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imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:31 PM May 2016

So who do you think most superdelegates will support for the nomination? Biden, Warren or Sanders


I think Bernie Sanders is the most likely followed by Elizabeth Warren and than Joe Biden.

Clinton will have to withdraw her name from consideration soon after the last primary.
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So who do you think most superdelegates will support for the nomination? Biden, Warren or Sanders (Original Post) imagine2015 May 2016 OP
No she won't fun n serious May 2016 #1
No way she hits 2,383 through PDs alone. morningfog May 2016 #28
Yes there is.. fun n serious May 2016 #30
You have trouble with math? morningfog May 2016 #34
How does Bernie do it then? Why does she have to reach 2,383 with pledged alone and not him? BobbyDrake May 2016 #41
Good god. He doesn't have to, she doesn't have to. morningfog May 2016 #48
They are waiting to be told. oldandhappy May 2016 #2
Someone will be gone soon after the last primary. nt LexVegas May 2016 #3
12 Superdelegates announced support for Clinton this week... brooklynite May 2016 #4
Not clueless, just blinded by the DNC Oligarchy! B Calm May 2016 #8
What, does super mean smart? JackRiddler May 2016 #11
How many announced this week? 500, 300, 200, less than 100? How many? imagine2015 May 2016 #12
Why did superdelegates switch in 2008? Garrett78 May 2016 #14
They were not pledged or required to vote for the person with the most pledged delegates. imagine2015 May 2016 #19
The person with the most pledged delegates has always ended up being the nominee. Garrett78 May 2016 #21
Hillary conceded. morningfog May 2016 #32
Because she was going to lose. Garrett78 May 2016 #35
200 SDs changed from the candidate in 1st place to support the candidate in 2nd place in 2008? brooklynite May 2016 #16
Elizabeth Warren... in my dreams. apnu May 2016 #5
I REALLY would like to see her as Hillary's VP pick. Metric System May 2016 #9
I believe she is ready if called upon. imagine2015 May 2016 #13
I think Bernie doesn't need another progressive apnu May 2016 #54
What? This is even more ludicrous than your last op. cali May 2016 #6
Who do you support for the nomination? imagine2015 May 2016 #20
I've supported Bernie for over 25 years. I supported him in the primary cali May 2016 #25
Good. So I won't attack any Bernie supporters on this board. imagine2015 May 2016 #38
Hillary bravenak May 2016 #7
Yes, we've come a long way ... NanceGreggs May 2016 #17
Or, they says she is super sick and about to have a blood clot burst in her brain soon. bravenak May 2016 #18
+1 I completely agree. lunamagica May 2016 #40
They will cast their support based upon the following factors: Maedhros May 2016 #10
There is another one. Self-interest and the desire to remain in Congress if up for election. imagine2015 May 2016 #15
A bunch of them are lobbyists, etc. and not congresspeople.[n/t] Maedhros May 2016 #37
How about the very likely probability that the Republicans would impeach Hillary for her Cal33 May 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler May 2016 #22
The obvious answer is Clinton. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #23
It's a trade-off between winning the election and keeping the 1% happy. senz May 2016 #24
I'm a Bernie fan, but why don't you just cut this shit out? You embarrass yourself. HERVEPA May 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #31
Dream on. Also, not a chance in hell it would be Sanders anyway if that did happen. tonyt53 May 2016 #27
Hillary can't "sew up the nomination" before the convention. Do you understand why? imagine2015 May 2016 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #29
I think they'll largely support Biden DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #33
If she's still in @ convention Voice for Peace May 2016 #36
When did Biden and Warren come in Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #42
When did Bidenotand Warren come in Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #43
Clinton hands down. seabeyond May 2016 #44
The superdelegates will support the pledged delegate leader, just as they have done in the past Tarc May 2016 #46
The crazy train GulfCoast66 May 2016 #47
Another "Dear Penthouse ... " OP. JoePhilly May 2016 #49
Get back in your cell! KingFlorez May 2016 #50
Don't forget to spend your rent money on lottery tickets redstateblues May 2016 #51
Humphrey. Worked so well last time, after all. Scootaloo May 2016 #52
They will support Hillary Clinton. A more realistic question is what would happen if Hillary dies StevieM May 2016 #53
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
34. You have trouble with math?
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

She would need 78.5% of all remaining pledged delegates. Not easy and not going to happen.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
41. How does Bernie do it then? Why does she have to reach 2,383 with pledged alone and not him?
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:59 PM
May 2016

Seems like a ridiculous and obvious double standard there.

brooklynite

(93,847 posts)
4. 12 Superdelegates announced support for Clinton this week...
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:34 PM
May 2016

...are they so clueless that they don't see the danger you were so clever to identify?

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
11. What, does super mean smart?
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:48 PM
May 2016

"Clueless" has never been a dealbreaker for a politician's resume. Many find ways to turn it into an asset.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
12. How many announced this week? 500, 300, 200, less than 100? How many?
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:50 PM
May 2016

And it really doesn't matter that much because they can change their minds and abandon her just like over 200 super delegates did at the 2008 convention.

Isn't that right?

Abandon ship! We done hit an iceberg! LOL



Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
14. Why did superdelegates switch in 2008?
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:52 PM
May 2016

Was it, perhaps, because Obama ended up with more pledged delegates?

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
19. They were not pledged or required to vote for the person with the most pledged delegates.
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:11 PM
May 2016

And Hillary brags about winning 8 of the last 10 primaries in 2008.

The super delegates knew that Obama was a far stronger candidate in the general election than Hillary.

Why in the world would they go with a weaker candidate?

Just like today!

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
21. The person with the most pledged delegates has always ended up being the nominee.
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:15 PM
May 2016

Do you think that's coincidental?

brooklynite

(93,847 posts)
16. 200 SDs changed from the candidate in 1st place to support the candidate in 2nd place in 2008?
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:54 PM
May 2016

Wow! Must have missed that.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
13. I believe she is ready if called upon.
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:52 PM
May 2016

And I think Sanders would support her. Elizabeth would either put Bernie on the ticket as her candidate for vice-president or make him Secretary of Labor in her cabinet!

apnu

(8,722 posts)
54. I think Bernie doesn't need another progressive
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:08 AM
May 2016

He'll need someone to appeal to the middle. Both Democratic and independent moderates.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
7. Hillary
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:36 PM
May 2016

I love how the whole future of Sanders campaign relies on Hillary being indicted. If that happened, they should vote for the next best Dem who ran, O'malley, period. And they might just do that if the impossible happened.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
17. Yes, we've come a long way ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:01 PM
May 2016

... from "once everyone gets to know Bernie and hears his message, they will come out in droves to vote for him".

That having failed - big time! - it's now "let's pin our hopes on an indictment that will never happen".

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
18. Or, they says she is super sick and about to have a blood clot burst in her brain soon.
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:09 PM
May 2016

Wishing for her to be jailed or dead. Sad.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
10. They will cast their support based upon the following factors:
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:38 PM
May 2016

1. Who paid them the most in favors and influence?
2. Who knows where they buried the bodies?
3. Who will maintain the status quo, and hence the Superdelegates' position at the feeding trough?

Yeah, I expect you were thinking "What's best for the country" would be on that list somewhere, but that's not how they roll.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
15. There is another one. Self-interest and the desire to remain in Congress if up for election.
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:54 PM
May 2016

They don't want to go down with the sinking U.S.S. Hillary.
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
45. How about the very likely probability that the Republicans would impeach Hillary for her
Wed May 25, 2016, 06:05 PM
May 2016

role in her emails, if she should become president? Will they be taking that into consideration
during their deliberations?

Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
24. It's a trade-off between winning the election and keeping the 1% happy.
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:31 PM
May 2016

Winning the election would mean Sanders, Warren or Trump, in that order. These three are exciting populists and two of them have coherent, well thought-out policies that favor the people over the oligarchs.

Keeping the 1% happy would mean Biden or Trump in that order. Biden is definitely status quo, while Trump is probably status quo, but less predictably so. Also, Trump is scary, and none of the others (in this list) are.

Response to HERVEPA (Reply #26)

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
27. Dream on. Also, not a chance in hell it would be Sanders anyway if that did happen.
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:36 PM
May 2016

Oh, and that last primary, HRC will have the nomination sewn up before then.

Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
46. The superdelegates will support the pledged delegate leader, just as they have done in the past
Wed May 25, 2016, 06:17 PM
May 2016

Keep clapping for Bernie's 11th-hour miracle though.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
47. The crazy train
Wed May 25, 2016, 06:53 PM
May 2016

Has come off the tracks.

No huge Clinton fan but she will be the nominee and the next President.

I am actually looking forward to the reaction of Bernie fans when he endorses and supports her. Will they run over him with his own bus?

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
53. They will support Hillary Clinton. A more realistic question is what would happen if Hillary dies
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:47 PM
May 2016

of natural causes before the convention. Because that is more likely to happen then the ridiculous scenario in which she is indicted.

If Hillary were to passes away the nomination would go to either Joe Biden or Elizabeth Warren. Bernie is not going to get the nomination.

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