Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.....

[pinebox]

Please someone make it stop.
She is pro death penalty and voted for Iraq..../facepalm
Then there's this...
Barack Obama accused Clinton of flip-flops on torture: Obama is right. In an interview with the New York Daily News in October 2006, Clinton condoned torture, saying, “In the event we were ever confronted with having to interrogate a detainee with knowledge of an imminent threat to millions of Americans, then the decision to depart from standard international practices must be made by the President. That very, very narrow exception within very, very limited circumstances is better than blasting a big hole in our entire law.“
But in a debate in New Hampshire last month, Sen. Clinton shifted her position, when offered a similar ticking time bomb case, responding, ”As a matter of policy, torture cannot be American policy, period.“ To our ears, that sounds like a reversal.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Homeland_Security.htm

[Ash_F]

1. Anyone know where she stood during the enhanced interrogation fiasco?

I think she was in the senate at that time.

[pinebox]

2. There's a good question

[NWCorona]

3. Well she voted for the Patriot act and that opened the door for enhanced interrogation.

[pinebox]

4. Found it and updating my post.

[emsimon33]

5. K&R

[BootinUp]

6. Its not that hard to explain. Some of us were paying attention when the

US right wing stirred up Americans into a state of fear everyday, after 911. There was a time there where a Senator depending on what state they were representing had to walk a tightrope. So what her first statement meant was, she was against making it US policy allow enhanced interrogations, but she allowed that the executive branch could be required to use certain techniques in the most dire situations. What she meant is she didn't agree with what the Bush administration was known to be doing at the time. She took a position against Bush plain and simple Sounding different to our ears is a stupid way to evaluate it, the question is whether she agreed with the Bush administration or not. The answer is NOT.

[fun n serious]

7. I remember.

We had daily color codes. Red, orange and yellow.. Level of danger...

[pinebox]

9. She is a complete hypocrite and nothing but

All of us were paying attention and sorry but as far as torture goes, Obama was correct.
The first statement is what it is, nothing more, nothing less, she supported torture.

[Sivart]

18. So, she didnt agree with Bush specifically, BUT

But she believes that in dire situations, it should be up to the president to decide to use torture or not.

This is clearly a position that supports the option to use torture.

I also think is laughable how you are calling it certain techniques instead of torture. You sound like dick fucking cheney. Its torture.

[BootinUp]

19. It was politically calculated, and politically smart. nt

[stillwaiting]

8. I agree with what HRC said about Trump.

I also agree with what Trump said about Clinton.

She has God-awful judgment and is not fit to serve as President.

It is going to be a long, long 4 years if one of them becomes President.

[pinebox]

10. This whole thing is like a crazy merry go round

[Tarc]

11. Since Sanders has no chance at all to be the nominee, what exactly is the goal of this post?

[pinebox]

12. To drive you crazy of course Tarc! XD

Don't you know that? /sarcasm.

[Tarc]

14. It's a legitimate question

A few months ago, one could say it was just a part of the process, trying to get Bernie elected. But you have to know, in your deepest heart of hearts, that he can't carry CA and NJ at 66% or so, right?

This is like the stories this week of Bernie sending funds downstream to Democratic candidates for office. Great, wonderful...but these are people trying to primary incumbent Dems, like your favorite bugaboo DWS.

What this comes across as to outside observers is scorched-earth bitterness.

[pinebox]

15. Tarc Tarc Tarc

I don't have to answer to you You know this.

If you'd like to know though, I'll throw you a bone.

Bitterness? Yeah I can't stand Hillary. I lost 3 friends in Iraq because she voted for it. I've seen friends suffer under Bill when he redid welfare reform. I don't trust her and never have. Sorry but she is not to be trusted just like most of America sees her and the latest thing with the emails? It says it all. She outright lied about it. There is NOTHING Hillary can do to change her image. America sees her for who see is.

People are suffering in this country. Big time. Hillary's policies do NOTHING to help those people. It's the status quo to continue the pain and misery for millions. So there you go. Along with this;

[Tarc]

16. "I lost 3 friends in Iraq because she voted for it"

So did Bernie, boxy.

[pinebox]

17. Tarc, it's not fucking funny

at all.
Bernie didn't vote to go war with Iraq. We all know that. So please, you can stop the spin already. Obama didn't vote for it either.
Who is the odd duck out who has bad judgement? Hillary.

Why are you supporting someone who has been wrong so many times?

[Tarc]

20. Your St. Bernie voted to fund it

Same difference.

Again, I ask; what is the point of all this? You know he has no path to the nomination.

[pinebox]

21. Not the same is it

Our troops should always be protected. Period. Iraq was wrong and you're equating what Bernie did to a vote for an illegal war.
Actually I disagree with you. I fight for what's right and stand by Bernie and other progressives, whether they're Dem, Green or Indy. People > party.

[NCTraveler]

13. Hillary Hillary Hillary

Let's work together and send Trump home crying.

Hillary Hillary Hillary!!!!!