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RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:34 AM May 2016

Dems worry DNC chair 'too toxic' after Sanders blast

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/25/politics/debbie-wasserman-schultz-democrats-clinton-sanders/index.html?ncid=newsltushpmg00000003

(CNN)Democratic senators are discussing whether Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz should be removed as the head of the party because she has become "too toxic" in the ongoing Democratic civil war.

"There is a lot of sentiment that replacing her would be a good idea. It is being discussed quietly among Democratic senators on the floor, in the cloakroom and in lunches," a senior Senate Democratic source told CNN on condition of anonymity to discuss private talks among lawmakers.
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Dems worry DNC chair 'too toxic' after Sanders blast (Original Post) RKP5637 May 2016 OP
Senate Democrats: We'll replace her AFTER she's completed the job/the damage is done. Skwmom May 2016 #1
"I know I just punched you in the face over and over, but I said I was sorry." pengu May 2016 #2
Exactly. This whole campaign has been an exercise in abuse, imo. polly7 May 2016 #19
what's the name of that guy, the captain on the Titanic? islandmkl May 2016 #3
Titanic captain went down with his ship. hedda_foil May 2016 #8
She's served her "finger on the scale" purpose... Raster May 2016 #4
Of course, after she's handed the GOP yet another round of overwhelming Repub victories brentspeak May 2016 #11
Exactly. nt LWolf May 2016 #18
I'm afraid you are right. Betty Karlson May 2016 #31
I thought it was Clinton's decision on the chair?! fun n serious May 2016 #5
This is totally wrong, I deleted it. RKP5637 May 2016 #6
I think the nominee of the distric picks the chair. fun n serious May 2016 #7
Please see post #12, it seems this is the way it works. I'm deleting my earlier reply, it was RKP5637 May 2016 #13
That's wrong. It's not saying government role. Gets no confirmation vote from Senate. hedda_foil May 2016 #10
Thanks, below is apparently the process. RKP5637 May 2016 #12
Well she's not the nominee yet MadBadger May 2016 #9
So losing all those seats MuseRider May 2016 #14
She truly is horrible Cosmocat May 2016 #15
She is just truly incompetent. And if one ignores the current primaries, she was incompetent RKP5637 May 2016 #17
YEP Cosmocat May 2016 #20
It's so strange, often like they want to lose. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #16
Seems to me MuseRider May 2016 #21
I strongly feel Bernie is one of the good people in life. We need some drastic changes in this RKP5637 May 2016 #22
I agree MuseRider May 2016 #23
Be safe! I hope you're well out of the way of the Tornadoes that have been visiting Kansas! RKP5637 May 2016 #26
Just East of the Tornado Watch MuseRider May 2016 #27
Haven't we gotten WAY PAST the "talk" part. . . let's see the ACTION. Talk schmalk. pdsimdars May 2016 #24
IMO that will be a long wait with the entrenched PTB we have. So sad. n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #25
Replacement when she's already leaving? Xyzse May 2016 #28
Are they expecting trouble at the convention? B Calm May 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #30

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
1. Senate Democrats: We'll replace her AFTER she's completed the job/the damage is done.
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:40 AM
May 2016

This type of thinking is a prime example of the utter brilliance of our Democratic Senators

Of course, we all know that smarts isn't the key criteria for becoming a Washington Democrat or Republican.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
19. Exactly. This whole campaign has been an exercise in abuse, imo.
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:25 AM
May 2016

But ........ too bad, it's nearly over! (Fuck the damage it's left - typical, also).

Raster

(20,998 posts)
4. She's served her "finger on the scale" purpose...
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:00 AM
May 2016

...every possible fluxuation and gyration has been for Clinton. I suspect she was part of the "Clinton package" President Obama agreed to.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
11. Of course, after she's handed the GOP yet another round of overwhelming Repub victories
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:58 AM
May 2016

at the federal, state, and local legislative levels. 2012 landslide wins for the GOP were just the beginning.

Not coincidentally, the "Democrats" on this site who had been defending DWS also happened to be the most RW ones.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
31. I'm afraid you are right.
Wed May 25, 2016, 06:08 PM
May 2016

And that is why this single act of removing a DINO from a leadership position will not placate anyone: it will be too little, way too late.

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
13. Please see post #12, it seems this is the way it works. I'm deleting my earlier reply, it was
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:06 AM
May 2016

so wrong. Thanks!

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
10. That's wrong. It's not saying government role. Gets no confirmation vote from Senate.
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:53 AM
May 2016

If there's a sitting Dem president, s/he gets to name the head of the party. Otherwise, it's whoever holds power inside th he party. That was Bill Clinton when Bush the Least was president.

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
12. Thanks, below is apparently the process.
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:04 AM
May 2016

The Voting Process

On February 12, 2005, the members of the Democratic National Committee will elect a new Chairman by majority vote. If upon the first three ballots, there is no majority, the candidate with the fewest number of votes will be dropped from the ballot, and a new vote held. This will be repeated until there is a majority choice for Chair.

Who are the DNC Members?

There are 441 votes in the Democratic National Committee, split among 446 members. The goal of the membership makeup of the DNC is to have a representative sample of the members of the Democratic Party from the grassroots, local, state, and Federal level, as well as its various constituents such as labor, women, and minority groups. There are 200 state party members elected by state committees, conventions, and straight votes, depending on the state. Every state party chair has a vote, as well as the highest ranking member of the state party who is of the opposite sex as the state party chair. There are also 75 at large members chosen by appointment, as well as reprentatives from party organs like the House and Senate Conferences, Mayors, AGs, etc. According to the Charter, there is mandated gender balance within the Democratic National Committee, and among representatives from states and party organs.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/8/84345/-

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
14. So losing all those seats
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:11 AM
May 2016

in the House and Senate and all those Governorships did not show them anything but angry "Bernie Bros" woke them up?

What kind of a lesson is there in this statement? They should be careful with this. I fail to understand what their fears actually are.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
15. She truly is horrible
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:14 AM
May 2016

for the position.

Whatever gets them to move past their stasis to doing something about her ...

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
17. She is just truly incompetent. And if one ignores the current primaries, she was incompetent
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:23 AM
May 2016

before this current fracas.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
21. Seems to me
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:01 PM
May 2016

that nothing has made them reconsider her until now. Does this mean that are actively OK with losing seats to R's but not to Bernie? Does this mean that they will sit back and let her handle things as we lose and lose and lose but only yelling and anger will stimulate them to rethink? Do they not understand that the people who do believe in anger, disruption and perhaps violence will see that this is what actually motivated the party to "reconsider"? This is not a good plan. With things as desperate as they are for some people, many people actually, this kind of behavior could rapidly get way beyond control yet this is the only thing they have responded to.

*I do not believe violence and violent behavior or language is part of the Bernie campaign. I believe if they are supporters they are few among many. Who knows where they come from or who might have put them there. All the Bernie activities I have been to and my friends across the country have been to have been peaceful and no hint of becoming violent has been made from supporters or the campaign itself.

How is it going?



RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
22. I strongly feel Bernie is one of the good people in life. We need some drastic changes in this
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:33 PM
May 2016

country. I feel that Hillary will keep the status quo. I said that in the Hillary group and they kicked me out! I was saying that in comparison to a Trump presidency. DWS runs the party by conflicts and divisional behavior IMO which will continue to fracture the democratic party and make it weak, especially for the GE. In years past the democratic party would have captured many of the Trump supporters that feel they have been screwed in life by the current/past system. IMO the democratic party is failing all over the place and I do fear what 2016 might bring.

She should be working to bond the party together while still having primaries. I feel she has run an extremely unfair primary and I say that relative to all candidates that might have been interested in running as the democratic nominee. It was clear it was biased from day one, and that is quite poor.

I feel a lot better, but I do think back on Kansas. It's a wonderful state and I found many people quite nice and still correspond with my neighbors. Brownback has demonstrated what he is made of, that is excellent.

See you later,

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
23. I agree
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

on all of it.

Brownback will be replaced by another much like him I fear. There are a couple of possible Democrat contenders but apparently the Dems in control here believe in trying what does not work over and over again. Wait for it....

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
27. Just East of the Tornado Watch
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

so likely fine. We have had only one warning so far this year. At least the drought is over.

Thanks.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
28. Replacement when she's already leaving?
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

Seems to me, they're making a show of considering this now since they don't have to do a damn thing any way since her term limit is up.

Saying they're considering this as a means to throw a bone towards people that don't like her, particularly Bernie supporters just looks contrived.

She is the author of the doom and gloom campaign back in 2012, soliciting donations by trying to scare us with what the republicans are doing. With subject lines like "it's all over" is just such a cynical and losing campaign. One which, I don't think they learned anything from.

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