"To stop Trump" is a really really great reason to vote for Hillary.

[YouDig]

A lot of people don't want to hear this. I keep seeing "tell me why to vote for Hillary, but don't say stopping Trump." This is like saying "why should I step off the train tracks, but don't talk about getting hit by a train."

Maybe you don't care about the minimum wage or abortion or global warming or whatever. Fine, everyone cares about different things. But even so, "not Trump" is about as good as a reason to vote for someone that I can possibly imagine.

[StayFrosty]

1. Their Savior has them riled up

Nothing that Hillary says or does can make them change their mind

They're ready to jump off a cliff if their Messiah doesn't get the nomination

[mac56]

29. "Savior"?! "Messiah"?!

Very cute, newbie.

What Hillary says or does isn't as powerful at changing minds - as what her fan club says or does.

Hillbots make Justin Bieber fans look mature and thoughtful.

[TSIAS]

2. It's the only reason

If Hillary does win, there needs to be immediate organization to get a progressive elected in 2020. I'll take Clinton as a placeholder for 4 years to stop Trump, but I don't want to be tied to her until 2024.

[YouDig]

24. Even if that were true, it would still be a really great reason.

I disagree, I think that there are other good things about Hillary besides not being Trump.

[frylock]

3. We know the game.

[jzodda]

4. It's a great reason!

Trump would change the nature of the Supreme Court for a generation! So if that happens what good is putting progressives in the white house in four or eight years? What good is a progressive Congress? The right wing hacks on the Supreme Court would over turn progressive priorities! Don't people get this?

[Ash_F]

5. Clinton: lower minimum wage, abortion restrictions and fracking

She kinda sorta supports $12 instead of $15, but not really.

She said she would open to further constitutional restrictions on abortion.

She was a strong proponent of fracking, which worsens global warming.

[oberliner]

12. Trump: minimum wage of zero, punish women who have abortions, global warming is a hoax

There are all positions Trump has explicitly taken over the past eight months.

Trump literally said there should be no minimum wage - let the states decide.

He said that abortion should be illegal and that a woman who gets an abortion should be punished for doing so.

He said that global warming is a hoax (and many Republicans agree with him).

[Ash_F]

14. Very True. That is terrible.

But she should have gone the other way on those 3 subjects. It is not something for the OP to brag about.

[oberliner]

16. Hillary definitely has a lot of flaws

But I think she is so much better than Trump that hopefully once the acrimony fades, Democrats and other progressives can come together behind her candidacy, in spite of her many imperfections. Trump is just that awful.

[Ash_F]

17. I think the issue is not so much the dedicated Democrats but the general electorate

[oberliner]

18. I can't imagine Trump doing well with any demographic other than white men

I would hope that Hillary's popularity among many of the other demographic groups will be enough to put her over the top.

[Ash_F]

20. Some time ago a black coworker told us he would be voting for Trump "As long as he builds that wall"

A latino coworker showed me a copy of his book "The Art of the Deal" and gushed about how he was going to apply its lessons to his life and how great Trump was.

Apparently the pollsters take demographics into account in their weighting. What is concerning is not where the polls are now, which is not good, but where they are trending. Clinton has been trending down for a year.

I think Trump is going to soften his rhetoric and run to Clinton's left on a few key swing state issues, such as trade.


This doesn't even address the fact that she might catch a charge during the GE, dragging down not just herself but the entire D ticket. To me it was an insane gamble for Democratic leadership to throw everything behind her.


On the bright side Trump could also catch a charge, so we have that to hope for. But at least the R establishment tried to stop him.

[Yurovsky]

19. If she wins, why bother having a Democratic Party?

I have spent most of my life fighting against the very forces that Hillary Clinton has embraced. From protesting Wall Street to the war in Iraq to Walmart's anti-labor policies to mass incarceration of POC, I constantly find Hillary on the wrong side of most issues I care very deeply about. I shudder to think what America will be like in 20 or 30 years if both major parties are owned - lock, stock, & barrel - by the military-industrial complex, the prison-industrial complex. Goldman Sachs, and mega-retailers like Walmart. This country will cease to exist in any form that provides opportunity to working class and poor Americans.

I refuse to just sit by and allow Hillary and her allies conspire with the GOP to steer even more of our national wealth to the 1%. The Clintons are a cancer on this Party, and if they are allowed to assume full control over it for the next 4-8 years, I will no longer be able to identify as a Democrat. I will not be a corporate shill, I will not embrace war as the primary means of carrying out US foreign policy, and I will not accept the immoral incarceration of millions of Americans who happen to have a skin tone that frightens the GOP and right-wing/3rd Way Democrats.

The fact that so many within the Democratic Party dismiss the importance of economic justice makes me wonder if it is in fact already too late. But when I see the overflow crowds at Bernie's rallies, I'm given a little ray of hope that maybe, just maybe, the Democratic Party will pull its head out of its ass and veer away from the 3rd Way/Conservative Democrat path that Hillary wants to take us down.

[Broward]

6. Doubt you really care about those issues. Otherwise, you would've backed Bernie.

[fancypants75]

23. Exactly, lip service is activism in their world, wouldn't want to get radical by affecting change!

[roguevalley]

7. voting for a candidate who can't do more than tie Trump is hardly smarter than voting for

the candidate that is beating trump by 10 points. Anyone who can't see that is blind.

[oberliner]

13. Do everything in your power to make sure Trump does not get elected

With Hillary as a candidate, it might take a little more effort, but it can be done.

It's way too early to give up now.

[mac56]

28. "Do everything in your power to make sure Trump does not get elected."

How about: nominate the candidate who consistently beats Trump by at least ten points? Instead of the one who doesn't do better than tie with him?

[oberliner]

31. The nomination process is based on primaries and caucuses

It seems that Hillary is going to be the nominee based on that process, barring a major upset in the last few states.

National polls this far before the general election can swing wildly. I would not put too much stock in them at this point.

[CanadaexPat]

8. That will be her campaign rationale.

[ibegurpard]

9. many people may eventually get there

But you need to stop with this constant shit.

[Beausoir]

10. Here's another....

http://uaw.org/uaw-endorses-hillary-clinton-president/

[colsohlibgal]

11. My Hope

If she wins I hope she has an epiphany and becomes a real progressive champion. I am so skeptical that would happen. If Trump wins who knows what that egotist will do.

Jill Stein, a great lady and a true liberal, will get my vote. Again, in a true democracy she and the rest of the Green Party would have a real chance. But in our closed two party system, both run by Wall Street and other billionaires and millionaires, we have a plutocracy.

[seaglass]

37. You could have been supporting Jill Stein from day one. All Bernie supporters could have. Why

didn't they?

You know she can't win, right?

Your fellow citizens thank you for your Trump vote.

[reddread]

15. been fun

[Vote2016]

21. Unless you live in one of the 48 non-battleground states where no clothes pins are required

[eastwestdem]

22. Yes it is. It should be a reason on everyone's list. nt

[cali]

25. Sure. I think that's an excellent reason.

[wundermaus]

26. LOL...

nope.
She is a losing option to Trump.
Bernie out polls her against Trump.
She is a flawed candidate.
The empress has no clothes.
Get over it and lets beat Trump with Bernie.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

27. In the end, it will come to fruition. In the meantime, this.

[Joe the Revelator]

30. Voting against someone doesn't GOTV or really mean anything.

I'd rather use my vote to vote for a candidate I could support.

[restorefreedom]

32. nope, sorry. i vote FOR people, not against other people

and hillary has given me no reason to vote FOR her.

i will vote for someone i believe in and can ethically support.

the lesser of two evils isn't cutting it for most poeple anymore.

[YouDig]

33. "I only walk towards things, not away from them. If you want me to step off the tracks,

you need to convince me that paradise is right around the corner. Otherwise, I'm just gonna stand here, train be damned!"

#bernielogic

[One of the 99]

34. Yet Bernie is doing better in the polls against Trump.

[YouDig]

35. So vote for him in the primary, if you think those numbers would hold up.

[One of the 99]

36. I did.