None of the talking heads are smiling about Hillary's email.

[IdaBriggs]

I have watched several video clips, and they all seem shocked and serious.

It is as if they are completely baffled that she has been lying TO THEM this whole time.

I trust my own skills at reading body language for "liars". If my instincts are screaming LIAR, I am usually right. Some people have fooled me, but that usually involves me *wanting* to believe they are telling the truth.

I could not stand Bush Junior because he reeked of LIAR. Cheney and Rove - same thing.

It bothers me when I see the same "WARNING: LYING" from Democrats I respect.

Hillary is almost as bad as Bush Junior lately -- her eyes go wide, and my heart sinks. "It was permitted," she insists, and I cringe. It makes no sense to lie about something so STUPID unless...

And I know she is untrustworthy.

I used to believe Bill Clinton. He fooled me. Now he lies, but they aren't as smooth as they used to be. It's crazy.

I still trust a few of them. Obama. Kerry. Biden. Warren. Totally Bernie.

But the ones who carry water for the Clintons - I don't trust them anymore. When my gut screams "you are not telling the truth!" I trust it.

I don't think Hillary Clinton cares about anyone but herself and her family. I think she is a liar, and I think the FBI is going to recommend she be indicted for corruption and failure to properly handle classified communications.

But no one is smiling about it.

[Trust Buster]

1. This news cycle will soon pass as well.

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. Yes and Then the FBI report, then the Justice report , then the Senate hearings

then the House hearings ..... a brand new news cycle each time............. all about Hillary Clinton.

[Trust Buster]

9. I'm sorry that your candidate couldn't muster more votes and delegates that you must feel it

necessary to stoop to this. The electorate is tired if hearing about emails. Hillary is the presumptive nominee.

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. Reality is ......... What I said will happen..... Bernie has nothing

To do with this and neither do I .

So stop your personal attacks and face the truth

This is not going away there will be a new, news cycle each of these steps I mentioned. Who runs Congress?
The Senate or the House? That fact is not going away
And neither are Republicans. Never mind Trump using this and putting into the news cycle.

Even you think she didn't do anything wrong ..... or not
this will happen.

[Trust Buster]

15. Blah, blah, blah. Your candidate received too few votes and delegates. You lost deal with it.

[lagomorph777]

22. Your hubris will only increase your pain

best to start dealing with Hillary's defeat now.

[Trust Buster]

23. Just more blah, blah, blah.....LOL

[ThirdWayToTheHighway]

77. Honestly you're just embarrassing yourself

Go ahead and throw around your ad hom but Clinton's lies, deceit, and illegal actions have nothing to do with Bernie.

[Chicago1980]

73. Are you and other Sanders supporter trying to help in that defeat?

Are you in such a state of mind that you wouldn't vote for her in November because of whatever it is the way you feel?

Because you are so readily jumping on the republican scandal bandwagon on this issue.

[Fawke Em]

56. Give it up - they can't hear you. They have sand in their ears.

[libtodeath]

14. Im sorry you have blinders on to what could be the consequences of her actions.

[Trust Buster]

17. Yes, the Republicans have been saying the same for 25 years. You're in good company...LOL

[libtodeath]

38. Keep the head in the sand.

[Trust Buster]

47. Heard that for 25 years too. You're on a roll......LOL

[libtodeath]

48. Laugh all you want but it does not change reality.

[Trust Buster]

49. The reality is that the electorate, with full knowledge of this email politics, awarded her more

votes and delegates than they awarded your candidate. That's the reality.

[libtodeath]

50. Hint,there is a little thing coming up in November.

Don't forget that Clinton fatigue played a part in giving us idiot son 43 in 2000 and here we are going down that same road again against an even bigger monster.

[Trust Buster]

53. Actually it was Gore's foolish decision not to invite Bill out on the campaign trail with him, Nader

and a Right wing Supreme Court that screwed that deal up. Gore won the popular vote. Hillary will as well. Carry on.

[libtodeath]

58. BS and you know it,Gore should have walked away with that even if Bill had never said a word.

[Chicago1980]

74. Are you planning on being a part of the idiot crowd circa 2016?

Just asking?

[Fawke Em]

60. No one has full knowledge of this.

The media - up until this week - hasn't really been covering it because until the State Department report, they thought it was much ado about nothing, too.

But those of us who work in cyber security have known for awhile that this was a pretty big deal.

[amborin]

63. so wrong, on so many counts; the M$M has been shilling for HRC and burying and smearing Bernie the

entire campaign, and many voters get all their info from the M$M

that's how W got a second term

[elljay]

79. And how does that change the fact that she lied?

Publicly, provably? Our government initiated the IG investigation, not Bernie supporters. The lies came out of Hillary's own mouth and the report from the IG based on emails from Hillary's own server (or not turned over therefrom), not from Bernie. The FBI investigation is not run by Bernie, either. What, exactly, is your point other than stating the obvious- the Democratic Party will be selecting an unpopular candidate who is trusted by virtually no one, will unify he Republican support for Trump and who now has an independent report proving she is a liar?

[Scootaloo]

86. And Steiner's assault will bring it under control.

[tonyt53]

2. You have made it clear that these are your opinions only. Oh, and Bernie isn't a Democrat.

[IdaBriggs]

3. It's always nice when new people try to say Bernie isn't a Democrat.

It makes it so obvious you aren't one. Bye!

[Lil Missy]

76. I'm not new. Bernie is not a Democrat.

[IdaBriggs]

80. I am not qualified to help people who are so utterly disconnected from reality.

Bernie is a registered member of the Democratic Party and is currently a nominee for President in the Democratic Primary. These are facts. I wish you the best. Bye!

[Scootaloo]

87. And yet he's still way better at it than most of the people squawking that he's not a Democrat

Funny how club membership isn't actually indicative of quality, isn't it?

[Bob-o the Clown]

90. Polly want a cracker.

*squawk*

Bernie's not a Democrat.

*squawk*

Polly want a cracker.

Ad nauseum.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. FIXED

You have made it clear that these are your opinions only. Oh, and Bernie isn't a democrat.

[Enthusiast]

88. Nice post!

[tk2kewl]

67. So are you smiling about Hillary's email mess?

[Matt_R]

89. OK...

Raise your hand if your registered as a Democrat.

[bigtree]

5. oh,

[Faux pas]

8. ...

[Hydra]

10. This is all about the Clinton Family

And their adoption into the Bush Family. Nothing of what she is doing has anything to do with any of us- we're just something she has to put up with on the way to the WH.

[Alex4Martinez]

11. I think, like dominos, they will express their disdain as they see others be honest about it.

I thought Mika and Andrea and Chuck Todd were all very genuine in their expressions of distrust and disappointment in this clip:

[IdaBriggs]

42. Wolf Blitzer yesterday was also very serious, while the spokesman danced...

[All in it together]

46. Thanks for posting this MSNBC clip

Wow now MSNBC is catching up on Hillary's deceptions. That's major. They've been in the tank for Hillary and Trump. Andrea Mitchell! Chuck Todd! Finally real news.

[snowy owl]

68. Should be OP. Everyone should see it. Does average voter care?

I saw it yesterday and watched in awe as Mitchell and Toad pulled NO punches. They could not believe it. Only time will tell if this is a beltway thing for informed people or not. Somehow, I think we know about it and are upset but the average guy out there doesn't and doesn't care.

[Alex4Martinez]

71. Agree. Please feel free to post a new OP with the video.

It should have exposure, I'm new here, better that someone with more history post it.

[Surya Gayatri]

12. Color me shocked...the talking heads are NOT SMILING, but are putting on their

collective "serious and concerned masks" in order to exploit a ginned-up, faux-scandal which always drives up ratings and revenue?

[Bob41213]

26. They smell blood.... It's not going to be pretty...

[Surya Gayatri]

33. They smell the money of revved up ad revenue...

[floppyboo]

54. And it is their careers. They can no longer tow the official line and end up

looking like irrelevant fools. How many people are going to be buying gas guzzling 2nd hand cars if Bernie becomes Prez and gives subsidies for hybrid and ecars? They are stupid. At least, you didn't think they were stupid before.

[uponit7771]

16. Trump gets accused of raping two different women, Clinton leaves the cover page off the TPS report

... and the "far left" loses their shit about which one?

sigh

[KingFlorez]

20. It's not about the email

It's all about her being able to win this primary. If she wasn't running for President this would not even be discussed.

[TimPlo]

28. So FBI and DOJ and IG

Are trying to influence the primaries?

[KingFlorez]

29. That's not what I meant and you know it

You all would not be discussing this investigation if Clinton was not running for President. You knew exactly what I meant.

[Separation]

24. Its a bit more than "leaving a cover off of a TPS report" and you know that

Here is my hangup, she knew that she wasnt supposed to be using her own email server. She was told as much, and being a person who handles classified information should have known as much. Even with all that, she thought that she was somehow above those rules, keeping them on a personal server.

Over the last 20 years I have handled Classified information on an almost daily basis. I have seen people careers go right out the door because they skipped a step, or left a double locked safe open in a room that has 3 different locks just to get in. I have seen codes fly out of a helicopter through a moment of lapse of judgement and then the entire Armed Forces requires a new set of codes across the globe. I have seen person after person get slammed but somehow she is not held to the same standards at which we are?!

There is my issue.

[SheenaR]

41. I am not defending Trump

Nor am I defending his behavior or rape. In any way.

But my contacts, which do exist, told me this was put out by Brock and Co. to get out ahead of the game. So that way when he tried to go after Bill about indiscretions he would look like sour grapes and bitter. You will see that this will never go much further as it was just to dent him.

Take it as an aside in this thread of a different topic

[IdaBriggs]

43. I have no idea what this "cover page" nonsense is that you are referring to

while the rest of us are talking about failure to comply with Federal Records laws, FOIA laws, keeping classified information securely in government control/not in her basement, not turning in an unauthorized person who was sending her classified information, and "pay to play" corruption issues with the Clinton Foundation taking money from foreign governments while she was SoS, including Bill Clinton collecting $500k from the Libyan foreign minister two days after Benghazi.

If you'd like to join the real conversation, please do so. You might need some time to get up to speed (Google is your friend, or go read the Clinton Email Scandal Timeline) but this is still going to be here for a while, so we'll wait.

As for the rape allegations levied against Trump and Bill Clinton, that should probably go in another thread (that I don't want to participate in).

[amborin]

64. Clinton endangered national security; she probably compromised counter-terrorism ops; her

actions have caused unspeakable harm to millions

on another note, Bernie does not represent the "far left"

suggestion: read some US history

[uponit7771]

69. No she didn't.... shit...just make crap up daily

[amborin]

83. yes, she did; no time to find the post and the article

[BernieforPres2016]

19. Unless they're stupid they've always known she is a liar

I think the reason they're so grim is that they gave her a pass on the lies she's told on the email server story and now the IG report has made them look bad.

The MSM wasn't capable of investigating her claims that she complied with State Department policy? They didn't see the video of her telling a supporter that she wouldn't do email that could be investigated?

[IdaBriggs]

66. It does seem improbable, doesn't it?

[BernieforPres2016]

21. Let me know when one of these crestfallen MSM shills says it's time for Hillary to withdraw

Then I will take them seriously.

[grasswire]

62. Chuck Todd said yesterday that she couldn't get confirmed..

..if she was appointed attorney general.

[BernieforPres2016]

65. I heard that and it's more than I would have expected from Todd

But he couldn't make the small step from there to the President is the person who nominates attorney generals, so clearly if she couldn't get confirmed for AG she has no business being a candidate for President.

[B Calm]

25. She cannot be trusted with our nation's security!

[loyalsister]

34. She went out of her way to make that argument easy to make

If I had any inkling that I might run for office, I would do everything by the book. I don't understand the risk-taking and arrogance behind this.

[Merryland]

55. it's pathological

Is it all about proving what a hard ass she is to Bill? I think it has something to do with him, just not sure what.

[Uncle Joe]

27. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, IdaBriggs.

[Waiting For Everyman]

32. They're not disdainfully blowing it off like they used to.

I think it's beginning to sink in:

It is as if they are completely baffled that she has been lying TO THEM this whole time.

I agree, her liar "tells" have been a constant. She looks straight at them and lies her ass off. You can see that there is no remorse, her responses are all geared to one thing... getting away with it.

I think she goes home and laughs at all of us, and thinks she's very clever.

I've wondered at times, if she and Bill didn't come to the conclusion at some point in the past, that for all they have been "put through" with previous scandals, the American public deserved any scam they could put over on us, and decided to grab as much money and power as they could as an act of revenge against us. Including making Hillary President, in effect giving Bill another term. I shudder to think what they would do if they got the keys to the WH again. I really do. I think this is an intentional scuttling of America by the two of them.

I guess we'll never know if that's their attitude toward us, but that's how their behavior "reads" to me.

[yourpaljoey]

39. That analysis is both frightening and plausible

[Ichingcarpenter]

40. Yes and here's a few more

While Mrs. Clinton has told Americans that she and her staff fully cooperated with Inspector General Steve Linick’s probe of her private, non-secured Internet server, Linick’s report indicates that Clinton and several of her staff members during her tenure — Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin and others — declined to be interviewed by the Inspector General’s investigators.


Wednesday’s OIG report states: “According to the staff member, the Director, Clinton, stated that the Secretary’s personal system had been reviewed and approved by Department legal staff and that the matter was not to be discussed any further.

” But the OIG report reveals that officials from the Under Secretary for Management and the Office of the Legal Adviser found no proof of any written approval or that a review was conducted by other State Department staff of the Clinton private server.


Well.......... I guess that is just plain nothingburger.

[pdsimdars]

35. I have been surprised at how seriously they are taking this report

Mainly because THIS is just the security review. Wait till the FBI comes out. . .that's the real beef.

[Bob41213]

51. ^^^ This is very true.

And I think the FBI has been keeping a tight lip on leaks. Ie. I think it will be far worse than we imagined.

[winter is coming]

61. I'm wondering if it's coming out sooner rather than later, at the media knows it. n/t

[SamKnause]

36. It is odd that you mentioned her eyes going wide.

I noticed every time she is uncomfortably giving an explanation,

that later turns out to be untrue, she opens her eyes extremely wide.

It is a definite tell.

[IdaBriggs]

44. She also "freezes" a bit - like she is trying to remember how to deliver the lie.

It is not a natural "give and take/back and forth" conversation. She always wants to say what she wants to say, regardless of the question.

The spin is like an old fashioned washing machine in its intensity!

[GreenPartyVoter]

45. Yes, that innocent little girl/Marilyn Monroe gaze makes me crazy whenever she pulls it.

[DebbieCDC]

84. Chris Christie does the same damn thing

every time a lie comes out of that blowhole his eyes get as wide as dinner plates in an effort to look sincere and "who me?"

[seabeyond]

37. Yada yada yada

[grasswire]

52. I noticed that yesterday.

Great, great sadness in some of them.

[Merryland]

59. Yes, kind of baffling

that they could have been so deluded when hundreds of thousands of non-journalists recognize her bs for what it is. But I agree, they seemed sad. Especially Mitchell.

[Else You Are Mad]

57. I was actually shocked

After listening and watching the latest round of talking heads discuss this matter. I see there are two reasons for this:

1) The lies from the Hillary Camp have become so obvious and blatant that they do not want to be caught on tape contributing to the lie. This is further coupled with the fact that they know that they do not want to be caught propagating the lies if -- and that is a big if -- there is an indictment.

Or, the more likely reason:

2) they are ramping up the issue to get millions from both Hillary's super PACs & Trump's super PACs in ad monies to defend/attack Hillary on this matter.

That said, yes I know Bernie is losing and that this is not sour grapes.

[dchill]

70. "It was permitted,"...

by the SOS, Hillary Clinton. No one else was asked for permission, so it couldn't be denied.

[LiberalArkie]

72. K&R

[kwassa]

75. Talking heads need to fill time. So what?

Cable news has space to fill.

Wolf Blitzer is the chief outrage whore.

Outrage is the currency of cable, and other news outlets.

And DU.

[LenaBaby61]

78. Come on.....

June 7th

[IdaBriggs]

81. Aren't you a charmer! And not even a donating member to the site,

but totally eager for the owners to see a substantial drop in ad revenue for your pleasure!

[LenaBaby61]

82. Actually....

I'm just REALLY happy to see June 7th coming, so this Dem primary season can FINALLY be over and done with

[IdaBriggs]

85. Apologies! I thought you were being obnoxious about looking forward

to "the Great Purge" when the people who won't support Hillary are supposed to either shut or be banned, hence my own snark.

Peace!