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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:16 PM May 2016

Bernie Sanders is done. He has lost. Case closed.

Only someone whose mind is lost in some other galaxy thinks that Bernie Sanders still has some kind of "path" to the Democratic nomination. Sorry, but that is just plain WRONG.

He has lost fair and square. Now sure, go ahead and finish out the primaries. Let everyone vote. I'm all for it.

But this primary was over for all intents and purposes after Super Tuesday. The writing was on the wall.

I like Bernie, but he was never a Democrat. He knew it would be very hard for him to win because he said so. He was welcomed into the party and has benefited from all it does for candidates (voter data and all the rest). He hasn't won as many states, has lost the big states, and hasn't won nearly as many popular votes. He is so behind in pledged delegates that there is no way for him to catch up. Bernie is a self-avowed socialist and would be crushed by negative ads. As of yet he has not had to endure a single negative ad and has not been fully vetted. He is seriously under-informed around policy, especially foreign policy. (And the email stuff? My goodness, if parroting ridiculous right wing hype about Hillary's "damn emails" that BERNIE is "sick and tired of hearing about" is all the anti-Hillary people have, then they sure don't have much at all. The email stuff is much ado about very little. This week's report about that revealed very little that was new, and, as the Newsweek article shows in detail, is still no REAL "scandal." It's not like Hillary Clinton was trying to be a double agent for Russia with her email.)

It will be Hillary or FrankenTrump, and Bernie says FrankenTrump would be a "disaster for this country."

Case closed. Next case.

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Bernie Sanders is done. He has lost. Case closed. (Original Post) RBInMaine May 2016 OP
That just tells me you are worried NWCorona May 2016 #1
That makes no sense... Corporate666 May 2016 #17
If I posted that the earth was round, does that mean I'm really worried that it is flat? anotherproletariat May 2016 #46
FBI investigations and indictment. Foreign hackers and plea deals. Aides pleading the 5th. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #2
You must watch Fox News. ronnykmarshall May 2016 #34
These have been front page news stories in most every newspaper in America. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #40
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #44
welcome to ignore. Hiraeth May 2016 #45
Well it is a dumpster fire of a campaign, but... scscholar May 2016 #42
Despite her attempts to shut down any debate with her "inevitability" propaganda. w4rma May 2016 #43
When I think "Democrat", I think of FDR... Cooley Hurd May 2016 #3
With the incline getting higher for Sanders it was too much, wasnt going to happen. Thinkingabout May 2016 #4
Why thank you for "letting the voting continue" Silver_Witch May 2016 #27
As a lifelong Democrat I am quiet happy with the Democratic Party and what the party stands. Thinkingabout May 2016 #38
You have been saying the same thing for months jopacaco May 2016 #5
You spend an awful lot of time bitching and moaning about someone who's "done" Scootaloo May 2016 #6
^^^ THIS ^^^ HumanityExperiment May 2016 #9
They must feel an urge to correct a record Mike__M May 2016 #36
Thank you. QC May 2016 #31
Sanders lost on Super Tuesday Gothmog May 2016 #7
Which Super Tuesday? There were like 47 of them weren't there? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #25
I'm sure Gothmog means March 1st. Garrett78 May 2016 #35
March 15th being another one of the OTHER Super Tuesdays, right? cherokeeprogressive May 2016 #37
March 1st was the 'official', if you will, "Super Tuesday." But, yes, it wasn't the only big day. Garrett78 May 2016 #39
"I like Bernie" - right, of course you do. Followed by "Bernie is a self-avowed socialist " - ah Warren Stupidity May 2016 #8
Modern, cyber-hippie-punching... Cooley Hurd May 2016 #12
The path is only one of many goals. oldandhappy May 2016 #10
You must be worried about the FBI report. HooptieWagon May 2016 #11
Case Closed? bvar22 May 2016 #13
Votes and not Polls tells us who is "weak." fun n serious May 2016 #14
What votes are you talking about? bvar22 May 2016 #19
Except there isn't a correlation between a general election poll in the primary mythology May 2016 #21
There has not been one convention vote. Case not closed. rateyes May 2016 #15
Skinner has said he will call it after the primaries are over. mythology May 2016 #23
He was done in March. nt LexVegas May 2016 #16
"Case Closed" my effing ASS. Miles Archer May 2016 #18
You're on a roll. Broward May 2016 #20
I think you meant "you're a troll." Ed Suspicious May 2016 #30
Then don't sweat it, RB. No reason to state the obvious. dinkytron May 2016 #22
The sky is blue! Sounds funny screamed from the rooftops. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #32
Months ago there were multiple requests for someone to produce a viable path via delegate math. Garrett78 May 2016 #24
Clinton needs 73 more delegates to clinch. ucrdem May 2016 #26
Broken Record cantbeserious May 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #29
LOL, 3 posts n the main page. You love attention. nt Logical May 2016 #33
Good. So there is no need for the DNC to cheat in any of the upcoming states then. So it's GoneFishin May 2016 #41

Corporate666

(587 posts)
17. That makes no sense...
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:18 PM
May 2016

if I ask my boss for a raise and promotion, and he says no... does that mean they are worried that I might be the most amazing person ever and embarass them with my productivity?


Or, does it just mean they don't want to give me a raise and promotion?


Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

And sometimes a loser is just a loser.

And sometimes pointing out that someone is a loser is just pointing out that they are a loser.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
46. If I posted that the earth was round, does that mean I'm really worried that it is flat?
Sat May 28, 2016, 01:52 AM
May 2016

Strange logic people.

Response to w4rma (Reply #40)

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
43. Despite her attempts to shut down any debate with her "inevitability" propaganda.
Sat May 28, 2016, 12:35 AM
May 2016

She hasn't won the campaign. She is ahead in the primary and set to lose the general election, badly.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
3. When I think "Democrat", I think of FDR...
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:21 PM
May 2016

Senator Sanders is MUCH closer to FDR than Secretary Clinton can ever be.

Sorry, case is still open, especially given Secretary Clinton is spending more time playing defense as of late than anything.

That said, IF (it's still an IF until Philly) Secretary Clinton gets the nom, I will campaign and vote for her, because, given her high negative #'s, she's gonna need all the help she can get...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. With the incline getting higher for Sanders it was too much, wasnt going to happen.
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:22 PM
May 2016

Let the voting continue, winning is not an option for Sanders. Accepting the results and moving along to the GE would be good.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
27. Why thank you for "letting the voting continue"
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:48 PM
May 2016

How very very gracious of you to allow us to keep on moving forward. The primary is about much more than simple voting. A change is coming and conservative democrats are going to be very disappointed. Thankfully I will be around to watch the nashing of teeth and wailing.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
38. As a lifelong Democrat I am quiet happy with the Democratic Party and what the party stands.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:22 PM
May 2016

If I wanted to be a Republican I have had many opportunities to be one, if I wanted to be in the Green party ib would, if I wanted to be in the otherv parties, I would join them, I would join and follow their agenda, I don't want to follow another agenda so thr record I will remain a Democrat, you are welcome to join, we don't need your changes.

jopacaco

(133 posts)
5. You have been saying the same thing for months
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:25 PM
May 2016

I remember a similar comment before the Maine caucuses. Give it up and let this election play out. This election season is unlike any previous one so anything could happen.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
9. ^^^ THIS ^^^
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:42 PM
May 2016

there's many HRC supporters ratting that same 'saber' all over GD-P, so many bitch and moans and he's 'done'

anything to distract from the train wreck that is HRC as a candidate

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
39. March 1st was the 'official', if you will, "Super Tuesday." But, yes, it wasn't the only big day.
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:28 PM
May 2016

Every primary calendar has a day that the media and others dub "Super Tuesday," but there are always other significant Tuesdays, as well.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
8. "I like Bernie" - right, of course you do. Followed by "Bernie is a self-avowed socialist " - ah
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:38 PM
May 2016

now you are getting to what really concerns you. You are a right-wing Democrat. Our party has a YUUUUGE Schism. Your side most likely has won this round (but not quite yet), but it is a victory that may in fact be very short lived. I'd hold off on the celebratory "fuck off lefties" posts for a while.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
10. The path is only one of many goals.
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:43 PM
May 2016

The movement is alive and well and lots of people are active and I have a suggestion for you. Keep your eye on the 2018 ballot!! No Bernie but many Bernie peeps will be fledging. A new generation of activists is well on their way. You need not be afraid of Bernie. But you might want to be caution about closing the case.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. You must be worried about the FBI report.
Fri May 27, 2016, 05:44 PM
May 2016

There's a broad streak of panic running through your post. Yea, I'd be panicked too, if my candidate was the target of an FBI criminal investigation. Too bad she and her elitist supporters are hell-bent on taking the party down with her, but we'll manage to rebuild a real progressive party in place of the fake-republican one.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
13. Case Closed?
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:04 PM
May 2016

Then say "Hello" to President Trump, who is now polling ahead of Hillary,
while polls show Sanders beating Trump by double digits.
Don't you think it is foolish to nominate the weaker candidate for the General Election?
THAT is the ONE MAJOR ISSUE that our "Super delegates" need to take seriously.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
19. What votes are you talking about?
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:38 PM
May 2016

The GE isn't until November.
Until then, all we have is the polls.

rateyes

(17,438 posts)
15. There has not been one convention vote. Case not closed.
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:13 PM
May 2016

Can't wait for that messy convention! The reason Skinner hasn't "called it" is because he knows the case isn't closed yet, and he doesn't want to lose Bernie's supporters from this site, IMHO.

But, hey, keep on trying!

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
23. Skinner has said he will call it after the primaries are over.
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:56 PM
May 2016

It won't be a messy convention. Even if Sanders attempts to go all the way to the convention, he's not going to get the super delegates to switch to him given Clinton's substantial lead in the pledged delegates and thus it will be one short vote that Sanders will lose.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
18. "Case Closed" my effing ASS.
Fri May 27, 2016, 06:28 PM
May 2016

Lovely essay. Just lovely. As someone else observed, "I like Bernie, but..."

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
32. The sky is blue! Sounds funny screamed from the rooftops.
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:54 PM
May 2016

Must be trying to convince himself of something he isn't quite so sure of.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
24. Months ago there were multiple requests for someone to produce a viable path via delegate math.
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:41 PM
May 2016

Yet the one and only example ever produced, as far as I know, was one dubbed the "Bern Path." I'm sure some here recall that. The problem is the "Bern Path" was utterly unrealistic. It had him winning NY by 8 points and PA by 16 points. It had him losing MD by just 10 points. It has him winning CA by 16 points and NJ by 12 points, while losing DC by just 16 points.

It speaks volumes that that's the best people could come up with.

While Sanders hasn't been mathematically eliminated from winning a majority of pledged delegates, it's been clear for months that he's extremely unlikely to do so.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
26. Clinton needs 73 more delegates to clinch.
Fri May 27, 2016, 10:48 PM
May 2016

Then it's over. Sanders needs 841 and has no possible chance of getting them. The elected vs super delegate quibble is a #BernieMath thing and the race ends on June 7 or before. There is no chance that Clinton will be indicted. There is no chance she will crater in CA. There is no chance that any SD who hasn't already indicated Bernie will do so. There's every chance that the reverse will occur. It really and truly is over.

https://interactives.ap.org/2016/delegate-tracker/

Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
41. Good. So there is no need for the DNC to cheat in any of the upcoming states then. So it's
Fri May 27, 2016, 11:57 PM
May 2016

guaranteed that there won't be any mysterious blocks of hundreds of thousands of likely Bernie voters' registrations flipped or lost. And Bill Clinton won't be electioneering in the entry ways to polling stations. And the DNC won't be sending out factually wrong mailers misdirecting people about when and where to vote.

Good to know.

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