Is the amount of time in the party more important than the message?

[kpola12]

[840high]

1. Not to me.

[Recursion]

2. That cuts both ways. Lots of people like Sanders *despite* his message because he's "outside"

Or at least cultivates that image. It's a disappointing cycle all around.

[roguevalley]

8. she's only been a dem since 1968. I've been one longer and never a republican

[Hekate]

13. How lovely to know yourself from birth and never have to grow and learn and evolve

She stopped being a Repub shortly after entering college, and in 1968 worked on the presidential campaign of Senator Eugene McCarthy, Democrat, who was anti-war before Bobby Kennedy. That was quite the seminal year for those of us just turning 21 and getting to vote for the first time ever.

But hey, that taint you refer to is like having been born a bastard, I guess. In some people's minds, it tars one for life.

[Art_from_Ark]

15. I doubt she's been a Dem since 1968

She attended the 1968 Republican National Convention as a Rockefeller supporter. While she did meet Bill while they were both campaigning for McGovern in 1972, when she moved to Arkansas she did not have to declare a party affiliation. However, it would have been political suicide in those days to be a declared Republican while married to a rising star in the Arkansas Democratic Party, especially since it was the dominant party in those days. So she had to at least say she was a Democrat. But by the 1980s, she had become a partner in a law firm that specialized in defending corporate clients, often against ordinary citizens. During that same decade, she also hooked up with the state's richest Republicans, and served on the Wal-Mart board of directors. Several of those rich Republicans donated to Bill's 1992 presidential campaign. So really, I have trouble believing that she actually was a Big D Democrat for the whole time she was in Arkansas.

[elleng]

3. No, not at all,

in particular when the message has been so strong for so long, but don't let that confuse the

[DJ13]

4. If the only thing changed is party affiliation, but its the same message for decades

no, time in the party makes no difference.

Its when the person completely changes their views just to take advantage of the current mood of voters that theres anything wrong.

[Lucky Luciano]

6. Yeah. Now who is it that might have changed their minds to suit the mood of the voters?

[Ken Burch]

11. It's bad that the guy has a CONSISTENT message?

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It's a bad thing to NOT sell out?

[DJ13]

16. I think you misunderstand

The decades without change, and that not being a bad thing, referred to Bernie.

Sorry for the confusion.

[Ken Burch]

18. Oh. Got ya.

Still, there are people in this party who WOULD see uncompromised convictions as a bad thing.

[DJ13]

19. Thats so true

[onecaliberal]

5. No

[1StrongBlackMan]

7. I guess it depends on what the message is.

[Ken Burch]

12. In this case, the message is "Justice For All".

Not a bad thing for our party to stand for.

[1StrongBlackMan]

22. LOL ... Nice baiting.

[MohRokTah]

9. In every case, more time in the psrty = message more in line with the party

As proof I present 3 million more votes for the real Democrat with the Socialist trailing by hundreds of delegates.

The real Democrat is also poised to clinch on June 7.

[Ken Burch]

20. It's not anti-Democratic to be a Socialist.

A lot of Democrats(not all, but a lot)are socialists or social democrats. And if you are a Democrat, you have no reason to see socialists as the enemy. Basically, every good idea a liberal ever put into practice started with those of us on the left.

And this is no longer a country that is implacably anti-left.

Bernie is just as much as Real Democrat as HRC.

[JackRiddler]

10. Truth is, Sanders has been in as long as Clinton.

In the House since 1990, as an Independent, yes. Who has caucused and voted with the Democrats pretty much the whole way since then. And in all the exceptions, it happens he was right!

[Live and Learn]

14. Nope. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Voting for a label is like betting on horse because it has the prettiest stirrups.

[bemildred]

21. Parties should be about policy, about how the country is to be governed, nothing less. nt

[randome]

23. Is the message more important than the ability to lead?

I guess you could say "Sometimes". But in this case, the voters clearly like the message but aren't that crazy about the messenger, meaning Sanders. But they must think Clinton comes closest to having all the bases covered.
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