Bernie's debating Trump is consistent with Bernie's promise

[hellofromreddit]

From months ago, when Bernie was requesting a full debate schedule from DWS (https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Letter-to-DNC.pdf) he wrote the following:

That is why I believe we should be open to a less traditional form of debating by welcoming the opportunity to debate not only amongst members of the Democratic Party but also having debates between Democratic and Republican candidates during the primary process. I believe that these inter-party debates would put in dramatic focus the shallow and at times ridiculous policies and proposals being advocated by the Republican candidates and by their party’s platform.

He's doing this to embarrass and defeat Trump. After all, Sanders did promise to do everything he could to defeat him. The only embarrassment Clinton suffers is her own fault by reneging on her promised third debate. She could have avoided it by just keeping her word; Sanders can't control that.

[bkkyosemite]

1. He is doing it to show how qualified he is to be President.

[Renew Deal]

6. There's no helping there.

[Trust Buster]

2. Trump has nothing to gain by opening himself up to a non-competitor. It was just talk. Calm down.

[YouDig]

8. I think he does. He and Bernie will make nice. You'll never see a kinder more gentle

Donald Trump than the one that shows up on stage with Bernie.

Bernie wants Trump's supporters to cross over and vote for him in the remaining primaries. Trump wants Bernie's supporters for November.

[PeaceNikki]

10. hmm, that is interesting, indeed

[Trust Buster]

13. I disagree. Trump's people won't have him take hits from the non-nominee. Trump cut off all

debates early in Republican Primary. He is just a tweeting fool. When will people learn ?

[Actor]

11. You misunderstand, possibly, why Trump is in this thing in the first place and who he really is.

He goes out of his way to create hatred among Americans, violence at his appearances.

I think if he thought he could get attention, he would debate a tomato plant.

Bernie wont be as much fun for him to debate though, there is that. Bernie is not a woman, so Trump cant viciously attack that, and overall Bernie is not target rich the way Hillary is perceived to be.

I say perceived because most of the negatives about her are right wing spin bullshit.

The most hilarious part of all this is Trump's insistence Bernie and the network donate to charity




Oh my fucking god, the most greedy motherfucker who ever lived insisting others donate...

[cali]

12. Trump is unlikely to listen to those advising him against this.

And it's right up his alley

[Trust Buster]

16. No, too much money is now backing him. He's just a tweeting fool. It won't happen.

[cali]

17. I think the odds are about 50-50

Trump is a showman addicted to blockbuster audiences.

[Trust Buster]

19. Reality has struck Trump. His big money donor efforts have just begun. He will not risk capital,

both political and financial, on Sanders.

[cali]

20. What risk? And trumpy says he's only fundraising because the party wants him to.

[Trust Buster]

36. No, the days of his self-funding campaign are over. He had a huge fundraiser out in California

yesterday. He needs to raise in the area of $1 billion not including outside PAC support. He ended debates in the Republican primary when he viewed it as being no longer beneficial to him. The advent of his big donor contributors will limit his independence. He will not be allowed to let a non-nominee take shots at him on a national stage. He did achieve his goal of getting Sanders supporters all riled up though. You are responding exactly as he wished.

[Renew Deal]

3. How many times will he attack Hillary in the debate?

And how will he defend her from Trump?

[hellofromreddit]

9. I can only dig up quotes from the past, not the future.

[cali]

14. He will say, when trump brings her up, that they aren't here to discuss her.

When trump brings up things that Bernie has said about her, he will say that she's a far better choice than trump.

[vintx]

26. Seriously, how hard is that to grasp?

It's baffling that her supporters would expect such a debate to center around her

[YouDig]

4. He and Trump won't attack each other, they have nothing to gain from it.

It will be a double-team attack on Hillary. They are both campaigning against her right now.

Bernie wants Trump's supporters to cross over in the primary, and Trump wants Bernie's in the general.

[cali]

15. Wrong. Bernie has represented me for 25 years. He will go after trump with a

vengeance.

[YouDig]

18. Ok, Bernie might. Trump definitely won't. Trump would be the kindest, gentlest

Trump that you could ever imagine. A big part of his election strategy is to get Bernie voters to either vote for him or stay home. He has absolutely nothing to gain from saying anything bad about Bernie.

Bernie, it could go either way. He could be tough on Trump to show Democratic voters how tough he is, but he could also find common ground with Trump and jointly go after Hillary. Probably a bit of both.

Doesn't look like it's happening though, apparently Trump is backing out.

[cali]

21. Agreed. Trump would attempt to make it all about Hillary.

[hollowdweller]

5. Bernie and Warren are going to help Hillary on Trump.

The Clinton camp is like the Trump camp in that they have taken numerous positions over time, Clinton and Trump are the wealthy elite, nobody knows what either stands for.

So Warren and Bernie who know what they stand for are going to define the attack FOR Hillary.

[hrmjustin]

7. I don't trust Sanders. He will use the opportunity to sabotage Hillary.

[hellofromreddit]

22. What makes you think Bernie will sabotage Hillary?

[hrmjustin]

23. I don't trust him.

[hellofromreddit]

24. Well, yeah, but what happened to make you distrust him? Something specific or just his general tone?

[hrmjustin]

25. The way he easily attavks fellow Democrats.

[yodermon]

28. it's called a primary. for fuck's sake. n/t

[hellofromreddit]

30. You think he'll attack Hillary because you don't trust him because you think he'll attack democrats?

That's roundly circular.

[B Calm]

27. I thought you guys wanted Bernie to stop attacking poor victimized Hillary and go after

Trump. So now Bernie goes after Trump and you still play the victim card. Unbelievable!

[hrmjustin]

29. You think Sanders won't use the debate to attack Hillary?

[B Calm]

35. Don't see that happening.

[basselope]

33. He can't do anything more than what she has already done to herself.

[MariaThinks]

31. trump was joking and making a fool out of bernie.

[hellofromreddit]

34. You're admiring Trump? How shocking!

Next you'll be touting the strategic acumen of Putin.

[frylock]

38. Making a fool out of Bernie?

I think the fools are all the Hillary supporters wetting themselves over this.

[KingFlorez]

32. There isn't going to be a debate

Trump tricked Sanders. http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/05/26/report-trump-was-joking-about-debating-bernie.html

[hellofromreddit]

37. Yeah, Trump's a liar, but I was addressing the threads accusing Sanders of...I dont know.

The posts were mostly from our barely-literate posters, so they can be hard to make sense of. The general complaint seems to be that Sanders was jumping at a chance to damage Hillary for his own gain/pleasure/whatever.

I was pointing out that this could possibly benefit all of us (including Hillary) by damaging Trump.

But, hey, Trump acting like a giant pussy will damage Trump anyway.