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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:12 AM May 2016

Matt Taibi : HRC Ad Against Trump Makes Dems Look Sleazy

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/05/26/hillary-clintons-new-anti-trump-ad-misses-mark

believably, it makes the Democrats look sleazy and disingenuous in comparison.

The ad begins with a picture of a grinning Trump and the words, "In 2006, Donald Trump was hoping for a real estate crash."

It proceeds to a series of grim scenes from the financial crisis. Against a Roger and Me-esque montage of blighted neighborhoods, it reads off stats: "9 million Americans lost their jobs. 5 million people lost their homes."

Then it returns to a grinning Trump, and another line:

"And the man who could be our next president…

was rooting for it to happen."

Then we hear Trump talking about how a bursting of the real-estate bubble would be an opportunity for rich folks like himself.

"I sort of hope that happens, because then people like me would go in and buy," Trump says, in an interview from 2006. "If there is a bubble burst, as they call it, you know, you could make a lot of money."

Cut to: "If Donald wins, you lose."

This ad is disingenuous in a dozen different ways. For one thing, the destruction that the Clinton campaign describes was not caused by people swooping in after the bubble burst, buying at the bottom of the market.

It was caused by the existence of a speculative bubble in the first place. And that bubble was inflated not by Donald Trump, but by the people who have at least in part bankrolled Hillary Clinton's career: namely, Wall Street banks.

In the mid-2000s, a speculative mania swallowed up the real-estate markets largely because Wall Street discovered a new (and often criminally fraudulent) way to peddle mortgage securities.
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Matt Taibi : HRC Ad Against Trump Makes Dems Look Sleazy (Original Post) amborin May 2016 OP
The ads main point was that Donald was hoping for the crash-it would be good for business. riversedge May 2016 #1
Which is 100 percent true. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #14
she can't even be honest when she is attacking a worthy target TheSarcastinator May 2016 #2
BOOM! pinebox May 2016 #18
...!100++++ 840high May 2016 #32
What BS. Trump does terrible, awful, horrible things, but pointing them out is 'sleazy'. Ugh. CrowCityDem May 2016 #3
I thought it was a good, effective ad. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #4
"an asshole who doesn't care about what happens to people as long as he can profit" BernieforPres2016 May 2016 #17
Yes it does. 840high May 2016 #33
Hardly unexpected ... a BS cheerleader being an apologist for tRump n/t SFnomad May 2016 #5
yeah, you sure know Matt Taibbi! TheSarcastinator May 2016 #9
I was talking about the OP itself ... but nice try n/t SFnomad May 2016 #10
Hillary hater writes screeds against her all the time and has for years...yawn. Demsrule86 May 2016 #35
Fully expected: Bluenorthwest May 2016 #23
"Never wrestle with a pig." hellofromreddit May 2016 #6
Defending Trump at DU? onehandle May 2016 #7
We have many here who will vote for him. CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #15
Mmmm-hmmmmm frylock May 2016 #26
So now we have people on DU decrying a DEMOCRATIC ad against the republican nominee? George II May 2016 #8
The GE can't be called soon enough for me Demsrule86 May 2016 #36
It's not OK to call him out for rooting for a Real Estate crash when he did just that? stevenleser May 2016 #11
attacking words instead of deeds reddread May 2016 #13
Matt Taibbi calling something sleazy is highly ironic. nt One of the 99 May 2016 #12
in what way? I am curious corkhead May 2016 #21
?? frylock May 2016 #27
Unrec. Trump support doesn't belong on DU. FSogol May 2016 #16
lol You are getting good at this aren't you? pinebox May 2016 #19
You should wander over to the ask the admins section sometime CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #22
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Peacetrain May 2016 #20
who are you saying is the Trump supporter? Taibi or the writer of the OP? corkhead May 2016 #24
Got to run smarter ads than this. EndElectoral May 2016 #25
President Bill Clinton lobbied hard for and signed the bill that merrily May 2016 #28
Trump says out loud what many Democrats said and did in private. bvar22 May 2016 #29
I like the ad Doctor_J May 2016 #30
Good question, what's worse, the people who caused the crash or those who took advantage of it. (nt) thesquanderer May 2016 #31
probably a lot of common names in those two groups n/t 0rganism May 2016 #34
Her videos work against her, not for her Laughing Mirror May 2016 #37

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
2. she can't even be honest when she is attacking a worthy target
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:15 AM
May 2016

She's so crooked she has to screw on her pantsuit every morning. Pathetic.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
4. I thought it was a good, effective ad.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:18 AM
May 2016

The point of it was not about what caused the crash but the fact that Trump would welcome one because he could make money from it - pointing out that Trump is an asshole who doesn't care about what happens to people as long as he can profit.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
17. "an asshole who doesn't care about what happens to people as long as he can profit"
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:15 PM
May 2016

Does that not also describe Bill Clinton, and Hillary Clinton if you change the "he" to "she"?

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
9. yeah, you sure know Matt Taibbi!
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:26 AM
May 2016

Once again, Hillarians demonstrate their astute understanding of politics. You can't lose!!!

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
35. Hillary hater writes screeds against her all the time and has for years...yawn.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:34 PM
May 2016

"...And to one degree or another, the modern Democratic Party, often including Hillary Clinton personally, has been on the wrong side of virtually all of these issues."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/why-young-people-are-right-about-hillary-clinton-20160325#ixzz49smN7t00
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
15. We have many here who will vote for him.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:49 AM
May 2016

I don't mean stay home, I mean literally vote for him. Posters who have been around here for a decade or more will cast their ballots for an orange bigot out of spite.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. So now we have people on DU decrying a DEMOCRATIC ad against the republican nominee?
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:25 AM
May 2016

What has DEMOCRATIC Underground become?

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
36. The GE can't be called soon enough for me
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:35 PM
May 2016

I can hardly wait until...not more Faux, Breitbart and Trump supporters.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
11. It's not OK to call him out for rooting for a Real Estate crash when he did just that?
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:33 AM
May 2016

Is Taibbi chasing the dragon again?

Under what twisted rules is this not completely in bounds?

 

CorkySt.Clair

(1,507 posts)
22. You should wander over to the ask the admins section sometime
Fri May 27, 2016, 12:39 PM
May 2016

It's rather illuminating about DU's short term future.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. President Bill Clinton lobbied hard for and signed the bill that
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:07 PM
May 2016

left crap mortgage derivatives unregulated, namely the Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000. That bill led to the crash in 2008 in several nations and to unknown numbers of foreclosures in the US.

Soon, someone will come along and note that Bernie voted for this bill, so let me beat them to it. Bernie voted for this bill ONLY because, in desperation to get it passed, someone wrapped it in with a bill that prevented a Republican shut down of the government, something that was then unthinkable.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
29. Trump says out loud what many Democrats said and did in private.
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:09 PM
May 2016

Most of The RICH (Democrats and Republicans) took advantage of the situation (Buy Low.Sell High)....but what caused it?

Answer:
1) A "Housing Bubble" combined with lax banking & Lending regulation (Thanks, Bill), possibly manipulated for the reason stated above.

2) Bailing Out Wall Street instead of Main Street


[font size=3]Paulson with Co-Conspirators

Now THIS is Bi-Partisanship!!!
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Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
30. I like the ad
Fri May 27, 2016, 01:14 PM
May 2016

Trump was rooting for the collapse. He's a skeezy carnival barker who cares nothing for working people, and especially for honest people. This should be a highlight of the ge campaign.

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
37. Her videos work against her, not for her
Fri May 27, 2016, 03:11 PM
May 2016

Every one of them I've looked at that attacks Trump is actually an advertisement for him, delivering the opposite message of what's intended. The people putting these things together don't even seem to realize it. Every time I see one of these it's like one more nail in her coffin.

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