Turns out Hillary didn't file her TPS reports. Outrage!

[YouDig]

Of course, neither of the two SoSes before her did either, and a bunch of other State employees didn't either. But never mind that.

I wonder what other bureaucratic red tape she violated. Did she move her desk around herself rather than scheduling a desk movement appointment and having the union guys do it? Did she have a couple more personal items in her office than the rules allowed?

There's so much more ground to explore here. Maybe she even used office equipment to print invitations to a birthday party!

[polio2]

1. her server containing top secret information was hacked

guccifer's doodles prove it, that makes her liable for criminal negligence. If Powell's hypothetical aol/google account was hacked, he wouldn't be liable for the security lapses of the system, google/gmail/aol, etc. would. In this case, Hillary is liable.

[YouDig]

3. Guccifer's doodles! Nice one! No, it wasn't hacked and it didn't contain top secret information.

Are you going for the "double negative" thing?

[polio2]

4. yes, it was hacked

this was reported back in 2013. Guccifer found a folder on the server, and he even named it. That's where Clinton's doodles came from. The server was both an email server and originally bill clinton's virtual workspace, it's admitted by Hillary.

[YouDig]

6. Except for the total lack of evidence you might have a point.

[polio2]

9. the doodles

prove it, they came off a folder hosted on the clinton server. He even named the exact folder he got it from when he released the doodles.

[YouDig]

10. Like I said, if not for the total lack of evidence, you might have a point.

[polio2]

11. that is the evidence

otherwise, where did they come from?

The Clintons have plead the fifth on the issue.

[YouDig]

13. If you could prove they came from her server. But you can't, because there is zero evidence.

[polio2]

14. he named the exact folder

on the server, this was years ago before it was even an issue.

[YouDig]

15. Another thing that there is no proof of.

Why do you think Guccifer would have stolen some doodle that he knows proves nothing, instead of actually stealing some of Hillary's emails, like he did with his other hacks. Maybe he was just being shy.

[polio2]

16. this was years ago

and he named the exact folder it was located on, and hillary admitted that the server was originally bill's private server before an email software was added to it. Guccifer was dumping all the personal affects/images of all the presidents including the bushes, etc. That's what he was looking for at the time.

[YouDig]

17. So he said that she had a folder called "Documents", that's his "proof"?

And he found some doodles that he can't prove where they came from. This is really what the conspiracy theory is based on? Try a little harder.

[polio2]

18. bill never released the doodles to anyone

no, the folder was called 'wjcdrawings'

[YouDig]

19. And he proved that that was a folder on Hillary's email server, right?

And he proved that the doodles came from there, and weren't on any other computer, right?

Oh wait, no, he didn't. He proved nothing.

[polio2]

20. it came from the clinton server

Hillary admitted that the email server was originally bill's personal storage system.

[YouDig]

21. So that's a "no". He didn't prove either of those things. Like I said, no proof at all.

[polio2]

22. the clintons haven't proven

that it wasn't from the server, hence they have pleaded the fifth on the issue.

Furthermore, why would he lie about saying he found the images in a folder on a server, years ago before it was even an issue?

[YouDig]

23. Ah, moving the goalposts. Sorry, if you want to insist she was hacked, you need proof.

And you have no proof. There's no evidence whatsoever.

[polio2]

24. the proof is the doodles

where did they come from?

The clintons have pleaded the fifth on the issue, and he named the exact folder before the email server was even an issue, he had no incentive to lie at the time when no one cared about it, and the clintons have no incentive to keep silent on the issue unless it really was on their server.

[YouDig]

25. It would be, if you could prove he got them by hacking her server.

Which of course you can't. So you have nothing.

[polio2]

26. it would be, if you could prove where he got them from

if it wasn't from the server, but considering occam's razor, it was from the server.

[YouDig]

27. You're making the accusation, you need the proof. And you have none.

[polio2]

29. occam's razor

you claim that he lied about where he got them from, which makes no sense considering the context, and considering the fact that the clintons are silent on the issue.

[YouDig]

30. Your razor is very dull. No proof. I'm sure the conspiracy theory community will love it though.

[polio2]

31. the only conspiracy theory is that the doodles came out of thin air

which is what you're suggesting.

[YouDig]

34. Or from some other computer somewhere. Occam's razor and all.

[polio2]

39. bill never released his doodles to anyone, that's the point

[YouDig]

40. That doesn't mean they were on Hillary's email server, and it definitely doesn't mean

they weren't on any other computer.

[polio2]

44. It's not 'hillary's email's server'

It's Bill's server, hillary admitted it in an interview, that the server was originally Bill's and used by him for his personal reasons, and then email software was added on to it later for Hillary.

[YouDig]

45. And there's is no proof they were on there, and that they weren't anywhere else.

Just you and your imagination.

[polio2]

46. then where did they come from since bill said he didn't release them to anyone

[YouDig]

47. I have no idea and neither do you. Do you know what the word "proof" means?

[polio2]

48. then where else where they?

if the clintons have nothing to hide they would just say where they were located, the reality is that they were on the server.

[riversedge]

38. You are the one making the claim-It is up to you to provide the evidence. But you can not.

[polio2]

43. no, guccifer stated this years ago

before anyone cared about the server, why would he lie? He would actually have no reason to do so, since no one even knew about the issue, and hence he wouldn't gotten any publicity even if he wanted it.

[BootinUp]

2. LOL, whats a TPS report?

[polio2]

5. office space, but that's not her problem

the hacking is

[Recursion]

66. For anyone curious, "Testing Procedure Specification"; used in software QA

Also a running gag from the movie "Office Space".

[morningfog]

7. You Dig and bury your head.

[MineralMan]

8. Worst of all, she tried to keep her red stapler.

Red is not an authorized color for State Department staplers.

There's one other red stapler holdout there:

[tonyt53]

28. Perfect!

[Hoyt]

32. LMAO. That's about it.

[MineralMan]

37. What's interesting is how few people recognized the TPS Reports allusion.

[WhiteTara]

56. Okay. What are TPS reports?

I want to laugh too!

[MineralMan]

63. Google 'TPS Report Office Space'

[WhiteTara]

64. Thanks. My first thought was

toilet paper supply.

[cherokeeprogressive]

36. "She didn't break the law, she only broke the rules!"

Bumper sticker material.

[riversedge]

41. Good one.

[uponit7771]

49. +1

[1StrongBlackMan]

51. It seems that ...

there are Policies and Regulations (which the report indicates were violated) and Agency/Office/Departmental Practices (which the report indicates were followed, instead).

It would seem, the only folks that would be outraged by the following of Agency/Office/Departmental Practices over the Policies and Regulations, would be partisan, agenda pushers; or, people that have never worked a job, or are willing to ignore what they experienced/learned on that job.

Agency/Office/Departmental Practices that conflict with Policies and Regulations develop over time as work-arounds for those doing the day to day work because the Policies and Regulations are too unyielding. Further, the work-arounds are never an issue unless/until something goes wrong. In this case, the "go wrong" was the right needed a stick ... the bigger "go wrong" is Bernie supporters are proving, more than willing to swing that stick.

Finally, I will say ... my, above, Bernie supporters comment is based how they are presenting themselves on DU. And, I limit it to DU, because I really never hear or see the topic outside of DU ... other than from naked partisans of the right. But that said, looking at the body of the posts/arguments of the most outraged DUers, I am starting to doubt their presentation as Bernie supporters.

[polly7]

12. What about the private server she used to communicate with Blumenthal - who'd

been banned by Obama - as an adviser re Libya (also representing clients with interests in a post-war Libya), being paid through her Foundation, and whose completely wrong 'intelligence' she used (with no ability for scrutiny) to persuade Obama to intervene in a sovereign nation on the '7 countries in 5 years' hit list and help cause that horror, as well as all of the resulting suffering for millions since?

So much ado about so little? The IS and Boko Haram freaks who were let lose to fill the vacuums in Iraq and Libya created have burned people alive - among so many other atrocities. Is that nothing? Without Blumenthal's 'info', an ambivalent Obama may not have been pushed over the line for that 51-49 vote. Clinton told Blumenthal to 'keep em coming'. Another email celebrated getting Obama onboard as an early Christmas present!

Barack Obama says Libya was 'worst mistake' of his presidency.

Meanwhile, millions are either dead, maimed physically and mentally, orphaned, dying at sea, refugees in dangerous refugee camps where women (who'd previously been allowed many, many freedoms now denied by the fundamentalists now running those countries) and children are kidnapped and raped and murdered.

Nothing to care about, though. I don't understand this at all

And check out this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1002&pid=7857478




Crickets. What you don't see on the trusty MSM every night won't bother you - or worse, even if you do see it, it's 'those people' who need to worry about it, not you.

[Seeinghope]

50. This is what I love. She has a private server in her basement avoiding the approved and provided

fully functioning server in The State Department that has all of the Security required (which her server did not) and she does not hand over all of the e-mails initially, then e-mails get erased but hey she did nothing wrong. Using Sidney Blumenthal when her boss said not to. Saying that the e-mails were personal and then proven not. Status quo for Hillary Clinton. Her supporters still scoff at the rules just like she apparent does. As usual "she didn't do anything wrong) "the others did it too!" Yea, I used to hear that from my kids, only they did not get away with it

[polly7]

53. I personally think she needed to avoid the security and scrutiny to get these

deals done, probably with a lot of help from Bill - who knew all of the players involved already. Not for one second do I think a single bit of any of it was unintentional.

[Seeinghope]

65. Hillary's security needs #1. Our country's security's need's #2...........maybe

[jack_krass]

33. The standards were updated in 2009, so what prev SOS did is irrelevantr

[YouDig]

35. Yeah, the TPS reports needed new cover sheets.

[MineralMan]

42. Isn't it funny that most people didn't get the TPS Report thing at all?

It demonstrates that anything that seems like an attack on Hillary Clinton is accepted without question. Either that or nobody saw "Office Space."

Uff da!

[uponit7771]

57. +1

[Lars39]

52. Equating national security with TPS reports?

sounds more like she wanted more flair instead

[Octafish]

54. Doesn't explain the missing Inspector General for the 4 years she led State Department.

The author helped put the S&L crooks behind bars in the 1990s as a regulator and forensic economist for the SEC. Black helped Iceland put its banksters behind bars, but for some reason, the Federal government failed to call on him for help in the great Bankster Bailout of 2008. He knows a bit about Inspector Generals and Control Fraud.

The Clintons Have Not Changed: The Clintonian War on the IGs

By William K. Black
February 23, 2016 Bloomington, MN

Secretary Hillary Clinton is asking Democratic voters to believe that she has experienced a “Road to Damascus” conversion from her roots as a leader of the “New Democrats” – the Wall Street wing of the Democratic Party. When exactly this conversion occurred is never stated, but an interesting fact has emerged that demonstrates it did not occur during her service as the Secretary of State. A Wall Street Journal story provides the key facts, but none of the analysis.

Newly released emails indicate that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her top staff were involved in the selection process for the State Department’s internal watchdog, a position that ultimately went unfilled throughout her four-year tenure.

The WSJ’s angle is that such involvement in the selection of the Inspector General (IG) is a threat to the IG’s vital independence. True, and also true as the story notes that Hillary was far from rare as an agency or department head in seeking to select behind the scenes the supposedly independent IGs.

The function of the IG is to “speak truth to power.” Naturally, “power” hates IGs with a purple passion. Government leaders are most likely to hate having its abuses made public by IG when the government leader is secretly acting in concert with immensely powerful private leaders for their mutual benefit at the expense of the public.

What the WSJ missed is that the Clinton’s, for decades, have sought to destroy the independence and effectiveness of the IGs precisely because of the threat that they pose of blowing the whistle on these abuses. The Obama administration, of course, is famous for its prosecutions of those who blow the whistle on such abuses. The real story is not that Hillary attempted to select a lap dog as IG – the real story is that for her entire tenure as Secretary, four years, she left unfilled the leadership position of the only institution in the State Department dedicated to maintaining integrity and preventing the abuse of public power to aid cronies. That aid, of course, comes with the clear expectation that the cronies will make the head of the State Department wealthy as soon as she or he steps down. There is no possible defense for that, and it does not happen accidentally. The primary blame goes to President Obama, who made no nomination for the position for the entire four years. It wasn’t Republican intransigence that explains this scandal.

CONTINUED...

http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2016/03/clintons-not-changed-clintonian-war-igs.html#more-10101

Bill Black is one of "those" economists who won't play ball with the money crowd. Why? He. Has. Integrity. Dig?

[think]

55. Thank you for posting. /nt

[polly7]

58. +1,000,000. nt.

[uponit7771]

59. She had the IG buried with Vince Foster :rolleyes:@HDS

[polly7]

60. I guess you believe you're funny. nt.

[uponit7771]

61. lighten up Francis's

[polly7]

62. No. nt.