I've been told Trump has clips from Hillarys speeches to wall st

[larkrake]

that he intends to use in ads. His ad against Bill was just creepy, but clips are as dangerous as Romney's foo-paa tape.

I hope this isnt true, but I can see his contacts on wall street could obtain that .

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Your concern is noted. nt

[larkrake]

2. I am genuinely concerned she could lose the general

[Renew Deal]

19. Is that why you made this story up?

[pinebox]

3. I wouldn't doubt it. Cruz's wife worked for Goldman-Sachs

Bad blood between them but they have a common enemy.
If Hillary is the nominee, this is going to be something off of reality tv. People will be so turned off the 2 of them......

[larkrake]

54. true, but this is a recent leak

[larkrake]

73. I think Cruz works for Cruz and is too much of a crud to care further about the election

Cruz has no sight or sound, time to scrape him off the bottom of our shoes

[oldandhappy]

4. It is going to be a filthy G.E.

I don't want to have to watch it! I am sure both sides have awful stuff on each other.

[larkrake]

6. You are probably right, I shudder to think. I think I will focus on state elections and

just shut both of them out. Thank god I quit my TV. The air waves will be full of sour milk and may generate despair in the ranks

[oldandhappy]

22. with you

Our local Dem club is focusing on local both in terms of time and money. And I am off MSM, beat decision of the year!!

[senz]

5. Well I wish he'd share a little sample

Would be interesting to know what a $250,000 speech sounds like.

[larkrake]

7. more of the same, only Repub leaning I suppose

[One Black Sheep]

15. Yep, same here.

I'm very interested to see what Hillary says in one of those quarter million dollar speeches, it surely must be something noteworthy, or if nothing else, halfway interesting.

Not sure why she is so resistant to release one of them either, why not even just one? Hell, let her pick the one she wants to share. I'm just really curious...

[larkrake]

42. She has always been secretive, having been abused in the past by Media, Congress,

Bill, friends turning, legal charges, investigations, ......

I understand why she is secretive, but it is just smart to release them. That is why the silly e-mail issue ballooned.

[Arkansas Granny]

8. I've been told the moon is made of green cheese.

[auntpurl]

31. +1

[stillwaiting]

9. If he does it shows he would rather face HRC than Bernie.

Like most Bernie supporters have believed throughout this primary for very obvious reasons.

He would have released them earlier to sabotage HRC if he wanted to go against Bernie. Especially if they show HRC saying things that have been reported to have been said to Wall Street.

[lagomorph777]

18. ^^^Bingo^^^

Trump is a pig, but he didn't get this far with poorly-timed dirty tricks. He knows exactly when to release the kraken.

[larkrake]

29. He is a master at timing. Unfortunate. Maybe he wont use it

but he loves drama

[lagomorph777]

33. Is it a coincidence your username is similar to "kraken"?

I think not....

[larkrake]

51. is it? It is a family name actually- never made sense to me. now I can imagine

that great graphic, thanx

[lagomorph777]

52. Oops - sorry.

[larkrake]

62. thats ok, does it mean Kraken? I would really like to know if it means anything

[lagomorph777]

64. I have no idea, but if it was my last name, I'd go with that.

[Spacedog1973]

35. What

He is a master at timing.

Example?

[JEB]

50. I think he meant master baiter.

[lagomorph777]

53. Bada-BOOM!

[larkrake]

63. He is good at baiting, even a master

[larkrake]

58. Love this!

[zappaman]

34. Yes, because he couldn't touch Bernie.

He has nothing to attack Bernie with cuz Bernie is perfect.
Which is why he is winning the Democratic nomination!!!

[larkrake]

57. interesting theory

It would be so hard for him to find dirt on Bernie, he would just red-bait him. Hillary is a smorgasboard he could bloviate about, but picking "ENABLER" was just a bad idea, appealing only to bible thumpers and weak women. Hopefully the ad manager will screw up any Hillary clips they have too

[JudyM]

61. +1. We can only hope that if he has them she will get him angry enough to let em go before

the Convention so the party will still have a chance to win in November.

[larkrake]

75. She is smart enough to do that- citing his bankrupsys is brilliant

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just keep poking him with what triggers him- his hair, his hands, his failures. Maybe he will have a coronary and we will end up with Jeb Bush. He has as much baggage as Hillary, that would be a win for her.

[Renew Deal]

10. Who told you this?

[larkrake]

24. I have a friend of the advertising agent T is using. He splices video

for a living and is now researching for a contract job out of country. He is scared T will get an upperhand using his bluster at the right time in the election. He asked me for my Australian contacts saying it is the only continent he will feel safe in if T is elected. I will probably follow his lead

[floppyboo]

55. they still splice tape? Isn't it all digital today?

Or maybe they hang onto old terms for editing?

[larkrake]

65. he calls it splicing when he takes chosen clips, its probably his langage habit

as he is in his 40s

[Codeine]

74. Cool story, bro. nt

[boston bean]

11. Did a little birdie land on a podium and whisper this in your ear?

[oasis]

12. If you were told by someone here at DU, take it to the bank.

[larkrake]

28. I'm a scientist, I require proof, not rumor

[sufrommich]

13. You've been told by who?

?1319478951

[cali]

14. Told by whom

[MineralMan]

16. You've been told?

By whom? Who told you? See, unattributed "sayings" are worthless.

So, fill us in on who said that to you, please.

[B Calm]

17. October Surprise?

[jcgoldie]

20. Haha

This is so ridiculous. Pretty sure most republicans or independents for that matter aren't going to give a rats ass if Hillary is tight with Wall Street... that's a liberal talking point.

[larkrake]

25. Indies do care, thats why they are Indies. Most Indies are liberal

[betsuni]

21. OMG OMG OMG *lights hair on fire and passes out*

Romney vs. Clinton, whose foo-paa are more badder?!! It is like Mothra and Godzilla; they is battling MONSTERS (I hope this isnt true). I are sure Hillary is most worst!111

[larkrake]

43. No, Romney is far worse, he is a vulture

[Orsino]

23. If Trump says he does, you can bank on its not being so.

I could well believe that there is some video out there, though, despite Clinton's mania for secrecy.

[larkrake]

37. My first thought was "damn", then "would Trump poke a wolverine?" then

I thought if I paid that much for 3 speeches, then I would certainly tape them. They liked the first speech so much they paid for 2 more? Hillary is very good at saying what her audience wants to hear, so those tapes have to have the potential to cause trouble. They are out there and it would take one disgruntled employee, or Hillary hater to sell them to her enemy, for a price.

My source is not a paranoid fellow, but he is scared and not his humorous self.

I dont have to see tape or read transcripts to know they are damning. Of course, her followers will forgive and forget or disbelieve, but they are only 12 million out of what? 140 million registered voters in this country?

I dont think Trump has said anything about this publicly, which worrys me. When will he use it?

[Orsino]

38. Clinton's contract specifically forbade recording...

...or transcription by any other party.

However, this is the age of the camera phone. There were many attendees, any one of whom might have captured at least some crappy audio.

[larkrake]

46. wall street isnt a party, and they do as they damn well please

I dont believe they follow any contract rules and Hillary would never sue Goldman. I also doubt a CEO would leak a tape. They want her in the whitehouse- it had to be a subjugate employee bribed by a Trump agent. People get fired every day from these banks.

[imagine2015]

26. If true that would clinch the election for Trump and bigger Republican majorities in Congress

[larkrake]

39. Would it effect Congress? Not if we do our jobs at our state levels

Research your republican Reps and senators, and expose them now, boost your dem official in state, and change Congress for the better

[Beausoir]

27. Oh noooooo!

OMG. We're dooooomed.

[Tarc]

30. "I've been told..."

[larkrake]

47. luv you Jon

[zappaman]

32. Well, if you were told that, it must be true!!!

This is very concerning!

[CincyDem]

36. This has always been a possibility...

Think about this from a probability point of view.

We know HRC was a speaker for GS. What are the odds that one or several of those speeches was officially recorded? My guess is pretty high since corporations look at things like this as "assets" to be used for other purposes within the firm at a future date. Maybe with another group of managers, maybe in another geography...whatever...just used again.

So, high odds there are videos.

What are the odds there is passage in those videos that can be carved out of context and presented as HRC's "47%" moment. My guess is pretty high, especially in the hands of such a$$hats as Roger Stone. I'm sure that in the context of her entire message, her comments will be benign but cut and paste messaging could make anyone sound bad.

So, high odds there are videos and high odds that there is a 10 second out of context sound bite that will sound pretty bad.

What are the odds that the Roger Stone's of the world will find someone willing to pay any price for a copy of that tape. My guess is that these tapes will be the hottest commodity of the general election season (unless someone has photos of Trump in a compromising position with a doberman - oh that we be so lucky...lol).

So, high odds there's a 10 second cut from these videos that ends up in a Trump or PAC ad going into November.

I don't know if this turns into October surprise but if anyone is going to dump this pile of BS out in the street and try to make a story of it...it's Trump. Unfortunately, the way it's been handled by the campaign leaves this as the only potential piece of meat in the chitstorm he's going to be peddling.

I voted to Bernie in the Ohio Primary and I fully intend to vote for HRC in the general (as well as very downticket D I can find). My biggest regret of the primary season is NOT that Bernie has run out of steam. It is that HRC didn't dump these tapes out at midnight on that debate night when the question was raised. By this time...whatever quote cutting that could be done would be old old news.

Instead, it's like trying to hold a fart in while riding the elevator up the Empire State Building. It's a long way to the top and you know you're going to lose the fight with mother nature around the 87th floor...and nobody has anywhere to hide.

In the end (i.e. the morning of 11/9/16) she wins but it's going to be so f'ing ugly along the way.

[larkrake]

40. I'm in total agreement, clips can be so misleading and the public

believes them.

It is going to be ugly and farcical. Even when she wins, damage will be done

[Dem2]

41. I love all this concern

I wonder if anybody has any idea what can be unleashed against the sleazy womanizing mobster who pretended to be his own image agent and is ready to re-start torture and says he has no reservations to using nuclear weapons. Oh, and he has "small hands"

[CincyDem]

44. I'm sure there's a Yuuuge can of whoop-ass waiting for him.

The issue, however, is if that whoop-ass will be consistent with his "brand". Suppose we find out that he took some zoning officials from Chicago to the Bahama's to get zoning variances for his new building on the river.

His response - "yeah. BFD, that's how ya gotta do bidness in Chicago"...and he blames the system for forcing him to bribe those guys. From an image point of view, it just reinforces the idea that we have to change the system. And besides, unless he's actually convicted...it's not going to stick with his voters. I don't think he was exaggerating when he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and it wouldn't hurt his image. It's sort of like "dog bites man" news.

On the other hand, if we find out that HRC used 49 cent stamps on a postcard in 1996...we're going to have a f'ing congressional investigation into her "wastefulness".

It's bullchit but when you think about "unleashing" anything on Trump consider this - whatever we discover about Trump that most "normal" people would find appalling - his supporters will look at it like finding out there were naked pictures in Playboy...what the heck did you expect, it's part of the brand.

I have confidence there are enough "normal" people in America. I just hope to god they get out and vote.

[larkrake]

48. So very true. He only attracts the very angry, the put upon , the reactive, the "under educated,

nazis, rednecks, frustrated, jocks, wall streeters, the 1%, the hopeless republicans, wall street, special interests, 10% of indies,and most repug women, Clinton haters who lack good sense, the foolish, the careless,

Hillary has in her corner 12 million, and roughly 10% of indies that will hold their noses. this includes latinos, AAs and loyal women, maybe 80% of Bernie folk, a smattering of republicans

So far her team hasnt thrown any crap that sticks to Trump- I dont think his people care. They know he is a CEO, and cheer his loonacy. Will they wake up? We best pray so

[procon]

45. I've been told the Lizard Overlords are plotting to take over the world. nt

[larkrake]

49. grow up, this is a real possibility in the digital world

[procon]

68. People drive themselves crazy speculating on what's 'possible'... looks like a short trip. nt

[JRLeft]

56. You believe that liar?

[larkrake]

59. try reading replys.

[arely staircase]

60. So? Who cares? NT

[larkrake]

67. I'm sorry you dont care- but alot of people dont

[arely staircase]

69. (Virtually) nobody gives a shit.

I mean seriously, I am guessing a Clinton speech to a bunch of Wall St. is the most yawn inducing 45 minutes or so that one could endure.

[larkrake]

72. Hillary voters dont care, nor should they. It has to be boring, I agree

nor were e-mails, and they bore me and anyone with a brain

[Sheepshank]

66. He also said he had really damning evidence against Obama's Birth in Hawaii

...he repeated it over and over...and *nothing*

He throws things out there all the time.

[larkrake]

71. Trump has not claimed he has these clips

and I too would be bored by them, but those on the fence just need a nudge

[larkrake]

70. I have to go to work now, will check in at midnight to reply

I admire the diversity in DU

[underthematrix]

76. He had President Obama's REAL birth certificate too

[riversedge]

77. I've been told that boogymen will get you.

[pdsimdars]

78. I tried to post a quote someone put up that was supposedly from one of her speeches.

It was a long sentence, there was no link, but they banned it. It was DAMNING. She was basically calling us stupid and glad that they had elites like them to steer the country in the right direction.
Call that my fantasy, but that is what someone posted on twitter and I put the picture up here and it got banned.

[wyldwolf]

79. Cool story bro

[seabeyond]

80. I imagine she will use those speeches in GE and there will be nothing to see. As much as you all

want a gotcha. Your candidate can't win on his own so it has to be the emails or transcripts. Really pathetic.