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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:35 PM May 2016

Really?

Josh Marshall at Talking Points Memo:

Excerpts:

It is truly difficult for me to imagine that a Trump v Sanders debate is really going to happen. But it is an amazingly terrible idea for anyone who cares about preventing Trump from being the next President. Indeed, does anyone alive believe this helps elect a Democratic president? And if not, what is the rationale? Perhaps it's a wash. Sideshows in May probably don't have that much effect. But it certainly does not help.

It is only a spectacle by which both candidates, Trump and Sanders, can indulge their tacitly-agreed common interest in sidelining and diminishing Hillary Clinton, who of course will be the nominee. I don't want to speculate about Sanders' motives, other than that it is probably a good way to elevate himself into the appearance of an ersatz Democratic standard-bearer and to get media attention which has slackened as most of the attention has moved toward the general election. That would be perfectly understandable if we didn't know for a certainty that he is not going to be the nominee and that this would be bad for the person who is. Remember: President Trump.

I think there's a very good chance it would descend into a Hillary-bashing fest. Indeed, how could it not? That would obviously be Trump's overriding interest and aim. And it would be at best awkward for Sanders to be in the position of aggressively defending Clinton.

Great theater and spectacle. It would be great fun to watch - if we didn't have a campaign going on in which the fight to keep Donald Trump out of the White House depends entirely on how much Hillary Clinton can unify Democratic support behind her candidacy. Like I said, I really, really doubt this will happen. In addition to everything else, it would probably give Trump the ability to skim more money from a charity event.

If it does happen, it would really, really make me question what Sanders' motives or simply what he is thinking. Do we want a President Trump or not?


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Armstead

(47,803 posts)
6. Poor Clinton
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:48 PM
May 2016

If she has to be treated so gingerly....How the hell is she ever going to survive the nadtiness of the general election?

Because she's tough as nails and this is just more political posturing to cement her preordainef coronation as the presumptive nominee...

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
8. Hillary is one tough ole broad.
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:50 PM
May 2016

And that's one of the reasons I'll support her until the last dog dies.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
9. Read my post again...I said she is tough
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:54 PM
May 2016

I also said things like the article in the OP are just piliticsl posturing To marginaluze Sanders, not genuine concern.

Bernie is not likely to be the nominee - but with about 40 percent if the vote so far, and close in Cally, he's not chopped liver -- and neither are his supporters

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. no, some just expect Sanders to actually behave as if he thinks defeating Trump
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:11 AM
May 2016

is more important than gratifying his own ego.

I do not expect it, because I am not convinced he wants Clinton to defeat Trump.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
10. Clinton and Sanders are both getting LOTS of attention right now.
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:56 PM
May 2016

Of course, the attention Sanders is getting isn't career-ending.

See you in California.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. It is very much an open question whether Sanders really thinks
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:04 AM
May 2016

defeating Trump is the most important thing. His behavior does not indicate so.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
16. Twitter is of course all over this. Names for this fiasco of a debate:
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:44 AM
May 2016
https://twitter.com/hashtag/SandersTrumpDebateNames?src=tren

Jodi Williams ☔️ ?@Jodi_Williams_ 3h3 hours ago
All the Unpresidential Men #SandersTrumpDebateNames

Kaivan Shroff ?@KaivanShroff 4h4 hours ago
The Bad Hair Day #SandersTrumpDebateNames

Dragons Dont Die ?@DragonsDontDie 6h6 hours ago
Your Tired vs Your Fired
#SandersTrumpDebateNames

And my personal favorite

Benny ?@BRios82 6h6 hours ago
The "We're losing to a woman and desperately need more attention" debate. #SandersTrumpDebateNames

But this one was weird and didn't make any sense to me:

Antonius Bloch ?@Antonius_Bloch 4h4 hours ago
Acts like an adult diaper
VS
Needs an adult diaper

#SandersTrumpDebateNames
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