When I got to the stadium today, I shed a tear or two. It was empty!!!

[ucrdem]

This is actually a tale of two rallies, as both Senator Sanders and Secretary Clinton came to my town today, and I had the good luck of scoring tickets to both events (I clicked "yes&quot . Well here's how it went down:

Hillary's was scheduled to start at 3:30 in the Johnson Family Practice Center at UC Riverside, which turns out to be a former gymnasium, and predictably was full when I got there at 4 with groups of students, onlookers, protesters of all stripes and of course security gathering around every outside walkway and entrance. Hillary was scheduled to speak at 5:30 and started at about 6:00, and spoke clearly, forcefully and thoughtfully on a number of issues including jobs, immigration, equal rights, union rights, national security, ACA, universal health care, Obama's record, her accomplishments as SoS and Senator, the dismal Bush presidency, Bill's accomplishments (big cheers and several big applause lines), the toxic political climate, the dangers of a Trump presidency, the need to work together, depending on California to help win the White House, and a few others. It was a good speech, well delivered, with quiet moments that were a little hard to hear over the crowd but effective nonetheless.

I worked my way to the barricades and put my 3-foot Go Hill sign (below) to use drowning out the protesters who to their credit didn't seem to be Bernie bros but the usual campus protesters. One chant they liked went "Hillary, Hillary, she'll put us in pov-er-ty." But I waved my sign and had fun yelling Go Hill, Hill-a-ry, 8 more years, ACA, White House, etc whenever they started up, with the effect that they were quiet enough so we could hear most of the speech. At a couple of points I noticed security casting me a concerned look but it was loads of fun.



Onto the Bernie rally, held at a local baseball stadium known as the Orange Show Bowl and scheduled to start at 7. I left the Hill event and got there around 7:15, but the stadium was completely empty. No crowds, no traffic, no signs, nothing. I walked to the entrance and a rent-a-cop there told me that the Bernie event was on the other side. A loooong walk later I finally found the Bernie event, with a crowd of about two hundred waiting to get inside. I could hear Bernie talking about Secretary Clinton, his huge campaign, 2 million people, if Democrats want to win he's their guy, the Walton family yadda yadda. I make my way to the barricades again and ask why people were waiting to get into an empty stadium?

It turns out Bernie wasn't in the stadium, he was in a quonset hut the size of grocery store called "National Orange Show Event Center" which probably holds as many people as were waiting, a couple of hundred. So being generous I'd say there 500 tops at Bernie's event, and guessing roughly from the size of the building maybe 1,000 at Hillary's. But Hillary's was on a nice college campus and Bernie's was in a flea market and as I walked back to my car past heaping boxes of badly printed Bernieware that's the vibe I got. I also passed at least one gent sleeping on the sidewalk and another relieving himself in the bushes.

To sum up, my on-the-ground impression of both events is that Hillary's campaign is a going proposition and Bernie's is coming to a well-earned rest. And here's my awesome sign which I discretely left in the car at the Bernie rally:

....................................
ETA: more pics posted below (reply #71).

[Lucinda]

1. KNR!

[Skwmom]

17. Hate to burst your bubble. More than 5,200 reported. Thousands more in Santa Monica.

SAN BERNARDINO >> Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders brought his campaign of unity and diversity to a crowd of more than 5,200 supporters Tuesday at the National Orange Show Events Center.

Sanders took on Wall Street and corporations like Walmart, saying the middle class should not have to subsidize the wealthiest family in America, the Waltons, through the low wages paid to workers.

In a high-energy atmosphere, Sanders tackled topics such as poverty, living in a “rigged” economy and Social Security. He explained that America is not supposed to be a country where the top 1 percent own almost as much as the bottom 99 percent.

http://www.sbsun.com/government-and-politics/20160524/election-2016-bernie-sanders-visits-san-bernardino

[ucrdem]

22. 5,200 is pure BernieMath. 5,200 would fill that stadium but the stadium was EMPTY.

They held the event in a shed.

[oasis]

39. You paint a clear picture. Bernie's campaign has finally fizzled.

I won't be long before he folds up his tent and goes quietly into the night.

[highprincipleswork]

77. You do realize they are quoting from a newspaper article, a San Bernadino newspaper. I am sure

they are not in the tank for Bernie.

I honestly do love your creative and flowery Hillary prose, but your post never begins to feel like it's real. At the same time, if it causes you or anyone on Hillary's side to just relax and let this one ago, I would encourage you with all my heart.

In any case, it is very clear that Bernie is doing very well at a large number of large events all over California.

California is feeling the Bern, and we're busy working it for Bernie, the far superior candidate in the race if the Democrats want to win this year.

http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/california-bern-ing?articleId=USRTSFS1G

[LanternWaste]

119. I cast as fiction that which doesn't validate my bias as well.

I cast as fiction that which doesn't validate my bias as well. Pretending as such is mentally convenient for us... though we'll no doubt maintain that convenience as righteous and pure.

[Karma13612]

98. Where you saw him might

Have been the over flow speech.

WHen people can't get into the stadiums, the overflow crowd is treated to a quick speech before Bernie goes into the main event. He's been doing that all over the country.

Obama did it in 2008 as well, I was at one in San Antonio TX where he did that for our overflow crowd.

[ucrdem]

100. Sounds reasonable but at this event the stadium was completely empty.

I took this while the rally was in progress:



The Bernie rally was held in an exhibit hall on the premises.

[imagine2015]

129. That's because Bernie's rally wasn't at the stadium. How long did it take you to figure that out?

[ucrdem]

130. I figured it out when I saw the empty stadium and asked a security guard where the rally was.

That's the whole point -- it was AT the stadium but not IN the stadium.

[imagine2015]

131. Next time you may want to fimd out where a rally is before you go to it.

Just saying.

And never go to see someone if you don't know where they are.

[virtualobserver]

2. the line for Bernie was 3 blocks long and there was a large overflow crowd that he also spoke to...

You are full of spin.

[ucrdem]

3. You're dreaming. I was there. nt

[virtualobserver]

4. I've seen the photos

[ucrdem]

5. What photos? San Bernardino? The stadium was empty. Crickets. Nothing.

He held his event in a large shed.

[virtualobserver]

7. This is the picture of the overflow crowd- few hundred there

[ucrdem]

33. Very nice, but it could be any high school auditorium.

And if you counted the faces in that photo, you'd be lucky if you got to 40.

[virtualobserver]

35. you must not be good at counting...and this is the overflow.......the venue holds more than 2000

[ucrdem]

41. Which venue?

The SB events center is pretty bare bones and doesn't have many windows. That photo looks like another venue,earlier in the day, but in any case there's no evidence of there being more than 50 people in that room without more info than just that photo.

[virtualobserver]

47. this was the overflow in Riverside

[ucrdem]

51. Could be. But that's not the event I'm talking about. nt

[virtualobserver]

59. this is the overflow from Riverside

now the nice thing about Hillary's rallies....

Everyone gets a nice, close seat.

[ucrdem]

63. Could be but what of it?

If the hall is dinky and divided so as to look bigger than yeah, there will be yuuuuuuge overflow crowds, or in this case, not so yuge.

[bjo59]

37. Wow. Just wow.

[Demsrule86]

76. She was there

Bernie is almost over...not surprising.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

82. No she wasn't.

And there is plenty of evidence to the contrary.

[virtualobserver]

122. the actual video tells a different story......why the need to spin if Bernie is "almost over"?

[virtualobserver]

8. This is a picture from inside the auditorium. it seats 1750 plus floor space

[ucrdem]

14. I think that's the Riverside event.

The thing is that even big venues can be subdivided into small spaces so it's always possible to produce crowds-waiting-to-get-in by simply renting small spaces. Incidentally the people waiting in the line at the Bernie event didn't realize that he wasn't in the stadium, as it isn't possible to see inside the stadium except from the point on the opposite side that I had seen when I first got there.

[virtualobserver]

18. This is a video from San Bernadino===looks pretty big to me---thousands

http://ktla.com/2016/05/24/clinton-sanders-attend-multiple-socal-campaign-events/#ooid=NtbnJwMzE6Hp5N9YiAVPLo1Wikvg9XRt

[ucrdem]

20. Bernies says "I'm here in Anaheim" and talks about Disney which is also in Anaheim.

But even there you can see the room dividers behind him, meaning they had to split the hall to make the crowd look bigger.

[virtualobserver]

21. you didn't look at the video at the top of the page -San Bernadino

[ucrdem]

23. There was a shot of the line at SB which looked like a few hundred.

And notice that "thousands" get tossed out very casually, with the suggestion that he spoke to thousands altogether, but no actual figures. And if spoke to 500 at each of four events, then I supposed thousands is accurate. But we're talking about crowds of a few hundred.

[virtualobserver]

24. the video begins with the large crowd inside at San Bernadino

[ucrdem]

25. Bernie says "here in Anaheim." They are different towns. nt

Okay I rewatched and the opening shot with the black room dividers is identified as SB. And that's about the size of the events center which is about the size of a large high school cafeteria. There are not 5,200 people in the that room.

[virtualobserver]

27. I shouldn't have to explain this to you....the video starts out LIVE in San Bernardino.....

showing the large crowd there. It is a live shot from Bernie's rally, but before he speaks

Then they show clips from earlier in the day from Bernie...in anaheim

I've added arrows to help you read the screen.

[ucrdem]

28. Beat ya.

Yes. But notice the room dividers use to make a smallish crowd appear bigger. And the fact is that the "Events Center" is a smallish exhibit hall in a local ballpark. The stadium itself wasn't used.

[virtualobserver]

31. it was still thousands

[ucrdem]

36. Count 'em.

[virtualobserver]

38. the video has shown that you grossly underestimated the number at the rally

and from the UCR photo, overestimated the number at Hillary's rally.

HillSPin

[ucrdem]

26. Yes I just discussed that but the point is that the venue is very modest and even then

then they apparently had to use room dividers to make it appear bigger:

[virtualobserver]

29. You said that there were 500 people there.....there were thousands....that is obvious

you said that there were 1000 people at Hillary's Riverside rally.



not likely

you are engaging in the fine art of HillSpin.

[ucrdem]

46. Count 'em.

[cui bono]

74. I applaud your patience. Especially since it is so undeserved.

[passiveporcupine]

67. wanting something badly doesn't make it happen

SAN BERNARDINO >> Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders brought his campaign of unity and diversity to a crowd of more than 5,200 supporters Tuesday at the National Orange Show Events Center.

http://www.sbsun.com/government-and-politics/20160524/election-2016-bernie-sanders-visits-san-bernardino

[ucrdem]

68. Yes it's been posted several times. I was there. It's ridiculously wrong. Sorry. nt

[passiveporcupine]

69. multiple news sources are reporting that it was about 5000

or 5200. Are you sure you are seeing things clearly?

I know that sometimes everyone tends to use the same news source, without verification...but I would be very surprised that all of his other events draw such large crowds, but for some reason this one didn't?

The Riverside auditorium was packed. Don't know how many it holds. The Anaheim event is not showing numbers that I can find yet.

I'm sure in the next few days more numbers will emerge.

[CorporatistNation]

105. San Bernadino... 5,000! TWO Examples... Empty ? WTF? ANOTHER LYING POST!

WOWWWW... DOES NOT SOUND LIKE 500 DOES IT? ANOTHER LYING DISINGENUOUS PROPAGANDA POST HERE... EMPTY STADIUM MY ASS!

[ucrdem]

106. So count the people in the video. Knock yourself out.

Here's the crowd outside:

[zentrum]

110. Actually

......you need a shot that shows the day this was taken, the time of day and both of those in relation to when Sanders was actually inside the venue. Was it hours before he spoke? You need the shot. Not just your assertion since there is so much evidence showing that you seem to be mistaken in your report.

Doesn't look like a shed. Yes, it's an ugly, quonset hut but looks like it could accommodate a few thousand easily. Usually "shed" conjures up a small space for storing tools, to most people. So, a little misleading noun choice there.

And the video indeed shows several thousand.

[Eric J in MN]

6. Video of the Berne Sanders rally in Riverside today

...seems better than the OP described.

Sanders starts around 1:18.

[ucrdem]

9. He was at Riverside earlier this afternoon.

Altogether I think he did 4 events today, so yes there's that.

[Eric J in MN]

13. So today he did a small event in Riverside

...and a big event in Riverside?

[ucrdem]

15. he did events in 4 towns today: Anaheim, Menefee (I think), Riverside, and San Bernardino.

I went to the SB event which was very modest. All told I imagine he's getting a lot of exposure but he's not reeling them in like he used to.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

83. This San Bernardino rally?

https://twitter.com/maxsingerinidy/status/735306670947983360

Looks pretty empty to me.....


This thread is hilarious.

[anotherproletariat]

10. Thanks for the report. Sounds like the what I heard from friends about Sanders'

San Jose rally last week.

[Txbluedog]

11. Sanders supporters won't believe you

But aloNg with my relatives accounts from yesterday, it looks like Bernie is speaking to over capacity crowds at small venues and claiming yuuuuuge rallies

[Maru Kitteh]

32. Maybe it was a yuuuuuuge quonset! Up next -

Yuuuuuge storage sheds!

[Surya Gayatri]

12. Enormous K & R. Thanks for posting.

[Skwmom]

16. This Newpapers says more than 5,200 attending. There were thousands more in Santa Monica.

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders brought his campaign of unity and diversity to a crowd of more than 5,200 supporters Tuesday at the National Orange Show Events Center.

Sanders took on Wall Street and corporations like Walmart, saying the middle class should not have to subsidize the wealthiest family in America, the Waltons, through the low wages paid to workers.

In a high-energy atmosphere, Sanders tackled topics such as poverty, living in a “rigged” economy and Social Security. He explained that America is not supposed to be a country where the top 1 percent own almost as much as the bottom 99 percent.

“Our message to Wall Street: They cannot have it all; this country belongs to all of us,” Sanders said.

Long lines of Sanders supporters waited hours to get inside and hear him talk about investing in young people, in jobs and education, not in jails or incarceration. He also pledged to overturn the “disastrous” Citizens United decision.

http://www.sbsun.com/government-and-politics/20160524/election-2016-bernie-sanders-visits-san-bernardino

[ucrdem]

19. Not what I saw. No way no how. "Events Center" = Exhibit hall at a local ballpark.

But there ya go. #BernieMath I guess.

[virtualobserver]

54. your credibility was gone once you estimated that rally at 500

of course your credibility had already been destroyed when you estimated the Hillary rally at 1000

Hillary only gets that kind of turnout when she holds rallies on Wall St.

[ucrdem]

56. So count them already.

thanks!

[virtualobserver]

60. thanks for the hillspin

[Maru Kitteh]

30. I LIKE IT! Great account of your day. As Skinner said, it'll soon be over and the BS will end.

[ucrdem]

34. Thanks!

It was a great day. Haven't seen this much political interest here in years!

[joshcryer]

40. Thanks for the nice post.

But I think you're mistaken about the crowd sizes. Sounds like you didn't even make it into the center, just outside where you could hear him speaking. So you can't really talk about how big it was.

[ucrdem]

42. LOL. I saw the building. It's a quonset hut in a local ball park.

And there were a couple of hundred at most waiting outside, thinking they couldn't get into a packed stadium. It turns out they couldn't get into a cafeteria-sized room that had been divided to make it seem bigger. That's kind of lousy.

[Hiraeth]

43. where are your pictures?

[virtualobserver]

44. they are in the world of pure imagination

[Hiraeth]

50. well, there is something to be blessed with a good imagination

[ucrdem]

45. In my phone.

Come on over!

[Hiraeth]

48. lol ... why don't you share with the rest of the class ... ?

silly boy

[ucrdem]

49. I might.

[Hiraeth]

53. well, wake me up when you post them. pretty late for an east coast gal

nite all

[ucrdem]

57. Will do.

TBH I've never done it as I usually use a real camera and I'm not an Apple guy but I'll figure it out. Night!

[joshcryer]

62. Just drag and drop the pics to imgur

http://imgur.com/

[ucrdem]

64. I do that in the phone?

thanks . . .

[joshcryer]

65. Ooh, not sure how on the phone.

You may have to install their app?

[ucrdem]

66. it looks like that might do it

If it doesn't it's still a good suggestion ... if worse comes to worse I think I have a cable somewhere and I can do it that way

Thanks Josh!

[Cha]

52. So you had fun!

[ucrdem]

55. Hill yes!!! At one point Hill mentioned the crowds outside

and said "I guess I should have found a bigger hall" so I yelled "you have to come back!"

Fortunately i was outside

But I had fun giving the protesters the smackdown and they had bullhorns!!

[Cha]

75. You bet you stood out.. "I guess I should have found a bigger hall" so I yelled "you have to come

back."

[leftinportland]

58. You lie...

Not sure what you are trying to pull here but clearly you are wrong.
http://www.sbsun.com/government-and-politics/20160524/election-2016-bernie-sanders-visits-san-bernardino

[ucrdem]

61. Covered that. 5,200 is pure Bernie math.

No idea what ear they pulled number that out of but it tells you a lot about those MILLIONS of fans we keep hearing about, doesn't it?

[ForgoTheConsequence]

84. Your post tells me a lot about Hillary supporters.

Hundreds of pictures proving you're making shit up and yet you still think you can fool people.....



https://twitter.com/maxsingerinidy/status/735306670947983360

[ucrdem]

86. Count the individuals in that photo and let me know when you get to 100. nt

[ForgoTheConsequence]

89. post more fake shit on the internet and let me know when someone falls for it.

We'll see who gets there first.

[frylock]

128. Just more gas-lighting and trolling.

[Kentonio]

70. Few things funnier than a Hill fan boasting about crowd sizes.

[ucrdem]

71. PICS: local Hillary and Bernie events, Tuesday March 24:

1. Hillary's event at the Johnson Family Practice Center, UC Riverside:



.......................................................................................
2. Bernie's event at the National Orange Show Event Center, San Bernardino:

[ForgoTheConsequence]

78. Those aren't Hillary supporters.

One is holding a sign that says "White Feminism is not feminism" and another is wearing a Bernie button. Nice try.

[zentrum]

107. Bernie Button

...right there on the screen. Hard to not think you got your events confused.

[ucrdem]

109. Who said they were all Hillary supporters?

[zentrum]

111. Oh Please

Supposed to show a Hillary event and it looks like a Bernie event.

Gives the impression that poster is passing off a Bernie crowd, as an HRC crowd.

No amount of verbiage will undo the evidence in the picture.

[bvf]

116. Nailed it. n/t

[Lodestar]

72. Well, apparently you missed the main event...

SAN BERNARDINO >> Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders brought his campaign of unity and diversity to a crowd of more than 5,200 supporters Tuesday at the National Orange Show Events Center. -- The Sun
http://www.sbsun.com/government-and-politics/20160524/bernie-sanders-visits-san-bernardino

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders told an enthusiastic Riverside crowd that political change requires struggle, but their efforts will help make the country a better place for everyone in it.
An estimated 3,000 people filled the Riverside Municipal Auditorium and more spilled onto the surrounding streets Tuesday afternoon, May 24, hoping to see or at least hear the Vermont senator, who also spoke in San Bernardino in the evening.

People began arriving before noon for the 2 p.m. rally, forming a line that snaked around three blocks. When organizers stopped letting people in around 1:30 p.m., some began pushing forward at the auditorium gate in hopes of getting inside, but they quickly became orderly again.
Those who didn’t get a spot inside the rally were told they could listen from loudspeakers outside or attend an evening rally at the National Orange Show in San Bernardino.

Before making his entrance in the auditorium, Sanders grabbed a microphone and stopped on the lower level to speak to supporters who weren’t able to get in.

Inside the main event, the crowd periodically chanted, “This is what democracy looks like,” and “Ber-nie! Ber-nie! Ber-nie!” while waiting for the speech to begin.

https://mng-lang.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumKey=H6Q9hW

[ForgoTheConsequence]

79. Great!

Now OP will crop out Bernie and claim that was a Hillary rally.

This might be one of the most pathetic bullshit threads I have seen on the internet in a long time. Might as well make a thread about the sky not existing and posting a picture of the ground to prove it.

[ucrdem]

88. Going by the reported numbers it was smaller than the SB event. nt

[cui bono]

73. Are you sure it was empty? Who threw the chairs then?

Come on. You are now posting as if you are climate change denier. Get a grip.

Where are the pics? Of course by now you could easily go and take pics of it when it actually is empty. So pics no longer suffice as evidence.

I guess we'll just have to believe the published reports then and not some anonymous Hillary supporter posting on a site known for making up outlandish smears against Bernie such as popegate, chairgate and abusivespousegate.

.

[AlbertCat]

112. You are now posting as if you are climate change denier. Get a grip.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Too funny, isn't it...


or is it too sad?

"Count the people" "Berniemath"
What a joke.

Misinfo from the misinformed.

[cui bono]

125. Sad, but true.

And guess what? Most of the jury agreed this was a lie but left it anyway. I should post the results I guess, except I might end up with the hide.

.

.

[peace13]

80. Did you experience any sniper fire while searching for Bernie?

[ForgoTheConsequence]

81. This reporter proves OP is making shit up....

https://twitter.com/JHWreporter


Lines wrapping around the block....

https://twitter.com/JHWreporter/status/735205255512612865

https://twitter.com/JHWreporter/status/735196563530600449

[nc4bo]

92. Makes sense, the Ministry of Propaganda stops showing Sanders rallies and "citizen reporters" pick u

The slack.

Smells Rovishly liaresque as is typical for anything related to, or associated with the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Liars gotta lie to change perception of reality.

[B Calm]

97. Bingo!

[ucrdem]

99. That was a different event, but from the pics, the attendance looks fairly modest. nt

[AlbertCat]

114. the attendance looks fairly modest.

And the Earth looks flat

And the sun looks like it moves around the flat Earth.


But it isn't and it doesn't.


No one's gonna believe a Hillary Supporter taking shots of of an empty parking lot way over there...when the event and crowd was behind them.... or a shot of 2 hours before anyone arrived.... or a shot of a crowd of Sanders supporters claiming it's of Hillary supporters... or whatever editorial sneaky ploy invented to deceive.

After all...she was voted "most untrustworthy".

[ForgoTheConsequence]

85. Hillary is packing them in!

[GreatGazoo]

87. Cool story but in reality...

[ucrdem]

90. Sacto was 2 weeks ago. Things change fast I guess. nt

[delrem]

91. Well urcdem, that sounds pretty damn pathetic.

But go for it.

The continued destruction of the ME depends on it.
To say nothing of cluster bomb sales, and a fracking lot of other fun things.

I bet you care about climate change, a concerned person like you.

[ucrdem]

94. If I wasn't concerned about climate change foreign policy the economy civil rights voting rights

education women's rights human rights children's rights and trade policy, I might have considered Sanders. But I doubt it.

[delrem]

96. You're concerned about electing Hillary Clinton. Be damned to "facts".

Be damned to her warmongering history and worse yet, her promises for more.
You just deny it and claim she promotes the opposite.
Be damned to the effect her warmongering and warmaking has had on women's and children's rights, in the countries she targeted. Fuck all of the hundreds of thousands dead, and FORGET them, because it's important to portray Hillary Rodham Clinton as a defender of their rights.
Be damned to her promotion of fracking. Sufficient for a Hillary Clinton supporter to say that she's "concerned about climate change", and to pretend to care. Pretend to give a god damn.

And my lord, on top of all that you promote the TPP.

You guys are as impressive as shit placed between two slices of wonderbread.

[ucrdem]

101. On the warmongering point, their records are identical, but Hillary is a better bet for peace.

She's miles ahead in terms of experience and knowledge, meaning she'll be in a much better position to negotiate, and Bernie's statements about destroying Isis are reckless and (to me) concerning. This is based on the second debate which focused on foreign policy and can be considered their official positions.

[delrem]

102. Hillary Clinton's record is unique.

And Hillary's supporters, who lie about this, have that blood on their hands just as surely as she does.

[bjo59]

126. As warmongers, their records are identical? Why on earth would you make this claim?

[islandmkl]

93. so, in essence, and disregarding your obvious misrepresentation(s) and stubborn denials...

the main thrust of this, which you could have said, but decided to say in another manner, was:

YOU COULDN'T GET IN THE BERNIE RALLY!!

hell, you were only in the line waiting to get into the overflow building (your 'quonset hut')....

but hey, who we going to believe....multiple news reports or your lyin' eyes....??

[ucrdem]

95. I got an earful, rest assured.

And that's a part of town where leaving a car unattended is not a good idea.

[firebrand80]

103. No, mine is bigger nt

[vintx]

104. lol

Do you feel better now? Didja get enough attaboys to make all your efforts worthwhile?



Keep dreaming hill fans. And enjoy the next five months

[kayakjohnny]

108. Well it's good that you are totally neutral between the two candidates.

It really helps eliminate the bias in your "reporting".

[LiberalAndProud]

113. It's so hard to know who to believe.

Really. I just don't know what to think.

[bvf]

115. Certainly not

the would-be James O'Keefe of the still photo.

This has got to be one of the most obvious bullshit OPs to appear here in a long while.

Thanks for the vid, LiberalAndProud.

[Tarc]

117. GJ fending off the naysayers here, looks like some of em got quite agitated

They're coming to grips with the fact that the Sandersmania is winding down.

[liberalnarb]

118. LOL, well thats not how it usually goes down.

Here's another


At the Bernie rally I attended in Philly we had 11 thousand people. The line took four hours to get into the building.

Hillary was able to hold a rally in a garage

[leftinportland]

120. Sanders rally started at 4 PM!

You arrive at 7pm! Nice one...now stop the lie...you were 3 hours late. Why you continue insisting on this lie and refuse to believe any video, photo and news reports as evidence that you are wrong explains a lot about Hillary and her supporters...you also refuse to believe she ever did anything wrong and the FBI is not investigating her.

[Goblinmonger]

121. You know it's bullshit like this that won't just go away after the convention?

Right? You are aware of that. When "unity time" comes, do you think people are just going to forget that you took pictures of a Sanders rally and said it was a Clinton rally so that you could make it look like nobody goes to Sanders rallies?

So when you are wondering why Sanders supporters don't just jump on the Clinton train and supporter her, it's bullshit like this. This is the reason.

[blackspade]

123. What a stupid thread.

[catnhatnh]

124. You must be the guy who saw the chair thrown....

You were there, it definitely happened, and unfortunately you didn't get a picture. Just like here-you went to both rallys, one was a capacity crowd and the other was a bust, and Damn the luck! No photos again. And by the random shot of a sports field I know you had a camera with you.

[JudyM]

132. There's a direct hit.

[ucrdem]

133. Riposte: the pics are in reply #71.

I posted them after the OP and they're rather large.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2047647

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127. Love your sign. thanks for post.