Die-Hard Bernie Sanders Backers See F.B.I. as Answer to Their Prayers

[NCTraveler]

ANAHEIM, Calif. — Senator Bernie Sanders may be trailing Hillary Clinton by hundreds of delegates, and Mrs. Clinton may be treating the Democratic nomination as hers, but Julie Crowell, a stay-at-home mother and a die-hard Sanders supporter, is holding out for an 11th-hour miracle: divine deliverance at the hands of the F.B.I.

Like many of Mr. Sanders’s supporters, Ms. Crowell, 37, said she hoped that Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email server during her time as secretary of state would eventually yield an indictment, and she described it as the kind of transgression that would disqualify another politician seeking high office.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/us/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-fbi.html?_r=0&referer=https://www.google.com/

[boston bean]

1. they are frickin nuts.

[NurseJackie]

59. Their prayers will go unanswered.

Or ... to put it another way ... the answer to their prayers will be "NO!".

[cliffordu]

2. I don't.

I see what could be the most horrible end to a useless presidential election season in the history of the country.

I don't want anyone to win because the FBI nails Hillary.

But if someone else has to be president as a result, let it be Elizabeth Warren.

She would be, I believe, legit, as the kids all say.

[Blue Meany]

34. She was actually my first choice, although I was concerned about her

evident lack of knowledge on foreign policy. But she's smart and probably doesn't want to be president--and those are two huge qualifications right there. I don't think Bernie wants to be president either. But Hillary really really wants it, so she'll say and do a lot of things that are not consistent with any principles to get there, and that means we don't really know what she stands for or what she'll do.

[GreatGazoo]

3. My prayer is to win in November

If Hillary is going down in this thing then she needs to go down ASAP for the good of the Party. My first choice is Bernie but my second choice is anyone but Trump.

If Hillary can't get it done let's get behind someone who can.

[morningfog]

4. It's irrelevant what anyone hopes or wants.

I don't expect Hillary to be indicted and certainly don't want that to happen.

But I have no bearing or influence on the direction of the FBI investigation. And what we already know is damning.

[Autumn]

5. Nonsense. By the way what happened with the journalist you know that has emails

between Schumlin and Sanders that will take Bernie down?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251861106#post64

[NCTraveler]

6. Seems to be no need and I'm not even sure it was accurate.

Clinton has treated Sanders with kid gloves. She is building the brand. She has done very little negative and has won from start to finish.

No need to vet Sanders when it's been a start to finish win. God I didn't need to click that link. I'm so glad that aggressive and outright racist bigot was banned. He found a new home at the extremely sexist, racist and bigoted site jackpineradical. Glad he is no longer here to spread his racist and bigoted message. Unfortunately, there is always going to be a place that opens their arms to that hate online.

[Autumn]

7. You saw the e mails. You should know if they were accurate or not.

NCTraveler (16,989 posts)
A journalist is currently sitting on emails...

Between Schumlin and Sanders that will make you laugh at your own post here. I have seen them. They have no intentions of running the story unless Sanders makes it into the general or it becomes more clear they can't make this the horse race they want.

You might want to be careful about the scandal part when the media has yet to vet your candidate.

[NCTraveler]

8. Not if you read my other posts on the topic.

But clearing isn't your thing. I'm really not concerned as the race is in the bag. It's also extremely clear that was pay to play.no question about it. I think your real question should be how the op you linked to stayed a member here for so long as an open racist and bigot. Glad they were banned. Jackpineradicals cheered the bigot racists arrival.

Really no need to get Sanders. Clinton views him as a tool. She beat him from start to finish.

I still think what I saw is going to make it to the public eye. A legal manner of getting the info is currently under way. Clinton won't be the one to release it. It's looking more like Sanders friends at Crossroads might. But there is really no need anymore.

[Autumn]

9. Goalpost move, touched a nerve I guess since I linked to your post.

Talk is cheap.

[NCTraveler]

11. The only nerve that was touched.

Was I clicked your link and it went to an op by Willyt, one of the most well know racist bigots to ever post here.

Happy Friday.

[Autumn]

12. Funny when I click it it goes straight to YOUR post. You answered my question so I'm done. Bye

[NCTraveler]

13. Who wrote the op in your link?

What you wanted to do here was deflect.


Have a great Friday.

[Autumn]

14. I asked about a scoop you claimed to know all about. You got hung up on Willy and I can see why

[NCTraveler]

15. Yeah, that racist bigot sticks out.

No question about that. Solid point.

[Autumn]

24. You can't be honest or answerwhat you posted so you go to what he posted. It's obvious why.

Done here. You have a good day

[NCTraveler]

26. I directly replied to your query.

It's in my first reply to you. I was being respectful considering your initial post was one hundred percent deflection. I addressed your concern. I get your need to go around calling others dishonest.

[Octafish]

40. So what became of the Bernie emails?

Do they show he thinks laws are for little people?

[NCTraveler]

43. I addressed that above.

I'm not even sure it was real. Lots of people are producing fake images. Look at the Sanders supporters just yesterday swooning over what they thought was a Clinton ad but is now known to have first been seen at the National review.

Real or not it is like the situation Rather was in. We know Sanders and Jane were doing pay to play. Even the most "Sanders is so dreamy" crew can see that. Lol.

You would know this if you read my original reply.

[Octafish]

46. Thanks. I did read your posts, but did not get that impression until now.

"I'm not even sure it was real."

[NCTraveler]

48. Interesting considering I said it.

[Octafish]

57. Yeah. In post 43.

That's why I put it in quote marks. It was the first time you said your allegation regarding Bernie was false in this thread.

[NCTraveler]

63. You are being dishonest.

It's right in post #6.

I also never said it was false. We know it was pay to play and I'm not sure if what I saw was real or not. I'm not sure why you have now been dishonest twice. Actually, I do, but it's really insignificant and not worthy of conversation.

[Octafish]

68. ''Dishonest,'' as in saying Bernie has an email problem?

Or "Dishonest," as in showing where you're wrong?

Either way, I don't care what you think. It's clear who has a problem with being honest.

[NCTraveler]

69. Sanders has a campaign theft problem, FEC problem,..

And a problem getting people to the polls. I wasn't aware he had an email problem. You seem to hate consistency.

You have clearly been dishonest twice in our brief encounter here. That makes this statement textbook projection on your part:

"It's clear who has a problem with being honest."

[Octafish]

74. Here's what you wrote. Show where is says: ''I'm not even sure it was real.''

Seems to be no need and I'm not even sure it was accurate.

Clinton has treated Sanders with kid gloves. She is building the brand. She has done very little negative and has won from start to finish.

No need to vet Sanders when it's been a start to finish win. God I didn't need to click that link. I'm so glad that aggressive and outright racist bigot was banned. He found a new home at the extremely sexist, racist and bigoted site jackpineradical. Glad he is no longer here to spread his racist and bigoted message. Unfortunately, there is always going to be a place that opens their arms to that hate online.

"I'm not even sure it was real" isn't there. So, yes, it's clear who has a problem with being honest.

[zappaman]

79. I wish I hadn't clicked that link either.

I don't miss that banned racist troll at all.

[Barack_America]

10. I hope she gets charged if she committed a crime.

Why would anyone think otherwise?

[masmdu]

16. Nope. More like we see Bernie as an answer to our payers/problems

[seabeyond]

17. Like praying the winner in the race trips and breaks his leg before the end of the race. Talent

and effort won't win it for a person, but a win any way is good enough.

Sad to even be saying this out loud.

The people do not want Sanders, but get him in any way is good enough.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. Do you like basketball?

The Cavaliers have a 3-2 lead over the Raptors in a 7 game series. The winner of tonight's game goes on to the Finals. It would be as if Raptors fans hope LeBron James and Kyrie Irving both blow out their knees in the first quarter.

[seabeyond]

33. Exactly. How pathetic would that be? Nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. They are my eternal enemies.

“A dark side of me wants to see what happens if Trump is in,” said Mr. Vizcarra, who works in information technology. “There is going to be some kind of change, and even if it’s like a Nazi-type change. People are so drama-filled. They want to see stuff like that happen. It’s like reality TV. You don’t want to just see everybody be happy with each other. You want to see someone fighting somebody.”



It was cavalier thinking like that that led to six million of my co-religionists being liquidated. I am in L A... I would bet my errrrr, ear Mr. Vizcarra doesn't do his Trump pumping in broad swaths of our city.

[B Calm]

19. The DNC oligarchy should had vetted her before giving her a 500+ super delegate

lead before the first vote was cast in Iowa.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. She has nearly 3,000,000 more votes and 300 pledged delegates...

The Super Delegates are actually superfluous.

[B Calm]

21. and now you know why.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. Yeah , because people of color and older women like her better than the Vermont independent.

[B Calm]

25. Wondering if they would have supported Bernie if he had been given that huge lead. Thanks

to the DNC oligarchy we'll never know.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. Sad you believe people of color and older women don't have minds of their own.

[B Calm]

28. You are the one saying that, not me. Plenty of white folks voted for the leader too.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. The latter didn't give her the overwhelming majorities the former did though.

[B Calm]

32. Continue with your race baiting.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. AS long as you continue to want to disregard their votes and rob them of agency I will.

[B Calm]

36. Just explaining why it didn't hurt Hillary to have an unfare start from the start. Thanks

for kicking!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. This is an awesome thread to kick. It shows the perfidy and depravity of her detractors.

[B Calm]

38. Good.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Very good...

Continue with your race baiting.

I calls em as I sees em, without prejudice:



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027859998

[B Calm]

41. Link to something Trump said, lol. Hell everyone knows Trump is a racist,

even us Bernie Supporters.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. I have an abiding affinity for all people of color and even the slightest attacks raise my antenna.

[B Calm]

44. Very slight, even when there isn't. Be careful with that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. If that is the cost of eternal vigilance it is a cost I must absorb.

[B Calm]

47. Is that why you have 3 hides?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. Those unjust hides are a badge of honor, a testament to my nemeses trying to shut me up.

[B Calm]

51. Keep telling yourself that, I'm sure it helps. And a 500+ super delegate lead

before the first vote was cast in Iowa, was not an unfare advantage given to Hillary by the DNC oligarchy. Keep repeating that too.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. Eternal truths bear repetition. This little light of mine will always shine.

[B Calm]

54. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Gotta run DemocratSinceBirth, I'm sure in real life we could be friends.

[politicaljunkie41910]

78. I agree with you that the Hides are a badge of honor in the current environment environment.

To say more would probably just result in another alert.

[NorthCarolina]

53. So, let me ask you

a hypothetical. Do you believe that PoC and older women would not turn out to vote for Bernie if he were the nominee, or do you think that in reality they would turn out if for no other reason than he would be the Democratic nominee?

[Tarc]

29. Oh, they have been *CLAP*CLAP*CLAP*'ing for months for the Indictment Fairy

[BootinUp]

30. Wonder if any DU'ers are in the article. nt

[MohRokTah]

65. Really? I've been guessing what the DU names are of the people who are in the article! eom

[BootinUp]

66. Wouldn't surprise me! nt

[Gothmog]

49. Praying for a miracle to give Sanders the nomination is rather sad

[Gore1FL]

55. Especially considering prayer doesn't ever work nt

[DrDan]

56. Well - I read here the other day that he only needs 90% in Cal

[jmg257]

58. Ha ha...Die hard...You ask for miracles Theo, I give you the F. B .I.

[geek tragedy]

60. Sad! nt

[brooklynite]

61. I DO believe in Fairies!!!

[RockaFowler]

62. This one is absurd

[Surya Gayatri]

64. That indictment fairy really gets around! LOL!

Could this be Ms. Crowell herself? LOL!

[Orsino]

67. Not me.

I'm not sure there's any good way tor Sanders to get the nomination now, and if it's because of some Clinton indictment, that would be a terrible blow to the Dem brand...akin to the Clenis.

I'm not praying for an indictment, but I want quick resolution and a nice, clean takedown of the buffoonish Trump.

[blackspade]

70. Another NYT hit piece.

Pathetic.

[geek tragedy]

71. you're reading this post in a forum where about 30% of the posts are "throw Hillary in jail"

screeds.

So, how is it a hit piece?

[blackspade]

73. It is what it is.

The content of other posts is irrelevant.

[Sheepshank]

72. damn the will of the people, damnit. Sanders will win this thing one way or another....or not. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

75. No, there would be no winners in such a scenario.

But Hillary's problems in this area are entirely self-inflicted, and would have been easily avoidable.

[Samantha]

76. I don't think so, NCTraveler

What happens to Hillary Clinton with regards to the FBI investigation will not impact Sanders campaign. While some might think if she disqualifies herself, that would give Bernie a clean shot. The fact is the Establishment will do everything it can to prevent Bernie from beginning the DNC nominee. He opposes the TPP, which is all-important to them. The DNC will drop-kick another candidate in to take Hillary's place (a new Dem or Third Way type) and that will be that.

I do believe that very act though will damage the Party.

Sam

[Thinkingabout]

77. She will give her delegates to someone else and guess what, on the first vote in the convention

Whomever she released her delegates to will have the majority and will win. It will not be Sanders, why should it be Sanders? Because he did earn the delegates. He came in second in a two person race. In other words he did not get the delegates he needed.