Most people don't care about the emails

[bravenak]

We just don't.

Nothing you can say or do will make the email extravaganza into the dire situation you want it to be.

Why?

Nobody cares.

I know it got some folks excited.

I know they are waiting with bated breath for her to be forcibly taken into custody, to serve a life sentence in a labor camp in Arizona over these emails.


Won't happen.

Stop hoping for terrible things to happen to a nice woman who worked hard to become the Democratic Nominee.

Let's just turn our attention onto Trump.

Once people stop with the nasty attacks on the nominee, we can come together. We are waiting on you to come aboard.

[think]

1. Could you be a little more obtuse?

[bravenak]

2. Nope

[think]

3. I'm sure you could

[bravenak]

4. I'll try harder

[think]

5. You're already there

[bravenak]

8. My work is done then

[think]

12. Congratulations

[bravenak]

15. Thanks!

[think]

19. You earned it. Now you can tell us how people don't care about public corruption. Take your time

with that one...

[bravenak]

25. Do they care? Where are the protests?

[Ash_F]

43. You are correct there are more troubling issues

http://www.caribbean360.com/news/protests-continue-hillary-clintons-role-haiti

[bravenak]

46. Will not affect the general against kkk trump

[Ash_F]

47. People care.

[bravenak]

52. Of course they do

But average voters care about what they want to. And how is Trump any better? He aint. Bernie? Has not even studied the issues outside of the USA and socialist leaning european nations. Every foreign policy question gets no answer. People care more about seeming competent in a variety of areas than being right on one issue or another.

[Ash_F]

54. I am not advocating for either Trump or Bernie here, only that people do care about corruption.

Maybe you don't think it is corruption, but it is their perception regardless.

[bravenak]

60. Not enough care enough

Corruption is as old as humanity. We learn to navigate it even as we despise it.

[Ash_F]

67. They care if it affects them

That is why people have to organize.

[bravenak]

68. Gotta have a diverse coalition working towards the same goals

Not a bunch of folks screaming at the rest of us.

[Ash_F]

91. I am not screaming at anyone

But I can understand why some do.

[bravenak]

93. I think that poor woman passed away

Let us let her rest in peace

[think]

72. Do you really believe the shit you post?

[bravenak]

85. Mostly

[think]

86. I believe you

[MADem]

26. The person being obtuse is the one who decries the logic of the OP.

Even Sanders said that no one cares about her "damned" emails.

How soon they forget.

[think]

41. Well, you are loyal. You've got that going for you....

[MADem]

73. Most people who support HRC feel as I do--that petty haters are engaging in a bullshit witch hunt.

The more they do it, the more sympathetic she becomes.

[think]

75. Good luck all in ....

[Arazi]

50. No, he said he's tired of hearing @ her emails

That doesn't equate to not caring.

It means he wants to bring other topics to the fore to discuss.

Y'all should be damn grateful he's giving her a pass on this. It's an enormous elephant in this primary he's let her off on. I find it incredible Hillary supporters think Bernie’s been hard on HRC. Frankly he's been tremendously deferential

[MADem]

71. If he doesn't want to hear about them, why continuously bring them up,

save to try and "ding" her over them?

I don't give a half-crap about them. I don't know a soul who supports her who does, either.

George Bush's White House 'disappeared' millions of emails and used an RNC server and Yahoo mail for government business.

So....forgive me if I just can't get excited about this.

The antique system at the State Department was hacked. Hillary wasn't.

You just won't get me to care--and I know I am not alone.

[Arazi]

79. Uhm, its the MSM that's now got this bone to pick

Not Bernie.

Hillary’s had a good run trying to control the messengers. Seems a boatload of them have suddenly decided to actually look into her server problem.

Hillary supporters may already be hardened on the issue, independents in future primaries not so much

[seekthetruth]

138. I don't give a shit about the emails.

Hillary's policies are enough to disqualify her to be the right person for the job.

Just more of the same shit that has been pushed down on us since the 80s.

You guys are blind.

[MADem]

152. You've only been here for a few months--don't act like you know "us guys"

or our degree of visual acuity.

You should try disagreeing without being quite so disagreeable. Nothing like a few insults and name calling to draw people to your cause!

[seekthetruth]

153. I'm sorry?

So I can't be in your club because I've only been here a couple of months???? Oh poor me....

Gimme a break.

I can use a nifty smiley too.....see there?

[MADem]

160. "You guys are blind." Your words.

You want people to engage you in substantive discussion, don't toss insults. You want to fling shit, there are better places to do that.

You clearly haven't read the TOS (or if you have, you're willfully ignoring it) --maybe you should do that before you persist with the snark.

[Sheepshank]

186. what was so "obtuse" about the OP? It was extremely clear, with short easy to read sentences

you personally may not agree with the message, you may not like the message, but the message was quite clear.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

6. It could be that you're in the wrong forum if this is something you don't care about.

Lots of people do.

It will be discussed.

[BootinUp]

7. A kick for sanity!

[bravenak]

10. Yay!

[Scootaloo]

9. Okay. Thanks for chiming in.

[AgingAmerican]

11. It's irrelevent what most people think

It's only relevant what the FBI and DOJ think

[840high]

169. .that^

[Shadowflash]

178. Yup.

nt

[Iliyah]

13. Agreed.

[bravenak]

18. I want this over so bad

It's getting stupid.

[timmymoff]

14. Most people= Hillary supporters who

overlooked every other transgression, terrible policy , bad vote, and the other things that lead to her lack of trust garnered by Americans. Let's keep our attention here. This is the type of shit that will help Trump win, sticking heads in the sand like has been done with everything else seems like a bad strategy.

[bravenak]

16. Most rational humans

Non conspiracy theorists. It actually includes many many Bernie supporters

[timmymoff]

28. No.. most people do not overlook possible breaches of national security

most people do not overlook actions that someone who is privileged think they can take over law. Just because you want this to be true do not say most people. Most people do not like that kind of shit. Period!

[bravenak]

31. Most people are not even following this story. Cause they dont care about it.

[Cha]

164. Hey Aloha brave, baby.. Most People think you're Awesome!

I should know!

all they got are their little personal insults.. says everything about who they are and absolutely nothing about their targets.

& a little worker bee!

[bravenak]

165. Thank you

[Cha]

166. You're

[redstateblues]

78. Breaches of national security? straight from Fox

You're getting a little ahead of yourself

[ucrdem]

17. Hear, hear.

The problem is that she was the boss and the guy above her is working 24/7 to get her elected to his job.

[bravenak]

22. Best to run as a Dem if you care about the party

Cannot win otherwise. Now they know.

[Press Virginia]

20. The day after a report is issued undercutting HRC's year long

Claims that what did did was allowed and totally above board, we keep being told it's no big deal.

She lied. Again.

If we are people of principle, it should matter that our potential nominee has a problem telling the truth.

[bravenak]

23. I really do not see it that way

[Press Virginia]

35. How could you not?

When the IG report explicitly says she made no request to the SD to use a private server and had she done so it would have been denied, there's a real problem with what she's been saying over the last year.

The fact that she and her campaign keep mischaracterizing the FBI investigation and pretending her use of a private server is the same thing Colin Powell did is troubling.

Do we care if our nominee is honest and trustworthy or is it just about winning the GE?

[bravenak]

39. Easily

The rules were not followed by other SoS. Why should I want her in prison for record keeping issues?! They found the emails. Why do I care? I dont.

[Press Virginia]

49. Other SOS didn't run their e-mail out of their basement then lie

and say it was approved and compliant with SD rules and policies.

And she did it to avoid FOIA requests. How can anyone believe her when she claims to be "the most transparent public official in recent times" when there is evidence to the contrary?

And if there's classified information on her server, she should be prosecuted..just like any GSer who violates the law

[bravenak]

57. Oh well, people still are not frothing at the mouths over it

[Press Virginia]

64. Her emails are the leading reason given for her trust numbers

[bravenak]

66. Trumps numbers are worse

Reasons for that? Racism, sexism, xenophobia. Much worse than emails.

[Press Virginia]

74. So what? does that make HRC honest and trustworthy or just

the lesser of two evils?

[bravenak]

106. She will still win

[Press Virginia]

110. Maybe. Maybe she gets indicted.

[bravenak]

112. Sad that you hope for that

[Press Virginia]

114. I hope she's treated the same as any GSer who violated

the laws concerning classified information.

[bravenak]

115. Who else have you gone after with such gusto over record keeping besides her?

[Press Virginia]

123. Who else is running for POTUS with an active FBI investigation

into her actions and an IG report that says she not only broke the rules regarding record keeping, she did so using an unauthorized server

[bravenak]

124. Okay. Nobody.

[Press Virginia]

126. right now, she's the only one that matters

[bravenak]

127. Bernie cant even find his taxes and we supposed to be all aflutter over emails? No

[Press Virginia]

128. why are his taxes relevant to HRC's lies and blatant attempt to

Circumvent FOIA requests?

[bravenak]

130. She is the epitome of transparency compared to him

[Press Virginia]

133. Really? Did she release her transcripts for her speeches to the banks?

the IG report certainly doesn't support her being transparent

[bravenak]

137. Of course not. The speeches were from her private self employment

All candidates release the taxes except Trump and Bernie.

[Press Virginia]

143. Ahhhh...she claimed she lectured the banks about their evil ways

certainly we should be able to see how rough she was with her largest donors?

Why are tax returns relevant? Senators file financial disclosure forms. They are public records

[bravenak]

145. Why should I care what she said in the speeches

[Press Virginia]

167. only a mindless drone wouldn't

[TSIAS]

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[Press Virginia]

190. Wow. I wasn't even trying to insult him

and certainly didn't mean to.

[Gore1FL]

192. Even if you were, it didn't rise to the level of hide.

All DU juries seem to be for anymore is alert-trolling opportunities.

[Press Virginia]

197. I expect more of it. The HRC group can't wait

to unleash their wrath upon dissenters to the queen.

[Gore1FL]

198. I am not sure why people want to make DU suck.

The alert trolling is out of hand.

[Press Virginia]

80. Just saw the latest numbers HRC 19% trustworthy, Trump is at 35%

[bravenak]

88. Link? Was it a fox news poll?

[Press Virginia]

90. NBC

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017377513

[bravenak]

95. Oh well. That is Trumps ceiling, her floor

[Press Virginia]

99. You think the IG report is going to drive her numbers up?

Especially when it contradicts her claim that what she did was allowed?

[bravenak]

101. I think ending the primary will

Time to go

[Press Virginia]

104. Yeaaaah...that's what's making people associate the words liar

dishonest and untrustworthy with her. The primary

[bravenak]

105. No. It was a buncha liars blaming everything on her that made people think that

Going against the ultimate liar will change things. People will choose her.

[Press Virginia]

117. Yeaaaah...it wasn't the lies she told

[bravenak]

121. Exactly

[Gore1FL]

191. Her floor seems to keep dropping. nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

103. I think you just found her new campaign slogan: Trump's Numbers Are Worse. Lovely.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. It does not matter if you care dear

[danimich1]

24. More Clinton scandals

You should care. Assuming she wins the election, How will she get anything done when she will be caught up in investigation after investigation? How many taxpayer dollars have already been spent investigating her? How many more?

I really don't think she can win the election. People who have brains will sit out this election. Trump will win. Quit burying your head in the sand. You should care.

[bravenak]

27. But I dont care about the stupid emails.

[Press Virginia]

40. neither did HRC. She didn't care about rules, laws

or anything that didn't involve her political ambitions

[bravenak]

45. Your spin

Voters are not caring

[Press Virginia]

58. Spin? Theres a government audit that supports my position

and her emails are the top reason given when people are asked why they don't trust her.

[redstateblues]

76. Rules not laws were broken. Quelle horror

Seems I remember Sanders ran afoul of the election finance reporting rules

[Press Virginia]

77. The rules are in place to comply with the law. She intentionally sought

to avoid complying with the law.
It doesn't carry a criminal charge but it is a law she willfully tried to circumvent

[redstateblues]

81. No laws. Rules maybe. You are spouting shit that's not true

[Press Virginia]

82. The rules are in place so people comply with the law

it doesn't carry a criminal charge but you can't say she followed the laws by ignoring the rules, put in place, to be compliant with the law

[Seeinghope]

94. What about other voters caring? How will this effect her votes from Independents,

Disenchanted Republicans, Bernie Sanders supporters? Don't you think ANY of them care?

Remember now, Hillary Clinton has high ratings for not being trusted. Don't you think that this will just make those ratings go even higher?

People who care about some honest from their leaders will care and rightfully so.

Many people don't care when Trump incites violence at his rallies.

[bravenak]

97. I do not care who they vote for

Enough of us will see sense enough to stop Trump

[alittlelark]

29. The DOJ and FBI aren't 'most people'.

'Most people' in this country tend to be somewhat oblivious and distracted. Those two groups are not.

[Iliyah]

44. She will not be indicted because she did nothing wrong

GOP made up scandal carried by them and the "far left".

[Arazi]

30. Yet here you are calling for Bernie to be stripped of power in the Senate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512062967#post37

Such a unity message.

Destroy him eh?

[bravenak]

32. He is running for senate as an independent

He should be primaried and have no committe assignment of the party he calls corrupt. Still following me around? Dang!

[barrow-wight]

34. I agree with her.

[barrow-wight]

33. Here's the thing.

They gotta talk about something. Most of them would rather scorch the earth for a Trump win than have their candidate lose. And the admins have decided that they're waiting for the last primary election votes to call it, because, well, fights on here probably generate as much revenue in ad views as an episode of the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I'm frankly surprised they aren't waiting till the convention and won't be shocked if they do. It's a shame because it just shows that even all this Bernie vitriol on this site is really just about the money like everything else.

[bravenak]

36. It's driving down clicks at this point

Too many Hillary supporters have found new homes. Makes sense to call it soon and rebuild, rather than have an anti dem site, which becomes embarassing after a point.

[Logical]

48. BS, no one is leaving here unless they got suspended. Nt

[bravenak]

53. You dont know everybody in america

[Logical]

55. Neither do you, list 25 who have left. Nt

[bravenak]

69. No.

[Logical]

181. I assumed you were making shit up. nt

[alittlelark]

56. Glad to hear H supporters are finding new venues.

I'm sure they will be happy there with all the other Ostriches.

[bravenak]

65. The ostriches are here and at jpr

[barrow-wight]

96. That ship has sailed.

This largely is an anti-dem site. Any Democrat who speaks against Bernie is vilified. It's no longer about the issues. It's about the candidate. They're even calling themselves Berniecrats. I like Hillary Clinton, don't get me wrong, but the day I call myself a Hillarycrat is, well, like, NEVER. LOL

[bravenak]

102. The deification is sick

[barrow-wight]

107. Nauseating in fact.

[mindwalker_i]

37. "We just don't. "

This means "most people" refers to people like you, who agree with you. Quite possibly meaning Hillary supporters. Given the amount of stuff Hillary supporters are capable of ignoring or brushing aside - basically, because they are not capable of processing information that paints their deity in a bad light - this is not surprising.

As for "most people" referring to the larger population, I have no data. You have not presented any data. The lack of security on potentially critical e-mail could, and actually should , be made into a serious issue. That you brush it aside has no bearing on it.

[bravenak]

42. Nobody cares about the emails

Not my fault. It's just not something the average voter is following or voting for. Do not care.

[Logical]

51. Explain her honesty numbers then. Nt

[bravenak]

70. Buncha liars blame her for everything

[mindwalker_i]

159. Oh geez!

The crack is strong with this one!

[AtomicKitten]

59. 19

[JoePhilly]

61. The media, the GOP, and the Bernouts have been flooging this for a year or more.

They'll all cling to it for as long as they can.

And then, when it dies ... they'll jump to some new outrage.

[bravenak]

100. When she is sworn in they will think Bernie will get enough superdelegates to stop it

[BootinUp]

62. We missed you bravenak!

[bravenak]

89. Cheers!

[betsuni]

63. I've no idea why I have to care about the damn emails and don't waste time doing so.

Looking at GDP, it's like last call at Hillary Haters Happy Hour.

[bravenak]

87. They have to get their last digs in

Looks so sad

[morningfog]

83. OIG, FBI, DOJ and two federal judges.

Those are not partisan people or organizations looking to score political points. They all have found evidence of bad faith and/or violations of the law. It's not small potato nothing here.

[bravenak]

92. Nothing that rises to the level of prison time

And really, not many are following the story, just die hard Hillary haters like My republican buddy who just stopped by. He swears she is going down. He is crazy.

[morningfog]

108. Nothing that rises to prison time! Helluva standard.

From what the public knows now, none of the unlawful acts are punishable by prison time, or any penalty really.

However, the OIG report raised many questions which are left unresolved that the FBI have no doubt answered by now.

I have no idea how this will play out and neither do you or anyone else who is speaking. We don't know what the FBI has been zeroing in on. I suspect they've read all of the deleted emails which Hillary self-identified as "personal." Who knows what is in there.

I don't expect Hillary to be indicted. I certainly hope she is not indicted. But, you see the problem. We are talking about whether the to be democratic nominee for president is exposed to criminal liability. That is an incredible risk for us.

[bravenak]

111. People still bring up Vince Foster

I am just not going to fall into the anti hillary trap again

[morningfog]

118. That's fine. She can do no wrong in your eyes.

You are fooling yourself if you think the rest of the county is as trusting of her as you.

I am not. Like I said I have no idea where this is going and I do not simply trust that Hillary and her staff did nothing wrong or that we know the whole story yet.

[bravenak]

120. You know damn well I have my issues with hillary

[redstateblues]

84. More ginned up pout rage from people who aren't voting Democratic anyway

There is no there there.

[bravenak]

98. Exactly

[TheCowsCameHome]

109. Yeah, no big deal.

Like hell it isn't.

[bravenak]

113. Won't have any effect on this contest

[TheCowsCameHome]

116. Combined with everything else

it will.

[bravenak]

119. Only if you guys make it

[TheCowsCameHome]

122. "You guys?"

[bravenak]

125. The people who oppose her so much they want her indicted

[TheCowsCameHome]

129. Oh. Thats "them"

Not "you"

[bravenak]

131. I dont think it makes sense to put her in jail

[TheCowsCameHome]

134. No need to go that far.

[bravenak]

136. Just indict her so Bernie can win then recind the indictment? Yeah, no.

[TheCowsCameHome]

141. Let the chips fall where they may.

That's life, sometimes.

[bravenak]

142. Too bad for you it aint happnin

[TheCowsCameHome]

144. You sound pretty confident.

Got an inside track?

[bravenak]

146. Reality

[snowy owl]

132. Most people don't care about politics. Does that make not caring OK?

[bravenak]

140. It makes them likely not to vote or to give a shit about the emails if they do vote

[snowy owl]

149. You make a lot of assumptions. I agree they don't care about emails.

They vote like most people - loyalty and party affiliation. Obviously, Bernie supporters don't fit the profile because he is a new Democrat and he had little name recognition. We, the informed, vote issues.

[bravenak]

150. He needed to start earlier and hire better staffers

They dropped the ball early and gave bad advice.

[JCanete]

135. Bernie supporter, don't care about the emails...but hell fucking no

I'm not going to just play along and turn my attention to Trump. I'll take the long-shot thank you, and when it doesn't pan out, and no I have no illusions, I'll keep seriously weighing the consequences of using my vote to legitimize a candidate and her corporatist positions. I'm not comfortable with giving Clinton's future giveaways or slaps on the wrist the cover of a "mandate", or the DNC the assurance it needs to continue to give us bad candidates that we have no choice but to vote for ....or else "batshit dude" or "Crazy eyes!"

The DNC can count on my vote in all primaries to come though, and on most down-ticket contests.

[bravenak]

139. Do what you will

[cherokeeprogressive]

147. We call those people LOW INFORMATION VOTERS.

And, we will EDUCATE THEM.

[bravenak]

148. Even against their will, I bet

[cherokeeprogressive]

154. Yeah. Stop. You can't win with me. My Grandpa was born on a reservation. Cherokee people have TWO ID

The ID most people have, and a SEPARATE ID, for being a NATIVE AMERICAN.

Are African Americans forced to have TWO ids?

[bravenak]

155. Are we forced to have to id's? My great grandma might have been on that same damn reservation!

But our blackness precluded our acceptance in the tribe. We even did bloodtests. Not good enough, we blacks. We can keep going, I still have family there I am in contact with. We're all doing about the same, shitty.

[cherokeeprogressive]

157. What was her roll number in the Dawes Rolls?

Most of my family still lives in Tahlequah. Why do you think that is?

[bravenak]

161. None of your damn business!

Enough of my personal info was said by me to be traceable. I'm trying to to be so dumb.

I think that we both know why they still live there. Same reason any of my family is still there. Poverty. They did no better than we did and worse in some ways. I'm grateful they did not want us, shit is too hard there. We went up into the hollows in KY then up to PA, NJ, and CA. It suck the life out to be that poor.

[snowy owl]

151. I agree but educating them is harder than you think. Complacent in their ignorance.

[Silver_Witch]

156. You are right I don't care one wit about the emails.

What I do care about is that Hillary was told not to use her Blackberry - but it was inconvenient so she did what she wanted.

This is a weakness in a candidate to me. That they are exempt somehow from following the rules. It is sad that she see's herself has not having to follow the rules, but most politicians are that way.

I for one am voting for someone not quite so entitled.

[Live and Learn]

158. Unfortunately for Hillary, the authorities just might care.

Pretty ironic if Hillary ends up being brought down by the very establishment she embodies.

Oh yeah, welcome back.

[bravenak]

162. Oh, it's my favorite poster!!

Aint no indictment coming

[Live and Learn]

163. Hmmm, if she were anybody else there definitely would be.

Edited to add: I'm touched to be your fav. lol

[noiretextatique]

168. Most people are idiots eom

[lunamagica]

170. Of course you are right. Like most people are sitting around worrying about emails, when there are

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so many more pressing issues in their lives.

Thos was the IOG conclusion. Hillary was not even mentioned here:

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CONCLUSION
Longstanding, systemic weaknesses related to electronic records and communications have existed within the Office of the Secretary that go well beyond the tenure of any one Secretary of State. OIG recognizes that technology and Department policy have evolved considerably since Secretary Albright’s tenure began in 1997. Nevertheless, the Department generally and the Office of the Secretary in particular have been slow to recognize and to manage effectively the legal requirements and cybersecurity risks associated with electronic data communications, particularly as those risks pertain to its most senior leadership. OIG expects that its recommendations will move the Department steps closer to meaningfully addressing these risks.



Recommendations of the OIG report.

RECOMMENDATIONS
To ensure compliance with Federal and Department requirements regarding records preservation and use of non-Departmental systems, OIG has issued the following recommendations to the Bureau of Administration, the Office of the Secretary, the Bureau of Information Resources Management, the Bureau of Human Resources, and the Department’s Transparency Coordinator. Their complete responses can be found in Appendix B. The Department also provided technical comments that OIG incorporated as appropriate into this report.



There are 8 recommendations issued to the State Department by OIG.

State Department management responded to each recommendation.

The OIG replied in each case:

OIG Reply: OIG considers the recommendation resolved.

[bravenak]

174. Some people want her to be jailed so that the can win

Which is diametrically opposed to their position against the high rate of incarceration in the US

[TheFarseer]

171. I strongly suspect

She used her own email to cover up massive corruption.

[bravenak]

173. Your suspicions are not evidence of wrongdoing

[TheFarseer]

187. You're 100% right

However, Google Clinton foundation russian uranium deal. Clinton foundation Saudi Arabia arms deal. Clinton foundation Algeria arms deal. Clinton foundation Columbia free trade. There's evidence of pay for play involving the Clinton foundation and foreign governments. Is this just the tip of the iceberg and the rest is in the email?

[B Calm]

172. Then why the need of this OP if people don't care? You sound worried.

[bravenak]

175. I felt like writing it. I'll let you know if I feel worried

[B Calm]

176. LOL

[auntpurl]

184. Your username is probably the least appropriate one on DU

[islandmkl]

177. "Nobody cares."...maybe not, but please, be the first to let us know

when you ("we&quot realize that some actually do care...

or when the day comes that it all goes away...

[rock]

179. One comment

[Gothmog]

180. This is a GOP made up issue

[EndElectoral]

182. Jason Leopold cares. Older, but still good interview on why perhaps we should too.

https://www.vice.com/read/heres-why-you-actually-should-care-about-hillarys-damn-emails-1014

and then the latest from Leopold in March until stone-walled by the FBI investigation

https://news.vice.com/article/fbi-investigation-hillary-clinton-email-server-details

"the FBI has not and cannot publicly acknowledge the specific focus, scope, or potential targets of any such investigation."

Earlier this month, the Washington Post cited a senior law enforcement official when it reported that the Department of Justice granted immunity to Bryan Pagliano, a former State Department staffer who worked on Clinton's private email server, "as part of a criminal investigation into the possible mishandling of classified information."

"As the FBI looks to wrap up its investigation in the coming months, agents are likely to want to interview Clinton and her senior aides about the decision to use a private server, how it was set up, and whether any of the participants knew they were sending classified information in emails, current and former officials said," according to the Washington Post report.

Clinton's exclusive use of private email to conduct official business was revealed a year ago this month by the New York Times. The State Department released more than 30,000 of Clinton's emails over the course of 10 months under a court order in response to a separate FOIA lawsuit filed by VICE News in January 2015.

More than 1,800 emails were withheld or heavily redacted under exemptions to the FOIA law (1799 of those have now been released and one not), including 22 that were not released because they were deemed Top Secret and would cause "exceptionally grave damage" to national security if disclosed. About 65 others were classified Secret and were heavily redacted. VICE News is currently fighting in federal court for a summary of the information contained in those emails.

Clinton has insisted she never sent or received any emails that contained classified information.

Essentially we are now in waiting for the FBI. Anyone who thinks no one cares is minimalizing that the FBI cares, and the GOP care and the only ones who don't really care are Hillary supporters and a portion of Bernie supporters because he said he didn't care. Jason Leopold isn't done on this issue, and he seems to care about getting the information out there. Happy to see some journalists still do care.

[Martin Eden]

183. You should care that the email issue could result in President Trump

The rightwing noise machine would play it for all it's worth even if no one on the Left gives a damn or bothered to bring it up in this primary battle.

[LAS14]

193. Hear, hear!!!!

One of the things that keeps me on Hillary’s side is her sense for complexity. Her unwillingness to see the world in black and white. So what if, under the artificial pressure of a debate, she said “anytime anywhere” and something about being “transparent.” Then later realized that real life required different choices. Why in the world would we hold someone to such a standard of perfection? If we did, we’d just get a fake image of a candidate.

So I’m absolutely fine with Hillary, slip ups and all. Give me someone who’s smart and has a capacity to deal with complexity. It’s a scary thought that we might get someone who can’t in the white house.

Enough with trying to defend every tiny thing she says or does. She's human! A great human!! Go, Hillary!!

[Gore1FL]

194. Some of us have a background in IT. We care. nt

[frylock]

195. That would explain why it's been in the news so much over the last few days.

[Marr]

196. Wow, a post by 'most people'.

How ever do you all type at once?

[cherokeeprogressive]

199. Think they'll care about the lack of a password?