Can anyone explain what is going on in WA state? This is on

[7wo7rees]

MSNBC right now being discussed by Tweety and Kornacki? Very confusing. Tks.

[MattP]

1. Most people have jobs and can't spend hours at a caucus

[Recursion]

2. A primary which includes a non-binding Presidential preference vote

It doesn't allocate delegates but it's one of the questions on the ballot; in the nature of these things it will have much higher turnout than a caucus.

[Mike__M]

5. Ballots counted today

amounted to 28% voter turnout, both parties.
Pretty pathetic. The presidential primary was the only thing on my precinct's ballot.
I suspect most voters have heard that the contests are over:
Republicans knew they didn't have a choice; Democrats knew it didn't matter.

[hrmjustin]

3. The party had a caucus in March to determine the delegates.

By law there is a promary in May and it was held today.

Hillary is winning it but will get no delegates.

http://results.vote.wa.gov/results/current/President-Democratic-Party.html

[7wo7rees]

4. Tks. Still not making any sense with graphics showing on

screen. Bernie in blue box with Bernie winning 73%, but then Kornacki writing over that with Bernie 49% and Hillary 51%.

[Recursion]

6. Kornacki's trolling a bit

Probably more than "a bit".

This doesn't impact the delegates, but it is a bark to the shin of Sanders's campaign right before California.

[Jrapin]

7. Meaningless

The vote that mattered in Washington was in the caucus in March. Bernie won handily. On the day when it counted, Bernie had an overwhelming victory. Today is just more obvious proof of the MSM bias and the desperate spin being deployed to prop up an extraordinarily flawed candidate in Clinton.

[JackRiddler]

8. Washington has stupid rules like all the others?

They hold a caucus that chooses all pledged delegates.

Weeks later, during a primary election for various offices, they throw in a presidential preference poll that doesn't choose anything and was not contested.

An absurd set-up. As is generally the case.

[7wo7rees]

10. Tks to all. I think I understand now.

Also must be why news has switched back over to all Trump. Good lord this is tiresom and to think we have 6 more months to go,...... .

[oberliner]

12. You are completely misinformed

The primary today is not "an election for various offices" with a "presidential preference poll" thrown in.

It is exclusively a presidential primary.

[JackRiddler]

15. Well that's even dumber.

What is the point of this exercise? Everyone, come vote in a pretend election that doesn't count for anything?

They should have one or the other, do you agree?

[joshcryer]

11. Caucuses are held at a specific time.

And they require a few hours minimum commitment to get done.

Mail in ballots are super damn freaking easy, you fill them out at any time, you can ruminate on the options for a week if you want to, and send it out.

[JackRiddler]

16. Correct in principle.

What's the point of what WA does, however? Caucus to decide, then a beauty pageant that doesn't count? It's a nutso setup.

[joshcryer]

17. Eh, they're printing primary ballots.

Doesn't hurt to add "presidential option" at the top.

My guess is they prefer caucuses for the perceived democratic nature. They feel quite democratic, until you realize that most people can't go to them and they're exclusionary.

[silvershadow]

13. Nothing of any consequence. nt

[passiveporcupine]

14. very low turnout for the primary in Washington

36% of Oregon residents voted in the primary. We didn't have a caucus.

28% of Washington residents voted in their primary. But they had a caucus in March.

They just didn't bother to vote in the Washington primary, because the caucus had already determined the delegate assignment.

It doesn't mean that more Washington Residents wanted Hillary. Many of the older residents (who tend to vote for Hillary) didn't go to the caucuses...the younger ones did and they went for Bernie.

If they only had a primary, I think Bernie would still have taken Washington (maybe not with as high a percentage as he did). The vote was very close in the primary...not in the caucus.

[joshcryer]

18. I think that's fair.

Which is why I think the crooning about Clinton winning WA is silly. If this was an actual contest I am sure that it would've gone differently.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Non binding, so most folks staid home

[7wo7rees]

20. Tks!!