Hillary Clinton’s Emails Are ‘Really A Concern,’ ‘Also A Felony,’ According To A Memo Addressed To..

[Purveyor]

Hillary Clinton’s Emails Are ‘Really A Concern,’ ‘Also A Felony,’ According To A Memo Addressed To President Obama From Senior Intelligence Officials

May 25, 2016
By Kim McLendon

Hillary Clinton’s email is a huge deal, despite what the pundits might tell their viewers. Fourteen high-ranking U.S. intelligence veterans signed a memo addressed directly to the president of the United States, urging him to take prompt action on the situation because the public has a right to know how serious the matter really is.

“By all indications, the FBI is slow-walking the investigation and mainstream media are soft-pedaling the issue. As things now stand, most Americans remain unaware of the import of this industrial-scale compromise of very sensitive national security information in Secretary Clinton’s emails.”

Hillary Clinton’s situation is really quite ominous. A lengthy document posted to the Global Research site by the authors of the memo gives the most detailed and expert information yet available on the nature of Hillary’s situation with the FBI. It seems the group, who refer to themselves as Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, is demanding more timely action on Senator Clinton’s case.

“Your White House has also made excuses for deliberate security violations by Secretary Clinton that would have gotten senior officials like us fired and probably indicted. We look with suspicion at what we see as contrasting and totally inappropriate attempts by the administration and media to play down the importance of Secretary Clinton’s deliberate disregard of basic security instructions and procedures.”

Hillary Clinton’s high-profile position is the only thing saving her from years of prison time, according to the memo. The senior officials remind the president they have 400 years of experience in working with classified information between the 14 of them. They know exactly how serious the situation is. Intelligence officials have been imprisoned for less. The memo states that an official named Jeffrey Sterling is serving three and a half years, and he was convicted with far less evidence than what the FBI has on Hillary.

“The contrast between the copious evidence – some of it self-admitted – of Secretary Clinton’s demonstrable infractions, on the one hand, and the very sketchy, circumstantial evidence used to convict and imprison Jeffrey Sterling, on the other, lend weight to the suspicion that there is one law for the rich and powerful in the United States and another for the rest of us.”

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/3131237/hillary-clintons-emails-are-really-a-concern-also-a-felony-according-to-a-memo-addressed-to-president-obama-from-senior-intelligence-officials/#GUd63kUI4OiJXyzE.99

[aspirant]

1. How many felonies is that now?

[BainsBane]

4. None

She has been convicted of nothing.

[yodermon]

6. and what a fantastic campaign slogan that is. n/t

[Karmadillo]

9. "I am not a felon--at least not yet." Too long for a bumper sticker?

[Bob41213]

17. "I have always tried not to be a felon"

[BainsBane]

14. If you want to talk about legal violations

Sanders has racked up thousands of violations of campaign finance law. That's not even up to debate. He's been cited by the FEC on four separate occasions. And that relates to an issue he has made central to his campaign!

[yodermon]

20. wtf does Bernie have to do with this? He's done. done. kaput.

All over but the crying. Why even bring him up.

TRUMP is who I'm worried about. He will fucking POUND her on this. You think the BernieBros were bad for this, with "timelines" and shit? ha ha ha, you ain't seen nothing yet.

[BainsBane]

25. Oh, I see

So you're supporting Calling Clinton a felon, not in order to promote Bernie but out of grave concern for the Democratic Party's general election prospects?

Well, if the goal is to engage in Trump-level discussion of these issues, this is certainly a good primer.

[frylock]

26. Obama Campaign Fined Big for Hiding Donors, Keeping Illegal Donations

Barack Obama's presidential campaign has been fined $375,000 by the Federal Election Commission for violating federal disclosure laws, Politico reports.

An FEC audit of Obama for America's 2008 records found the committee failed to disclose millions of dollars in contributions and dragged its feet in refunding millions more in excess contributions.

The resulting fine, one of the largest ever handed down by the FEC, is the result of a failure to disclose or improperly disclosing thousands of contributions to Obama for America during the then-senator's 2008 presidential run, documents show.

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http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/07/obama-campaign-fined-big-for-hiding-donors-keeping-illegal-donations

[BainsBane]

30. I wonder what Bernie's fines will amount to?

and I'm particularly interested in tracing the money trail for Old Towne Media, specifically just who is getting the 15% ad placement fees for the campaign, and if that somebody is the same somebody in his Senate and Congressional elections. https://medium.com/@VonEbsy/old-towne-media-llc-buying-a-political-revolution-40cbac5cb4c3#.dfddgliyc

[frylock]

32. I guess we'll wait and see.

But, back to your original point, when did the FEC arrest Obama?

[BainsBane]

34. The point was legal violations

not arrests. Clinton hasn't even been cited with a legal violation.

Thanks for showing how little concern you actually have about campaign finance. Of course it's obvious that there no issue that hasn't been thrown overboard to promote Sanders.

[frylock]

35. Get back to me when Bernie fails to refund the money.

He's in process of doing that.

[bobbobbins01]

36. Hillary has over 60 of those.

They also aren't illegal unless they go unaddressed. Hillary let hers go for so long that the FEC had to audit her, something that they haven't done to Sanders. Also, that entire argument is bullshit because every campaign in the history of time has gotten FEC violations, they're a non-issue.

[frylock]

24. HILLARY 2016: XX Days Without A Felony

[TheBlackAdder]

11. Stripes: Have you ever been convicted of a felony or a misdemeanor? That's robbery, rape . . .

.

Good. Good.


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[TwilightZone]

2. You left out the felony part, I presume intentionally...

" In addition, the law cited above explicitly makes it a felony to cut and paste classified information removing its classification designation."

The e-mails weren't classified until after the fact. There was no classification designation there to remove.

[NWCorona]

5. They are talking about the source material in the emails.

It's also Hillary's job to mark anything she does classified if needed.

This is huge!

[jeff47]

8. Wrong.

The e-mails weren't classified until after the fact.

Nope.

The emails were not marked classified. The Clinton campaign has worked very, very hard to conflate the after-the-fact marking with after-the-fact classification.

Information is classified, whether or not it is properly marked. This is extensively covered during your in-briefing when you are given access to classified information, and repeated in your annual re-training. They also provide phone-book-sized classification guides you can look at to figure out if something is classified, as well as the people to contact if you have any questions. And if you do have questions, you are supposed to treat it as classified until they are answered.

Government peon #26947 would be in deep shit for this. But it's Hillary Clinton, so we'll see if she gets regular justice or Petraeus-Rove justice.

[Fawke Em]

13. The information that came off SIPRnet was. eom

[2cannan]

16. There's also something called 'born classified'.

Exclusive: Dozens of Clinton emails were classified from the start, U.S. rules suggest
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

snip

The new stamps indicate that some of Clinton's emails from her time as the nation's most senior diplomat are filled with a type of information the U.S. government and the department's own regulations automatically deems classified from the get-go — regardless of whether it is already marked that way or not.

In the small fraction of emails made public so far, Reuters has found at least 30 email threads from 2009, representing scores of individual emails, that include what the State Department's own "Classified" stamps now identify as so-called 'foreign government information.' The U.S. government defines this as any information, written or spoken, provided in confidence to U.S. officials by their foreign counterparts.

This sort of information, which the department says Clinton both sent and received in her emails, is the only kind that must be "presumed" classified, in part to protect national security and the integrity of diplomatic interactions, according to U.S. regulations examined by Reuters.

"It's born classified," said J. William Leonard, a former director of the U.S. government's Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO). Leonard was director of ISOO, part of the National Archives and Records Administration, from 2002 until 2008, and worked for both the Bill Clinton and George W. Bush administrations.

"If a foreign minister just told the secretary of state something in confidence, by U.S. rules that is classified at the moment it's in U.S. channels and U.S. possession," he said in a telephone interview, adding that for the State Department to say otherwise was "blowing smoke."

[Purveyor]

23. Your presumption is false. I took the first few paragraphs of the

article and posted them exactly as presented in the originating source.

Nice try though...

[NWCorona]

3. Ouch!

[COLGATE4]

7. Inquistr.com All you need to know. nt

[Demsrule86]

12. It is bull shite

14 unnamed send Obama a letter or memo...sounds like Right wing shit...no indictment so they want to milk it..to bad you all really believe it...two weeks...folks.

[Purveyor]

22. Actually they are named if you look at the link in the OP

that displays the memo.

Here: http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-intelligence-veterans-urge-fast-report-on-hillary-clintons-emails-nsa-fbi-have-enough-evidence/5526858

[frylock]

28. Oh.

[joshcryer]

33. A bunch of retired old fogies.

[procon]

39. You're holding out this website as if its a credible source,

but at the very least, why didn't they identify the people who supposedly wrote under the guise of "Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity".


Until there's actually some identifiable source that any legitimate news outlet would have vetted and validated their claims, this remains a work of fiction, or, considering the website you lifted it from, another rightwing conspiracy theory.

[COLGATE4]

40. Two weeks. Thank God. nt

[Fawke Em]

19. Maybe, but the group initiating the memo

is a Who's Who of intelligence experts that have mostly criticized right-wing presidents and/or whistle-blew on torture.

[Dem2]

21. Seems to pop up in a lot of troll-type accusations

I wish people wouldn't use these shady websites.

[Demsrule86]

10. Right....

14 unnamed right wingers...tell me who they are...

[panader0]

15. VIPS--Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veteran_Intelligence_Professionals_for_Sanity

[Fawke Em]

18. I understand you don't like reading this, but the 14 were named.

And, no... they aren't all right-wingers. In fact, most are whistle-blowers who criticized right-wing administrations.

William Binney, Technical Director, NSA; co-founder, SIGINT Automation Research Center (ret.) is a former highly placed intelligence official with the United States National Security Agency (NSA) turned whistleblower who resigned on October 31, 2001, after more than 30 years with the agency. He was a high-profile critic of his former employers during the George W. Bush administration.

Thomas Drake, Senior Executive, NSA (former)Philip Giraldi, CIA, Operations Officer (ret.): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Andrews_Drake#Drake_action_within_the_NSA

Sen. Mike Gravel, DEMOCRAT, Alaska; earlier, Army Intelligence

Matthew Hoh, former Capt., USMC, Iraq & Foreign Service Officer, Afghanistan (associate VIPS): http://www.ciponline.org/about-us/experts-staff/matthew_hoh

Larry C. Johnson, CIA & State Department (ret.): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_C._Johnson

Michael S. Kearns, Captain, USAF Intelligence Agency (ret.), ex-Master SERE Instructor: Michael S. “Kearnsey” Kearns is a retired Air Force Intelligence Officer, and former Master SERE instructor, who has been a vocal opponent of the Bush/Cheney torture program and the dark complexities of political war profiteering at the expense of the American people.

John Kiriakou, Former CIA Counterterrorism Officer <-- This guy was actually convicted of accidentally releasing classified info and spent 30 months in jail. He's the perfect example of what could happen to Clinton.

Ray McGovern, former US Army infantry/intelligence officer & CIA analyst (ret.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_McGovern

Elizabeth Murray, Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Middle East, CIA (ret.) Worked for Ray McGovern

Todd Pierce, MAJ, US Army Judge Advocate (ret.): Todd E. Pierce retired as a Major in the US Army Judge Advocate General (JAG) Corps in November 2012. His most recent assignment was defense counsel in the Office of Chief Defense Counsel, Office of Military Commissions. In the course of that assignment, he researched and reviewed the complete records of military commissions held during the Civil War and stored at the National Archives in Washington, DC.

Scott Ritter, former MAJ, USMC, former UN Weapon Inspector, Iraq: Surely you know this guy.

Diane Roark, DOE, DOD, NSC, & professional staff, House Intelligence Committee (ret.):

Robert David Steele, former CIA Operations Officer: This is the only coo-coo bird of the bunch. He's an Alex Jones type.

Peter Van Buren, U.S. Department of State, Foreign Service Officer (ret.) (associate VIPS)

Kirk Wiebe, former Senior Analyst, SIGINT Automation Research Center, NSA, (ret.)

Ann Wright, U.S. Army Reserve Colonel (ret) and former U.S. Diplomat


You can research the last few, but it proves my point: these aren't right-wingers.

[workinclasszero]

27. The e-mails weren't classified until after the fact.

[frylock]

31. The chair wasn't thrown until after the fact.

Who the hell takes you seriously?

[MattP]

29. So Bernie people call Barbara Lee a Dino because Hillary picked put her on the convention panel

But Gravel a Alaskan Dem, as right a Dem as you can get has Dem street cred

[Fawke Em]

38. You can discredit him if you like, but what about the others?

Scott Ritter, Ray McGovern, Michael Kearns, William Binney and Thomas Drake are nothing to sneeze at.

[BainsBane]

37. So does that mean "progressives" have decided the CIA and not the courts now determine felonies?

So much for due process. If only she were an accused rapist, with a pending arrest warrant, on the run, hiding out in foreign embassies, rather than the Democratic nominee for president, she might find defenders more defenders.
Homicidal despots with billions stashed in foreign banks are also big heroes in certain quarters.

[pdsimdars]

41. Yes, this report put out today dealt with only one issue, the "rules" at the State Department

regarding FOIA.

To me, the important things are all of the classified emails dealing with national security that were illegally on that private server.

Then there are the connections with her foundation and her actions at state department.

Oh, man, you must have really stirred the Hillary hornet's nest. I see there were 41 replies and I can only see 3 of them. . WOW! That's a new high.