2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCornel West Doesn't Deserve a Say in the Democratic Party Platform
http://thedailybanter.com/2016/05/cornel-west-democratic-platform/From there, after a brief respite in which he seemed to embrace the candidate wholeheartedly, Cornel West began a kind of crusade against Obama from the left fringe. Now setting aside the fact that West has spent eight years comically raging against not only the standard-bearer for the Democratic party but one of the most effective and, yes, liberal Democratic presidents in the modern age of this country -- a fact which should make his appointment to the Democratic Platform Committee highly questionable -- there's the way he's raged that should disqualify him outright. It was just last year that West's criticism of Obama crescendoed with a comment that was both shocking and unforgivable. He had already accused the president of, as fellow black scholar Michael Eric Dyson referred to it, "political minstrelsy," as well calling him a "counterfeit" progressive and a "Rockefeller Republican in blackface," but in June of 2015 he went for broke.
During a live appearance on CNN, West claimed Obama had been "niggerized," with the exact quote being, "The first black president has become the first niggerized black president." When pressed by an obviously aghast Poppy Harlow, West elaborated: "A niggerized black person is a black person who is afraid and scared and intimidated when it comes to putting a spotlight on white supremacy and fighting against white supremacy." So regardless of Cornel West's status as a black man and an intellectual alleging to speak in academic terms, what you had was someone referring to the first black President of the United States using one of the most reprehensible racial slurs in the English language. It doesn't matter one bit what his twisted rationale was -- it was outrageous and disgraceful. It showed that West's personal obsession with Barack Obama had finally truly overwhelmed any good judgment he happened to have left.
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)That's all the qualification West needs.
brush
(53,741 posts)African American votes. What a stupid decision that was, and the Sanders camp wonders why they don't get black votes.
Hillary's lead is largely because of black voters rejecting Sanders/West.
Now he's on the platform committee. Guess he can't do too much damage there as the damage to Sanders' chances has already been done.
This does seem like a final swipe at Obama by Sanders though, who wanted to primary him, a sitting President, in 2012.
Why else would he appoint someone to the platform committee of the Democratic Party who has said the absolute most vile things that could be said of a black man, a black man who just happens to be the head of the Democratic Party.
Buzz cook
(2,471 posts)nt
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brush
(53,741 posts)We were not amused, or at Sanders' wish to primary a SITTING PRESIDENT the first black president, what an insult.
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brush
(53,741 posts)It was a reckless thing to say.
You already have the White House and you're talking about primarying.
That happened in 1980 with Kennedy primarying Carter and look what happened.
We got effin Reagan.
People remember stuff like that and vote accordingly.
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Remember him?
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)As only one of 15, his nefarious influence will be neutered.
"His beak will be shut", as the French say.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)makes Bernie look really bad.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)I think all Bernie's picks are terrific.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)ericson00
(2,707 posts)and I cannot wait to see the reaction when that happens!
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)ericson00
(2,707 posts)are in vetting right now...
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Each of the three submitters, Hillary, DWS and Bernie submitted a short list with Bernie having about 11 people. Those were vetted down to five with him being one of those.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)get thru with West, he'll wish he never met Bernie.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Time is on my side.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)like I said, people are just starting to peel the bark off West.
The big bad, "Israel Lobby" aka mass American support for Israel, is coming! D
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Like I said he was already vetted before being selected.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)Not holding my breath. They've had a target out for West for decades and haven't managed to do fuck-all to him in terms of damage...I think the "Israel Lobby" as you called it, has an inflated opinion of their authority, worth, and actual impact.
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ericson00
(2,707 posts)and look forward to it!
No political party in this country needs a hateful kook like Cornel West influencing anything, ever. Look what he said about Obama: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/06/22/cornel_west_on_obama_the_first_black_president_has_become_the_first_niggerized_black_president.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/22/cornel-west-barack-obama_n_3635614.html
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/cornel-west-obama-a-war-criminal-087702
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ericson00
(2,707 posts)rather than just a few outliers:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/121199/obama-weekly-job-approval-demographic-groups.aspx
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)I would not want most of them working on the party platform.
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Spacedog1973
(221 posts)Talking about 'IQ' s' like neither knows a thing about them, their history, use or meaning. Testing IQ in this day and age should never be done for anything other than what they were created for; children's educational need. 'Genius' level IQ is meaningless.
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kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)They're finding a link with scientists too. I've worked with mentally ill adults for many years and the bipolar individuals are almost always extremely bright.
Voc Rehab tests our adult clients if they are trying to get jobs through them to make sure they don't have any learning disabilities. In addition, if someone has developmental disabilities, they will be more likely to be able to get on disability.
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brush
(53,741 posts)Obama is very popular in the black community. West is very unpopular.
And if you were black you would know that.
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brush
(53,741 posts)Of course I'm not claiming to be a black intellectual (I mean, who goes around calling themselves a black intellectual), but Micheal Eric Dyson and MHP are not fans of West, just like, as I said, the rank and file black voters.
West is one of the reasons Sanders gets few black votes.
It's no secret. Why do you think this thread exists.
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brush
(53,741 posts)post. He also thought he was so much more intelligent than everyone else.
Hah! You go, you black intellectual you.
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Chan790
(20,176 posts)it's still less offensive than the inclusion of Tanden. West is a bigot...Tanden is a vocal advocate of anti-Democratic policy positions.
Which one is worse?
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)of his crap will end up in the platform.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)fake 'liberal' Democratic haters...he schills for money...nice choice Bernie...says much about you.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Keith Ellison is a much smarter, far less psychotically deranged and hate filled choice.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,867 posts)Please proceed Hillary supporters....
Number23
(24,544 posts)'Cause fighting with EVERYBODY is certainly something you Sanders folks like to do. Too bad all that "righteous" anger didn't translate better at the polls and ballot boxes.
I'd ask specifically what "mental illness" I said Corny had and what the "difference of opinion" was over that you apparently see even though I typed no such thing but that would give the impression that I was interested.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,867 posts)Did you forget what you posted already?
Number23
(24,544 posts)over that as though I'd psychologically diagnosed him and not just expressed an opinion.
But what do you call someone who pretends somebody said something just so they can fight over it? Do you get upset anytime anyone calls anyone deranged or just Corny?
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,867 posts)Just like when they called someone a racist term. Grow up.
Number23
(24,544 posts)in the book, "deranged" being one of the kinder ones.
Because surely this level of just and righteous anger is non-partisan, right? Grow up your damn self.
TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)they want everyone who criticizes Her Majesty to be thought of as mentally ill...real classy.
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ericson00
(2,707 posts)and anti-Semite Cornel West.
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ericson00
(2,707 posts)end of story-BDS is Anti-Semitism
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ericson00
(2,707 posts)that anti-Semitism's non-demise after Holocaust sympathy is all because of Israel, are against BDS.
There's a reason BDS is doing so miserably in America and Hillary Clinton is strongly against it.
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grossproffit
(5,591 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Your support for neoliberals makes you no better than Dick Cheney. You have no business on this site as anything but a disruptor if that's how you really feel. Or at least, if that's how you're told to pretend to feel.
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)If criticism of Obama means to not allow him participate that would exclude a lot of Democratic who have been quite nasty and disloyal to President Obama including as you know many who are super delegates.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)It's HATE.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)ericson00
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chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)The one qualification any of Sanders's picks needs is "Sanders picked them". Ditto Clinton's picks.
Still, for two inauguration tickets we could have avoided all this...
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)and I have made my concerns known. But I take the advice of my beloved President Obama. We're playing the long game her so if we have to eat some shit in the process so be it. The main goal is to turn DC completely BLUE so we can protect the agins we've made and finish what we started.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)And it doesn't surprise me in the least that Bernie and some of his supporters are too ignorant to understand why.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,867 posts)Please continue Hillary supporters.....
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)And is constantly criticizing Democrats and Obama in particular....I dislike West as should all liberals. Why am I not surprised Bernie picks this guy? Totally inappropriate.
TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)The absolute ignorance of this post is astonishing: West has critiqued Obama from the Left, not the Right, and has been a major part of the progressive movement for decades.
Your ignorance is astonishing.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)A man who openly race-shames our first black president, an outright narcissist, and a toxic figure in every setting, Brother Cornell seems like a sabotage move.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)is better than many.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)He has no representation among black Democrats. He is far to the left of almost all of them. Cornel has alienated them with his absurd over-the-top critiques of Obama.
Why does he, an individual representing no core Democratic constituency, have a role in determining platform?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)so he really belongs on the Green Party's platform committee.