Did Hillary punk California and the Democrats by not doing a debate that she agreed to do?

[Dawgs]

[still_one]

1. nope. Hillary has events scheduled all this week in California. I will be going to one

this afternoon.

[HerbChestnut]

2. You know she promised to debate in California back in February, right?

[still_one]

5. Californians already know where the candidates stand on the issues. If you are from California, and

believe that is a major issue, then show it by your vote on June 7th

[HerbChestnut]

25. That doesn't matter. A promise is a promise.

[scscholar]

28. Did she promise to do a debate even when the primary is already over?

The debate can't change the outcome of the primary. It is meaningless.

[HerbChestnut]

29. She promised to do a debate in California before the June 7th primary. Period.

There's no dancing around this one. She's breaking a promise and not even trying to hide the fact.

[ljm2002]

39. She promised to do a debate in California in May...

...it was pretty cut and dried. There were no caveats about where their respective delegate numbers were.

But hey, sometimes a promise is not a promise? Like when it's inconvenient, I guess.

[pangaia]

51. Hillary agreed and promised do a debate.

She lied. Nothing new to see.

She just blows with the wind, as we have known for decades. I wouldn't trust her to take out the garbage.

[Dawgs]

3. That's just a sad answer.

[still_one]

4. Are you from California?

[Dawgs]

6. No. nt

[still_one]

9. Here is the point I am making. If those of us in California are upset by this, it should get

reflected on June 7th in the results

[still_one]

45. I realize that, and we are on different sides of the fence on this

[still_one]

55. I know, I agree

[arcane1]

7. Nope, it was just yet another lie from her n/t

[still_one]

11. I see we are both from California, and we will see on June 7th if the voters in California are upset

about this or not

[arcane1]

15. I never underestimate the stupidity of Americans.

Trump got nominated, after all.

[still_one]

19. You do have a point, but it is what it is. We all know about Arnold and

the Davis recall. However, California did learn pretty quick, and we have Jerry Brown

[arcane1]

20. I'm hopeful, but I won't go as far as to say I'm optimistic

If that made any sense

[still_one]

22. ...............

[Luminous Animal]

56. We got Arnold twice. That is how stupid we are.

[still_one]

59. True, but one was not a full term

[eastwestdem]

8. The race is over. No more debates needed. It's time to unify and a Dem-on-Dem brawl will not

accomplish this goal.

[Dawgs]

14. Sorry, but Hillary not taking advantage of free media and ability to attack Trump is just stupid.

Sadly, it's not surprising.

The better question is, 'why is she afraid to get her message out?'.

[pangaia]

52. What message? Today's or last month's?

[casperthegm]

21. First, race isn't over

Yes, the math heavily favors HRC and she will most likely be the nominee. Second, did either of them say something to the effect of "if one of us is near the nomination then we are no longer obligated?" If so, could you please show me the evidence that backs that up?

Because if not, Hillary lied. Hard to imagine, right?

[Dem2]

10. Nice try

No more ridiculously boring debates as we agreed to here during the last snoozefest.

[Dawgs]

12. Huh? Can you clarify? nt

[Dem2]

13. Several of us were saying during the last debate that it was repetitive and boring

Please, no more debates! Nothing new ever happens and both sides say their candidate won, when it's become irrelevant.

[Dawgs]

16. Free media, ability to attack Trump, avoid going back on your word, attract Bernie supporters.

Do you just want her to hide up until the election?

[Dem2]

17. Strawman

C'mon, your motives are so obvious, can we dispense with the strawman responses?

[Dawgs]

30. Huh? Strawman?

Do you know what that word means?

[Dem2]

44. " Do you just want her to hide up until the election?"

Do you know what a strawman is?

You misrepresented my argument (in a ridiculing way to boot), that's a strawman. Learn it.

[Dawgs]

46. LOL! That's not what strawman means.

[Dem2]

50. OK

strawman
You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.
By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable, but this kind of dishonesty serves to undermine honest rational debate.

I guess you fail. Are you going to be childish and post more gibberish?

[EndElectoral]

18. Yes, she did.

[casperthegm]

23. What bothers me isn't that Hillary lied

It's not exactly something new for her. What bothers me is that her supporters just shrug it off, just like all of the other transgressions that they've shrugged off. This is just another example of the huge split within our party. One that demands politicians be held accountable and one that has seemingly just given up and says "eh, that's the way politics work."

[LexVegas]

24. Bernie got swept. Game 5, 6 and 7 are unnecessary.

[Dawgs]

34. This isn't about Bernie. It's about her keeping her word and getting her message out for the GE.

Her approval numbers are tanking and the party is splitting. She could use it as an opportunity to attack Trump and bring the Bernie supporters to her side. Why not do it?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/clinton_favorableunfavorable-1131.html

[Trust Buster]

26. Why not let the voters decide. Only candidates that find themselves far behind are chomping

at the bit for more debates this late in the cycle. Bernie is telling you something,,..,LOL

[Dawgs]

33. She agreed to the debate. Why is she hiding now?

She has the opportunity to attack Trump, get free air time, bring Bernie voters to her side, and show that she does not go back on her word.

Why not do it for those reasons?

[Tarc]

36. Zero fucks given

There is no point in debating further when the primary is already done with.

[Dawgs]

40. It's not done with. Californians haven't voted yet.

Did she lie when she said she would do this debate? Looks that way.

[Tarc]

42. Sanders cannot carry California at 68%

As it has always been, the math just doesn't add up for him.

[polly7]

27. She sure did. nt.

[Cali_Democrat]

31. We've had enough debates. nt

[Dawgs]

32. Why is she hiding? Does she not want to beat Trump?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512059059#post13

[msongs]

35. sanders sold out to racist fox news for free PR then dumped the sellout on hilllary by surprise.

she is wise not to fall for this scam

[Dawgs]

38. Hillary has never had a problem appearing on Fox so that argument is bullshit.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4790721226001/part-2-of-the-fox-news-democratic-presidential-town-hall/?#sp=show-clips

And, she agreed to do another debate before the California voting. Why did she lie?

Blaming any of this on Bernie is just pathetic.

[Prism]

41. All the California media I've read have framed it as "Clinton breaks promise"

Which I thought was interesting.

Will it matter? Eh, we'll see.

I expect Sanders to take the very liberal areas handily, but there are a lot of illiberal areas in Cali. The state's Democratic lock is carried by urban areas. I expect the Bay Area will be heavily for Sanders, but LA and Orange County will go heavily for Clinton.

Right now, and I know this can change, I expect a Clinton/Sanders result of 53-47.

[brooklynite]

43. How many undecided Californians were waiting for another debate to make up their minds?

[Dawgs]

47. I don't know. Ask Hillary.

She's the one that felt it necessary back when she agreed to do it.

[Luminous Animal]

57. No party preference voters are allowed to vote in the Dem primary. It is another opporutinity to

get them to the polls.

[Codeine]

48. I don't give two tugs of a dead dog's dick about yet another

debate. The game is over.

[Dawgs]

49. You should. Unless you think it's good to hide against someone that's already beating her.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512059059#post13

[Number23]

63. Who's beating Hillary? Where? HOW?

[thelordofhell]

53. No.

[Lil Missy]

58. Game Over. Bernie just wants free air time. He's broke.

[Starry Messenger]

60. I've already voted for her by mail for the CA primary.

[B Calm]

61. That many voters deserve a debate.

[Attorney in Texas]

62. she punked her own campaign

[2banon]

64. No, she didn't punk Californians or even Bernie Supporters

She's punkin' the would be "Moderators"...

The timing is all wrong for her... the questions would have been devastating.. She have to plead the 5th to every question posed to her on a certain subject by the moderators.

Timing is everything...