2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFlashback: The State Dept didn't have a permanent IG during her entire tenure as SoS
"Inspectors General uncover waste, fraud and mismanagement in federal agencies. The State Department didnt have an official one while Hillary Clinton worked there.
One of the many unanswered questions of the Hillary Clinton e-mail story has been: Whose job was it to raise and address concerns about her exclusive use of a private account? According to open government advocates, it would have been the agencys permanent, independent Inspector Generalsomeone nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senateif such a person had existed.
For five years, including all of Clintons time as secretary, the State Departments Office of Inspector General never had a confirmed inspector. Instead, it was lead by acting inspector Harold W. Geisel, a former ambassador who was accused of being too cozy to agency leadership by transparency groups like the Project on Government Oversight. Throughout the first half of President Obamas first term, the absence of a State Department Inspector General while internal scandals and Benghazi rocked the department drew bipartisan criticism.
For no one to raise concerns, its almost impossible to believe, said Danielle Brian, the executive director for POGO.
It seems like a really boring issue, but this is why its not, Brian said. These are people who
were in a position to have received tips or created a sense of there being accountability on these matters. But those vacancies scream essentially that theres nobody whose really interested in making sure that someone is a junkyard dog in those agencies, looking for these kinds of problems.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-03-24/one-more-question-on-hillary-e-mails-where-was-the-watchdog-
Not having an IG would be critical to Hillary's off the books server.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)David Gregory was on the panel. His wife represents Hillary's aides in the FBI investigation.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)They all have been scathing to say the least.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)I remember that about the only reference to that relationship was buried in an article where the lead was that 4 Clinton aides hired the same lawyer, which essentially allows her to see what each says and could help if they are trying to stay on the same page. In the midst of the article it offhandedly mentions she was married to Gregory.
(I first saw it when it was highlighted here.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Is that Huma has retained her own attorney. That was very interesting.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)give him credit for at least that
karynnj
(59,503 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)was that part of the bargain he made with her in 2008?
I do NOT want him involved. But she will drag him down if she thinks it helps her.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I think Obama let Hillary do herself in somewhat. He tried to get her to use Gov email then made an executive order baring private servers and she still kept on using it. The Obama's didn't get to where they are by being weak and that's why I don't think Obama will block the DOJ. Especially when his right hand man is positioned to take Hillary's delegates.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I'm saying that Obama, not necessarily him, tried to get her to play by the rules. Over and over again but she refused. That is disrespectful to say the least and then to add her cheating on Obama with Sid... The fact that Biden is laying in the cut is just an added bonus for the Obama's.
panader0
(25,816 posts)karynnj
(59,503 posts)His response was that he had suggested names to the WH and they were doing the vetting and he hoped to be able to announce a nomination. By September 2013, the current IG was confirmed.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)However, having no inspector will probably play in the FBI's assessments.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Is it normal that any SoS has the power to block the State Dept. from having an IG?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)karynnj
(59,503 posts)far more ability to select the higher level SD people.
Note that in 2015, Blinken was named as the deputy SoS -- and many accounts said that Kerry had backed Wendy Sherman, although he praised Blinken when he was named. The point being that Obama did give HRC a lot of latitude. I suspect that it may be decades, if ever, that we really understand the dynamics between Obama and the two Clintons.
polly7
(20,582 posts)more difficult.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)was Obama's. Even if Obama ceded power to get an agreement that aligned the Clintons' interests with Obama's - to insure that he did not have to worry about them as a separate Democratic power that could have made things harder for him, it was still officially HIS power. She worked for him and to quote Truman - the buck stops with him.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)Truth is much more amazing than fiction, any day.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Kerry had one appointed quickly!
Demsrule86
(68,565 posts)The original one came from a media matters report back in march...so much BS.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)He said the SOS was responsible for knowing the rules and that in such a high position, not knowing the rules was not an excuse. Something about being in the top ten security positions in the the country and the lineage to the President. It is weird that the job of IG went unfilled. Sorry I don't remember the person's name. This was probably a month ago.
frylock
(34,825 posts)on identification and handling of classified communications during her tenure at State. Again, this was mandatory training that requires recertification on an annual basis.
peace13
(11,076 posts)Looks like she thought she made her own rules. No surprise there.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Once you apply that bit of obvious logic, the rest of this article is seen in context as pretty silly.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Besides Google Harold W. Geisel and see what you come up with.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)"Ambassador Geisel has more than 20 years experience in senior management with the Department of State. He joined the Department in 1972, completing tours as management or administrative officer in Brussels, Oslo, Bern, and Bamako, and as Consul General in Durban, South Africa. From 1986 to 1993, he served as management counselor at U.S. Embassies in Rome, Bonn, and Moscow. He returned to the Department in 1993 as Executive Assistant to the Under Secretary of State for Management, where he supervised the creation of a worldwide process for allocating information technology resources."
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)"Mr. Geisel was not eligible to be the inspector general because of an explicit, congressionally mandated safeguard for IG independence that rules out "a career member of the Foreign Service" from ever being "appointed Inspector General of the Department of State.""
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324063304578520952503319368
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)No one in congress before or after this administration saw any serious issue.
Any kind of nonsense you bring up is negated by inconvenient facts like that.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Then won't all this speculation look premature.