Accusing Senator Boxer of "faking it", really????

[youceyec]

From Bernie camp? Are they really trying to become like the Trump campaign? Can we expect more gutter politics from his campaign? His campaign manager should be fired for that accusation against Senator Boxer. When is enough enough?

[YouDig]

1. Yes, really. And yes, they are trying to become the Trump campaign.

[bobbobbins01]

2. Video evidence.

End of story.

[JimDandy]

33. +1000. Yes, there IS evidence of THAT. How absolutely appropriate.

[LisaM]

3. Jeff Weaver....

I was saying the other day he looks like a Gamergate comment come to life.

[hobbit709]

4. She didn't act all that worried in that video.

[reformist2]

11. That video exposed her for the liar she is. Instead of backing down, Camp Hillary is doubling down.

[seabeyond]

16. What? Did you expect her to cry? Wet her pants? Run away? Except the women Sanders supporters

who are awesome brave and never intimidated by a mob of young angry men, .... pushing forward and shaking the barrier, most women would be intimidate by the yelling, screaming, name calling, hoisting chairs, ect...

But hey guys, because Boxer didn't get in a fetal position for you all, of course, you call her a liar.

Pathetic.

[hobbit709]

17. Get a grip.

Of course that would interfere with your outrage and name calling.

[seabeyond]

21. You get a fuckin' grip. Calling Boxer a liar because she didn't perform as you see fit.

[hobbit709]

26. You really do need to work on your interpersonal skills.

[seabeyond]

29. With a man that says Boxer was lying because HE doesn't feel she showed enough emotion for him?

Or the correct emotion? No, I do not have to work on shit.

But then I get it. I am not behaving how you expect I should behave. I should be nicer, work on my tone, ect....

[Fawke Em]

38. I'm a woman and I agree with him.

Boxer acted like a spoiled brat.

FWIW, I still like her for the most part, but she was absolutely wrong in this instance.

[cherokeeprogressive]

32. LOL

The video doesn't fit the narrative you're pushing. Get over it.

[JimDandy]

39. It was quite a performance all right by Clinton's Diva, but she flubbed the ending.

[Logical]

49. You are silly and dramatic beyond belief. Lol!

[JimDandy]

36. Liars lie. Sucks for you all that there IS evidence of her antagonizing the delegates

and then giving the equivalent of "fuck you" kisses to that same group of upset delegates.

[.99center]

59. Now the entire convention was "a mob of young angry men"

For gods sake, just watch any of the numerous videos out there before you continue on labeling everyone. "Hoisting chairs" Are you saying Barbara lied about the chair being thrown?

"most women would be intimidate by the yelling, screaming, name calling, hoisting chairs, ect..."
Yet, she went on stage and screamed "HILLARY!" "WERE WINNING!" Not the type of inciting language I would use if I was surrounded by a mob of young angry violent Bernie bros .

These prejudiced, hate full smears are pathetic. The worst part about reading these types of smears is knowing that you and others are just repeating crap the Hillary campaign's putting out there.

[Exilednight]

5. wake me when the pouttage is over and we're ready to talk issues.

[tularetom]

6. Um, I think you forgot something in your post

So here it is:


In case you missed it:


See you want to be sure to add that to your post otherwise people who read it will believe you are actually that gullible.

[TSIAS]

7. The video looks like she was having fun taunting the Sanders people

I won't accuse her of lying, as only she knows her mental state. But I've found a pattern of dishonesty from the Clinton side in this NV incident. Roberta Lange is cited as being a Sanders backer, but there was no record of her ever endorsing Sanders. Conveniently she is now undecided. Same thing with America Ferrera claiming that "English only!" was chanted back in February. The whole thing looks like a ploy to systematically smear Sanders supporters. And a few of our own fell for the trap by leaving incendiary messages for the Chair. Being a liar doesn't mean Lange should be treated that poorly.

[left-of-center2012]

8. How do we unite when the Bernie bashing continues? n/t

[fancypants75]

9. She is being accused of exaggerating, and yes, exaggeration is lying.

[GreatGazoo]

10. see for yourself

[arcane1]

35. That poster knows they are posting bullshit. Pure trolling that won't be swayed by facts.

Their job here is to smear Sanders supporters in any way possible, without regard to reality.

[youceyec]

48. your full of it

she was blowing kisses and then pointed at someone. Nothing wrong here.

[Broward]

12. The things that get some Hillary supporters upset.

Have you had enough of Hillary's warmongering yet?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Maybe someone wanted to see a little blood.

[Dem2]

14. D'oh

you went there.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Somebody seems disappointed...

Reminds me of the bias against sexual assault victims.... In the bad old days they had to be beat to a pulp for their accusation to be taken seriously.

[seabeyond]

19. Exactly. Nt

[Dem2]

27. It's been embarrassing

I do often wonder "who are these people?"

Edit: oh, and thanks for drawing the comparison between B & T supporters, it needs to be front and center.

[BootinUp]

28. +1

[PufPuf23]

41. There is a difference in that the sexual assault victim is from a position of weakness

whereas Hillary Clinton are from a position of strength -- what the situations have in common is unequal power relations.

The gas lighting, mocking, etc. we see from the Clinton campaign towards the Sanders campaign are the same tactics used by the more powerful emotionally abusing spouse to the trapped spouse in an abusive relationship.

I am disappointed in Senator Boxer who I have voted for during her political career. Boxer did not need to mock, diminish, and exaggerate actions by Sanders supporters.

[BootinUp]

24. I'm trying not to laugh

oh lordy

[seabeyond]

18. Or for Boxer to whimper like a girl. Time to walk from DU for a while. Totally disgusting. Nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. She handled the situation with aplomb.

[seabeyond]

23. They purposely worked toward aggression and intimidation. Consistent how they seem to work best

with the women. I am not seeing Sanders going ballistic on men, only DWS, Clinton and dismissing PP.

His supporters, all that in their manhood....

Then the asses has the gall to call her a liar, when she says that situation was volatile.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. There is nothing you said I can disagree with.

They certainly didn't cover themselves with glory.

[JimDandy]

47. How misogynistic to simply dismiss all the women delegates

of Sanders. Fully half of all the delegates there should have been women, if the Democratic Party rules for electing delegates were followed. But that doesn't fit your narrative.

Boxer, surrounded by security, in full command of the mic and the stage, dominated and antagonized those women and men with her pre-planned agenda of harassement.

She bullied them and poured gasoline on the havoc she wrecked with her "fuck you" kisses. She doesn't get a pass because she is a woman. Shame on her!!

[PufPuf23]

42. Boxer took cheap shots in the days after the event in NV and exaggerated what occurred.

Boxer was not without fault in whatever actually happened.

Boxer's role as a party elder was to calm and bring together party members not add fuel to flame.

From what I saw, Boxer made no attempt but to deliberately set more flame.

I find this sad as I have voted for Boxer for decades.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. A 4′ 11" woman in the midst of an angry mob.

She had every right to fear for her safety. I am not going to begrudge her right to be afraid.

[PufPuf23]

45. Boxer initiated and dished at the caucus and then later from a 100%

secure position added to the flames and exaggerated.

Boxer's appearance in NV and afterwards in the media appears planned and staged, a cheap political stunt.

You are lying to yourself and those that read your words to ignore that manufactured political stunts for the media were common tactics by Hillary Clinton in 2008 and now again in 2016.

Boxer was no more afraid than you are to post at DU.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

22. She was "afraid" in the same way that Hillary was "afraid" in Bosnia.

[Kall]

30. Blowing kisses to the crowd

and flipping them off doesn't look like fear to me.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. Being afraid and contemptuous are not mutually exclusive.

When I was a kid this guy was shooting buck shot at me and my friend and we were flipping him off as we ran away. Granted we were far away...

[Kall]

56. Okay

[DemocratSinceBirth]

60. When I was a young man I was falsely arrested.

I had Ampicillin and the imbecilic cop thought it was Quaaludes. I was sitting in the back of the police cruiser and asked the cop what kind of car do you drive. He asked why I asked him that. I said because after I sue you I will own it. I was going to jail. Any sentient person would have been afraid and I was. However I wasn't going to let him have that satisfaction.


But as always I was vindicated in the end. the charges were dropped, and I ended up successfully suing the police department for false arrest, false imprisonment, and malicious prosecution.

Long story short, one can be afraid and not yet cower,

[dchill]

31. Yeah, the email thing is still real.

So are the national polls. Boxer's life is and has been safe. Her political career is over. So is Hillary's.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. ""Wish in one hand, crap in the other. See which one gets filled first."

[dchill]

50. My Dad used to say that!

The crap hand always got full first! Go figure...

[arcane1]

34. Your outrage is as fake and transparent as it can be. You need new material.

[TheKentuckian]

40. Fuckin A right, I do. Further, she intentionally was trying whip up a negative response

as a nasty political stunt.

[Nyan]

51. You seem to be trying awful hard to feign outrage.

Welcome to DU, by the way. It's only been a month, huh?

[wendylaroux]

52. b boxer faking it? that's what he said.

[cherokeeprogressive]

53. I'm trying to figure out just why faking it is in quotes...

What, exactly, are you trying to say?

[Starry Messenger]

54. Let them keep bashing her.

All of this negativity is like nectar to me--it just makes people in CA turn to Hillary. Mail-in voting is strong this year kids, keep it up!

[HooptieWagon]

55. Yes, she was faking it and lying.

It seems to be contagious at Camp Weathervane.

[Beausoir]

57. Senator BS has lost. Time for all Democrats to focus on winning in the GE.

[Cobalt Violet]

64. well we need someone who can beat trump. It ain't going to be Clinton.

[all american girl]

61. I like it that a man feels he has the right to tell a woman how she felt...

[snowy owl]

62. Yes, totally faking it. Good think she didn't go into acting.

She's terrible at it.

[Cobalt Violet]

63. let them eat nothingburgers!

[newrevolution]

65. She and her cohort Clinton are both liars

but I'm sure you knows this already

[Time for change]

66. I would not accuse Barbara Boxer of faking it.

I saw the interview with Weaver, and I think that he didn't quite accuse her of that.

On the other hand, we have numerous reports from people who were there who say that there was no violence or threats of violence at the convention. Video evidence seems to corroborate that.

Barbara Boxer has every right to have felt threatened, and I will take her word for it that she did. But what happened at the convention were loud angry protests in response to flagrant abuses of power on the part of Hillary surrogates -- not violence. If Boxer felt threatened by that, that's her right, but don't blame it on the Bernie delegates. Their protests were not only excusable, they had an obligation to engage in them in defense of democracy for those who elected them.