What difference does it make if Clinton is called the "presumptive nominee"...

[brooklynite]

...once the voting is over? At that point, the decision is in the hands of the delegates (pledged and Super) and nobody will be swayed by the "corporate media".

[LexVegas]

2. Rightwing assholes do. nt

[JonathanRackham]

6. Awww

[cali]

3. Fine with me if you want to call her that.

See the new poll out of California?

[brooklynite]

7. I did...a tie doesn't change the dynamics.

Sanders has to win 80% of the California vote to come anywhere near Clinton's PD count.

[grossproffit]

8. So, Bernie still has a chance?

[cali]

12. No it doesn't change the dynamics of the primary. It does change

the dynamics of the general.

[Vinca]

4. She can call herself whatever she wants.

From the way things are going it appears she might be called the "disgraced presumptive nominee" by everyone else.

[brooklynite]

9. "by everyone else"

by which you mean: disgruntled Bernie supporters?

[randome]

5. It's a common term that hurts some sensitive souls who still believe in fairies.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[Bluenorthwest]

10. My honest answer is that if I was supporting Hillary I still would not fit in with what her folks

on DU do because I come from a very large tradition of not counting any chicken that is not hatched and a few days old to boot.
So I'd never call any candidate presumptive until they actually were such. To call for it early, which has been habitual on DU, is to me an extraordinarily indulgent and risky thing.
Hillary often cites her allegedly profound faith, her faith teaches the principle I speak of repeatedly an in various ways both positive and negative. That faith offers the great advice that arrogance is natural prelude to failure, that excessive pride actually creates failure
My own professional culture is steeped in such thinking.
So It is just not something I would seek, to be early proclaimed or lauded in advance. Plenty of time to praise me once the bridge is crossed, I do not need an early dose to sustain.

So I'm the sort of guy who lets the check clear before I say 'I sold another one'. Literally. Until the check clears.

[liberalnarb]

11. I couldn't care less what they call her. n/t.