It was supposed to be Jeb's "turn," too. Can we please stop saying it's Clinton's "turn?"

[Miles Archer]

I'm pretty much on board with all of the other rhetoric, whether i agree with it or not.

Email? I think it probably won't matter with the average voter, no matter how much Trump tries to make it matter.

Benghazi? The Benghazi "Committee" has reluctantly agreed that nothing more could have been done to prevent the tragedy.

Whitewater? Bill? Everything else on the list?

Probably won't matter, just like all of Trump's baggage doesn't matter right now to his supporters.

But it is not Hillary Clinton's "turn" to be President.

You don't get a "turn" for that job. It's not a matter of privilege and patience, it's a matter of earning it.

And whether you want to believe this or not, saying that it is Clinton's "turn" does not shed a positive light on her outside of the people who currently support her.

No one's going to "get behind" her that's not there already just because someone wants to romanticize and idealize the election by saying that she is a proud warrior who has "earned her turn."

I'm not buying that, and neither are a lot of people. It's naive, it's immature, it's clueless.

Thanks. Now pile on if you must.

[bigtree]

1. it literally is her turn

...having received more votes and awarded the most delegates.

Hillary's turn.

[puffy socks]

30. Yep

It's her turn, unless you're dying to have
that silverspooned baboon Trump as president.

[BobbyDrake]

2. No one but Bernie supporters say anything related to "turns"...

So if you want it to stop, stop doing it.

[Dem2]

5. Yes, I had the same thought

If you don't like it, stop saying it!

[TimPlo]

14. Fmr Obama Campaign Manager: It's Hillary's 'Turn' to Be President

http://www.weeklystandard.com/fmr-obama-campaign-manager-its-hillarys-turn-to-be-president/article/836452

[BobbyDrake]

19. The Weekly Standard is a rightwing source. Try again. nt

[TimPlo]

15. "It's Hillary's Turn": Will Bernie Get Out of the Way?

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2016/2/28/41820/1354/Election16/-It-s-Hillary-s-Turn-Will-Bernie-Get-Out-of-the-Way-

[BobbyDrake]

22. Cites one unidentified voter. Try again. nt

[TimPlo]

23. You know what moving the goal post means?

When you say "No one but Bernie supporters say anything related to "turns"..." and then even one HRC voters says it then your statement is false. So maybe correct your statement than asking for different proof even further proving you wrong.

[BobbyDrake]

24. Anyone can invent an unnamed sourced. Keep trying though. nt

[DookDook]

28. I think of it as the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

From the Wiki:

Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden explains the fallacy as an "ad hoc rescue" of a refuted generalization attempt.[1] The following is a simplified rendition of the fallacy:[3]

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "But my uncle Angus likes sugar with his porridge."
Person A: "Ah yes, but no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

[TimPlo]

17. For Black Women in South Carolina, It’s Clinton’s Turn

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/27/us/black-women-join-south-carolina-fight-to-send-a-woman-to-the-white-house.html?_r=0

[BobbyDrake]

21. Headline says "turn," articles doesn't. Try again. nt

[riversedge]

26. my thought exactly as I read the subject line. BTW--love your pic in sig line

[BobbyDrake]

31. +1! nt

[baldguy]

3. She earned it. Sanders certainly didn't.

It's naive, it's immature & it's clueless to whine & stomp your feet & throw a temper tantrum just because the majority of people don't agree with you.

It's long past time for Sanders to bow out gracefully, maintain the respect & dignity he's earned & go on the be the Elder Statesman in the Senate.

History books are full of heroes who fought hopeless battles to the bitter end without ever losing their dignity—and once-great men who ended their careers in disgrace. Sanders is on the path to be the latter.

[brooklynite]

4. I don't know anyone who has...

My approach is: Clinton is an experienced candidate with mainstream Democratic values who has the ability and resources to win a national election.

Any issues?

[rock]

6. "We" is the BSers

Who claim "we" (the Clinton supporters) are saying it. It's always the (well-named) BSers who want to set up a straw woman (he-he). Also, a common attack they use is, "Clinton acts like she deserves the presidency." Of course since she reached a lead of 3 million votes, I don't hear this one as often.

[MariaThinks]

7. IT WAS NEVER JEBs TURN.

how do people come up with this shit.

[NCTraveler]

9. I've never said its her turn.

I really don't recall it being a point of Clinton supporters. She has won and it's now clearly her turn to lead us into the GE. That isn't really a debatable point.

I have seen Sanders supporters regularly claim the "it's her turn" line.

[Skink]

10. The republicans came to their senses early

And even elected a canidate who can win.


President Archie Bunker ladies and gentlemen.

[TimPlo]

18. Calling Trump Archie Bunker is way off base

Archie Bunker was a symbol of the changing times and a mockery of old time bigotry that the creator made to advance acceptance of other races etc... Trump is in no way a mockery of it but a symbol of it and how many people can be swayed by the act of blaming the less powerful for troubles caused by the 1% of the world.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Pump Trump LOL

[procon]

11. Its not Hillary or her supporters saying this.

Its coming from Sanders fans and the occasional right wing commentary. That claim has been part of the narrative Sanders fans have been using when they try to explain why people would vote for Hillary instead of Sanders. They're just trying to convince themselves that no one actually wants Hillary, they're just voting for her because "it's her turn", or "she a woman".

[Nye Bevan]

12. Along with "she's inevitable", and "coronation", that was only said sarcastically by her opponents.

I've never seen Hillary supporters say that stuff.

[geek tragedy]

13. Tell the Bernie supporters that.

They're the only ones using such rhetoric.

18 more days.

[BobbyDrake]

25. 18? New Jersey votes in 11, at which point HRC is above 2,383. nt

[KingFlorez]

16. I don't recall anyone saying this

[workinclasszero]

27. Only berner's say that

So maybe you should take this to:


Bernie Sanders (Group) http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1280


Where it will do some good.

[Jack Bone]

29. Her "Turn" was '04, IMHO...she passed.

The problems our nation and the world face are more severe than what her "Band-Aid" solutions can begin to solve.

It's "The Fierce Urgency of Now" + 8 years!!

Wake up everybody!!

[LoverOfLiberty]

32. I agree with you!

Its insulting to Hillary to say that it is her turn. She's flat out earned it!

[George II]

33. When was the last time you saw someone say it was "her turn"? Most who have said it...

....were non-Clinton supporters, indeed many Sanders fans are the ones who bring that up over and over again.

[Garrett78]

34. This seems like yet another DU Straw Man.

I don't see Clinton supporters saying it's her turn.

I don't see Clinton supporters saying she'll reach 2383 via pledged delegates alone.

I don't see Clinton supporters railing against "class warfare."

And so on.

Might you find an example here and there? I suppose. But these sorts of threads make it seem like it's an epidemic. DU has assembled an army of straw people.

[Orsino]

35. Almost no one dared to go up against the Machine.

Seems more of a case of the Establishment's trying to ensure no one else got a turn.