gives you a win? AgingAmerican May 2016 #61
Interesting number$ you have there...... alittlelark May 2016 #73
Don't give them power over you! oldandhappy May 2016 #11
They are ready to go full on Clinton v Trump. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #12
They've been pushing Trump for months. nt senz May 2016 #23
They have enormous amounts of material. NCTraveler May 2016 #25
They didn't vet Hill either. senz May 2016 #29
I disagree. They have been no friend to Clinton. NCTraveler May 2016 #35
They've been vetting Hillary since 1992. annavictorious May 2016 #39
1992...Bullshit! GulfCoast66 May 2016 #97
If this were happening to Hillary, they would call them Fox news.... Segami May 2016 #13
I can't watch Rachel any more. senz May 2016 #24
Bernie doesn't send a thrill up his leg pmorlan1 May 2016 #15
Neither did Hillary in 2008. NBC News owns both Matthews legs. He sells out easily. merrily May 2016 #56
He's the kind of guy pmorlan1 May 2016 #74
Yesterday Matthews said he'd call Calif. for Hill before the polls close! senz May 2016 #18
No, he didn't say that. They will call each state when polls close in that state lunamagica May 2016 #111
I didn't get the name of the most vile panel member grasswire May 2016 #20
Hm. Hope he doesn't post here. senz May 2016 #28
There's a race? onehandle May 2016 #22
The gaping yaws on Harball certainly seem to think so, they are lathered up over it to an absurd Bluenorthwest May 2016 #76
24 hours to fill with stupid. onehandle May 2016 #77
Recommend... KoKo May 2016 #26
What Bernie is willing to go through for us is simply amazing. senz May 2016 #33
Yeah, burning through $210,000,000 annavictorious May 2016 #41
Just about every reply I'm getting is from you. senz May 2016 #53
They can't. Brock cracks the whip riderinthestorm May 2016 #88
Why in hell should she have to "back off"? Because you say so? COLGATE4 May 2016 #96
+1 jwirr May 2016 #43
excellent grasswire May 2016 #52
You know, I thought he was very intelligent, very honest when I decided to support him Samantha May 2016 #99
I think they want him out now because they know that Hillary is about to get really busy pdsimdars May 2016 #37
I am not sure if that is the precise reason nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #50
So Bernie runs around calling Hillary evil and promising a messy convention Renew Deal May 2016 #49
MSNBC are bottom feeders AgingAmerican May 2016 #51
I remember Hardball. bvf May 2016 #55
Cutting my cable means $1 less going to MSNBC each month. reformist2 May 2016 #67
actually I would expect some mandatory cable legislation in the next two terms reddread May 2016 #69
Yep. Did that last year. bvf May 2016 #75
More people watch TYT than that garbage. JRLeft May 2016 #63
They didn't say anythng that isn't true. n/t Lil Missy May 2016 #68
when you take on the establishment it will use everything it has to stop you GreatGazoo May 2016 #70
their desperation is directly proportional to their fear that Bernie will win the nomination amborin May 2016 #79
yes, I know grasswire May 2016 #86
horrifying amborin May 2016 #94
I guess we'll have to buy out NBCuniversal/Comcast Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #81
MSNBC is owned by right wing assholes. So it's no surprise. GoneFishin May 2016 #90
I'd have a hard time watching that, I admit it... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #93
It is not really Hardball any more -- we probably should just call it Spitball (eom) Samantha May 2016 #100
hahaha! grasswire May 2016 #102
People are still watching MSNBC? underthematrix May 2016 #104
All you who want him out so bad, try to hold your premature exclamation. Anxiety - not pretty. highprincipleswork May 2016 #106
It has been too close PATRICK May 2016 #107
#boycottmsnbc Jack Bone May 2016 #108
Desperate to knock him out? barrow-wight May 2016 #109
Whereas Morning Joe is cheerleading for him oberliner May 2016 #112
sanders is already out of the race....nobody needs to knock him out it beachbum bob May 2016 #113
You mean the "We're all neocons now!" guy? What a surprise. delrem May 2016 #114
Stop watching that stupid show dana_b May 2016 #118
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. Me? Lol. The poster taunt me with a non responsive taunt. I would think he would be the one you
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:51 PM
May 2016

tell not to respond. But, no. You state I shouldn't respond? I think not. I think I will respond if I want to respond. I think the poster that has no more than.... I will let other respond, is the one that fails, in the response position.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
44. So much emotion is hard to respond to. Post factually/issues/reasons for your feelings.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

Constant attacks border on ad hominems.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
82. Wow.....gonna be so nice when Hillarious-Hillary loses....
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:49 PM
May 2016

because her followers were such asses to us Berners. You guys need us....remember that.

By the way, don't blame me for Trump getting into office. Remember, we think both candidates suck (Clumpenstein).

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
87. You guys crack me up....
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:54 PM
May 2016

......so little attention is paid to the issues, and you vote for personality over character/judgement.

I'm sure the average Roman citizen began to think that way decades before the collapse of the empire.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
89. Sanders issue don't compare to Clinton. Pay plenty of attention to issues. As far as character,
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:05 PM
May 2016

Clinton kicks Sanders ass.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
91. Support for fracking?
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:56 PM
May 2016

Voting for Iraq war?

Thinking that invading Libya and hoping democracy can take hold?

One week screaming that universal healthcare will never become reality only to "evolve" and agree with Sanders a few weeks later?

Denying the working class a livable minimum wage at $15/hour?

Cozying up to party elites and ensuring superdelegate support months before the election? (Potential) campaign finance fraud?

Taking LOTS of money for speeches, claiming that they'll release said transcripts when every other candidate does, then when all remaining candidates have no history of making speeches, completely ignores the issue (hoping people forget)?

Not being genuine about her opponent's positions, claiming he voted against an auto-bailout when it was stacked to benefit Wall Street?

Supporting neoliberal economic policies (NAFTA, TPP) when it's literally killing jobs?

Having an open FBI investigation?

......on and on and on.

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
98. ????
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:46 AM
May 2016

Not sure what you meant...but I guess.

What does screaming have anything to do with those issues?

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
119. Sanders made speeches at those
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:57 PM
May 2016

big dollar corporate and financial sector donor retreats the he hosted in exchange for funding for his senate campaign from the DSCC.

He said something to get those one percenters to open their wallets.

I'd love to see those transcripts. After Sanders is done releasing those embarrassing tax returns, maybe he can release the transcripts from those speeches.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-regular-luxurious-dscc-fundraising-retreats
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-regular-luxurious-dscc-fundraising-retreats

 

seekthetruth

(504 posts)
120. Funny.
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:04 AM
May 2016

That's the only example? How long is the list of your candidate's list of $225k earnings per speech?

Good god.....try again.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
83. My suggestion, for what it is worth, is just never, ever respond to 'him/her.'
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:50 PM
May 2016

All he/she ever does is insult, ridicule taunt, bait and shit on anyone who favors Senator Sanders without saying anything...

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
17. It is black fly season in New England now, maybe he just wants to stay on the West Coast :)
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

and soak up some sun. Surely he can't be staying in because he still thinks he can win the nomination.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
78. chris Matthews is a TOTAL POS! CORPORATIST NATION TRULY ON FULL DISPLAY!
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:48 PM
May 2016

FASCISM ON THE MARCH... MEDIA AUTHORED BY THE CORPORATISTS!

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
103. all caps dilute.
Wed May 25, 2016, 03:23 AM
May 2016

If you want to overthrow the government try a South American country, it might be easier there.

StayFrosty

(237 posts)
3. He's already out of it
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:45 PM
May 2016

But he keeps encouraging his followers to send him the rent money and grocery money

Sad!

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
101. and the DNC is still denied the donor list so they can
Wed May 25, 2016, 03:11 AM
May 2016

take the rent money the food money and the baby milk money
heh.
You would think that they could just throw another 302K dinner.

trudyco

(1,258 posts)
8. what did they say?
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:46 PM
May 2016

Not surprising since Comcast contributes to Clinton as well as Hardball's wife, right?
I'm sure it's unbiased "reporting" ha!

I always thought of Chris as more of a Republican, though.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
117. isn't that the damndest thing?
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:24 AM
May 2016

Joe Frickin' Scarborough and Mika are the ones defending Bernie?! It blows my mind.

I cannot stand or tolerate listening to Matthews. Maddow just makes my eyes roll.

Wednesdays

(17,342 posts)
115. If you're talking about Tweety, you've got to be kidding me.
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:18 PM
May 2016

Maybe you weren't on DU back then, but when Dubya made his "Mission Accomplished" speech, Tweety was practically salivating over how * looked in his pilot suit, and it was a huge topic of conversation here for years afterward.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
116. That's funny, I wasn't on DU so didn't know.
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:15 AM
May 2016

I never forgot that utterance though. He really is transparent.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
36. Flushing out a lot of misogyny, actually.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:08 PM
May 2016

But if that's your version of reality, I'd say that you're part of the problem.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
58. It's everywhere. In every statement.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:29 PM
May 2016

How do you miss it?



I used to take it so personally when I got accused of misogyny, having had to fight it so hard at work.

Now, I just laugh. Way to take the sting out of your claims, folks! Too bad so doing disserves women so much.

Response to merrily (Reply #58)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
110. Meh. It's the veggie version of the uber common dancing banana.
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:45 AM
May 2016

However, Jillian did a really great one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280200945#post17

And, I rather enjoy this twerking one.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
42. Ohh, getting pretty nasty there ...
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:13 PM
May 2016

We were just talking earlier today how unfortunate it is that Hillary wants to negotiate away our abortion rights.

Her "feminism" is so convenient.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
73. Interesting number$ you have there......
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:23 PM
May 2016

Number of posts: 292
Number of posts, last 90 days: 292
Favorite forum: General Discussion: Primaries, 227 posts in the last 90 days (78% of total posts)
Favorite group: Hillary Clinton, 15 posts in the last 90 days (5% of total posts)

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
11. Don't give them power over you!
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:47 PM
May 2016

Stop watching. Terrible for your blood pressure! While we are getting rid of the DINO's we need to get rid of MSM. Leave them to their own tribe. I have had a blast discovering alternate media, mostly on YouTube.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
35. I disagree. They have been no friend to Clinton.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:07 PM
May 2016

At this point they simply want to move on. I get you believe they helped promote Clinton and hurt Sanders.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
39. They've been vetting Hillary since 1992.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:11 PM
May 2016

Maybe you're not old enough to remember. Writing nasty books about Hillary has long been a right wing cottage industry.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
97. 1992...Bullshit!
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:30 AM
May 2016

I lived in Arkansas from 76-84. She has been attacked since 76 when her liberal homeboy husband ran for office as AG of Arkansas.

He actually lost his first governor reelection campaign in 1980. One of the main issues was that Hillary had kept her maiden name. She took his name and he won in 82. I don't love Hillary, but she has been attacked for 40 years. And she tried to get a universal healthcare system Way superior to The ACA. And a Democratic Congress voted it down.

All these kids thinking Bernie is their Savior do not know what Hillary has been through.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
13. If this were happening to Hillary, they would call them Fox news....
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:48 PM
May 2016

They are worried and are now trying to knock him out......waiting to see what Rachel's bloviated thoughts on Bernie will be tonight, if any.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
15. Bernie doesn't send a thrill up his leg
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:48 PM
May 2016

I haven't watched Hardball in years. I see videos here every now and then but it's always been one of the worst shows on cable talk.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
56. Neither did Hillary in 2008. NBC News owns both Matthews legs. He sells out easily.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:22 PM
May 2016

In around 2005, he said he voted for Dimson twice.

And he's a rude, spittle- and bile-filled mess, no matter who he supports.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
18. Yesterday Matthews said he'd call Calif. for Hill before the polls close!
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

They want Bernie out of this NOW. They can't hide their desperation. They must be very afraid their establishment candidate is going to lose. Good, be afraid!

Stay in there, Bernie. We're with you all the way.

All. the. way.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
111. No, he didn't say that. They will call each state when polls close in that state
Wed May 25, 2016, 06:09 AM
May 2016

Due to time difference NJ will called hours before CA close. It is not a conspiracy. It has been done this way forever, both for primaries and the GE.

California will NOT be called before its poll closes

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
20. I didn't get the name of the most vile panel member
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:51 PM
May 2016

but I will be getting it. He was new to me. Never saw him before. But he must be the spawn of the devil. Really ugly talker.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
28. Hm. Hope he doesn't post here.
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:59 PM
May 2016

I'm glad they're going so ugly. Even half-way aware viewers should be able see through it.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
76. The gaping yaws on Harball certainly seem to think so, they are lathered up over it to an absurd
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:44 PM
May 2016

degree.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
77. 24 hours to fill with stupid.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:45 PM
May 2016

This is why Fox News is 24 hours a day and MSNBC runs out of 'news' late at night and over the weekend.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
33. What Bernie is willing to go through for us is simply amazing.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:06 PM
May 2016

These low despicable things who don't even come up to his ankles lying about him, throwing dirt at him, and he just keeps on keeping on.

I will be grateful for this man's astonishing honesty, courage and perseverance forever.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
88. They can't. Brock cracks the whip
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:54 PM
May 2016

7 weeks here and 3 hides already. This one has their work cut out for them.


grasswire

(50,130 posts)
52. excellent
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:16 PM
May 2016

I will be grateful for this man's astonishing honesty, courage and perseverance forever.

Amen.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
99. You know, I thought he was very intelligent, very honest when I decided to support him
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:55 AM
May 2016

Now I think he is amazing and what he has accomplished under the current climate is staggering to observe. He is a national hero for bringing out the issues he has put under the spotlight and telling the American people the cause the culprits responsible.

Sam

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
37. I think they want him out now because they know that Hillary is about to get really busy
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:09 PM
May 2016

with her scandal really soon and will have to "suspend". They want Bernie to be out already so when Hillary leaves, they can install their own candidate. If Bernie is still in, they can't do that very easily.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
50. I am not sure if that is the precise reason
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:15 PM
May 2016

but CNN is on day 6 I think of a missing plane... they tend to drag these ones out, but not this much

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
49. So Bernie runs around calling Hillary evil and promising a messy convention
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:15 PM
May 2016

And you criticize others for "words of aggression?" It makes no sense

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
55. I remember Hardball.
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:19 PM
May 2016

Run by a creepy, self-amused guy who interrupts everyone and talks about himself a lot? Sort of the opposite of a journalist?

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
69. actually I would expect some mandatory cable legislation in the next two terms
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:40 PM
May 2016

the title of the legislation will be "media reform"

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
75. Yep. Did that last year.
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:42 PM
May 2016

Never had much use for Matthews to begin with, but when they got rid of Ed, and surgically removed Maddow's integrity, that was that.

I miss TMC and Democracy Now! (can get the latter on the web anyway), but not much else.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
70. when you take on the establishment it will use everything it has to stop you
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:41 PM
May 2016

To paraphrase Cesar Milan, 'it is like an exorcism, sometimes the noise and protestations mean you are making progress' and then he would recommend putting Chris Matthews on a treadmill 30 minutes a day or running him on a leash while you rollerblade.

I'm also reminded of the Chinese proverb: "you grab the tail, you get the teeth."

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
93. I'd have a hard time watching that, I admit it...
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:06 PM
May 2016

However, thanks for the proof (added to all the other proof, I might add)

PATRICK

(12,228 posts)
107. It has been too close
Wed May 25, 2016, 03:42 AM
May 2016

for this natural closing game to advance smoothly or rationally. In such a case, a stupid pursuit of intimidation is truly counter productive where anger equates all too much to fear. This is how the supposed rational party and only putative representative of the sane interests of sane people loses it time and again. We think we can win it all by tradition, default and some mythical rules that the other side is completely empowered by disregarding.

barrow-wight

(744 posts)
109. Desperate to knock him out?
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:58 AM
May 2016

He's already out. From what I can see, they're just sick of him spoiling a race he's already out of.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
112. Whereas Morning Joe is cheerleading for him
Wed May 25, 2016, 06:39 AM
May 2016

Mika is a huge fan, and Joe himself is definitely keen on him staying in.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
113. sanders is already out of the race....nobody needs to knock him out it
Wed May 25, 2016, 06:47 AM
May 2016

math still doesn't work now or ever for sanders

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