Whatever Happened To Arizona Weren't We Close Enought To Pull It Out There

[iloveObama12]

those gop lawmakers/politicians in that state are something else

[Jackpine Radical]

1. We may have a little trouble in Nebraska & Kansas too.

Obama is Dooooooooomed!

[Kalidurga]

2. I never thought we were counting on Arizona.

If Obama wins Arizona great, it shows the people aren't as loony as I think they are. If he loses, well so what.

[phantom power]

3. AZ is a lot more purple than it used to be, however...

my feeling is AZ could be "in play" *if* they devoted a lot of resources to taking it. That wasn't the strategy this year. Mind you, I don't think that was necessarily a bad call. The conservative base here runs deep, but steady influx of new residents over the last 30 years, combined with demographic changes like increasing hispanic ratios are slowly but steadily eroding the conservative hold.

[geek tragedy]

4. States don't flip abruptly over one election cycle.

They typically take 2-3 frustrating attempts before they flip.

See, e.g., Virginia.

Arizona will be the next such battleground, but it will take time and an aging Latino population.

[bornskeptic]

7. Bush beat Kerry in NC by more than 12, and in Indiana by 20.

Four years later Obama won both. McCain only beat Obama by 9 in AZ, and he was a favorite son. I don't expect us to carry Arizona this year, but I won't be shocked if we do.

[geek tragedy]

9. Indiana was an aberration, it's regained its status as a deep red state.

NC was a case of changing demographics. And it's the least likely swing state to stay in our column.

Contrasted with VA, CO, which are now permanent swing states we can win every cycle, at worst.

[LeftInTX]

5. There was one poll awhile back that showed AZ +2

But that was only one poll.

I think it was an outlier

[Applan]

6. Interestingly enough though

I saw my first anti-Obama ads on TV here in Phoenix last night. I thought: Hmmm, is Willard getting worried about losing one of his "firewall" states?

[oldhippydude]

8. i was hoping, and still hope we elect Carmona this time...

i always thought the senate seat was the plum this year there...

[Wellstone ruled]

10. The power structure

in Arizona is under the control of the Mormon Church and a handful of Vulture Capital funds. So many folks have left because of the total bust that accued. Going to take a few years to recover and then there will be new people moving back. These idiots are still fighting the Spanish American war,mean while their brain power split to other areas of the U.S.. Here in the Southwest,it's going to be a;east 5 or more years to recover from this housing debacle. When you have close to 10 thousand homes and condo for sale in Vegas alone,do the math. Phoenix area is setting in the same situation. All the characters involved in the housing rip off have come in and bought these properties and are now trying do flip them.