2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy is Bernie doing interviews on right wing radio?
He is getting played doing these interviews and it will only hurt the DEM nominee.
Like here RWNJ making fun of him for not having a job until he was 40. What did he think they were going to be nice? Someone needs to have a talk with Bernie.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/bernie-sanders-gets-in-contentious-exchange-with-california?utm_term=.wcNyW6emW#.pjbJX8RVX
Bob-o the Clown
(35 posts)more than you are concerned about Clinton.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Posts since earlier this week.
Wonder why.
TheKentuckian
(25,190 posts)Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)Republicans are not the audience for Bernie.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)I think it is a brave move for Bernie to do that, and about time.
The simple truth is our two-party system doesn't give a shit about the average American. Both parties are just out there to lasso the power of government for the benefit mostly of party cronies and to corporations that feed them. This whole liberal/conservative, red/blue right-wing/left-wing business is a smokescreen to keep the general public divided and powerless.
Poll after poll has shown that large majorities -- 70% or 80% -- agree with the things Bernie has been fighting for. And by the way, they agree with some of the things that Trump has brought out as well.
If Bernie is the nominee, he will win the support of a great many of those against whom the system is rigged.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)So Bernie and Trump are playing for the same voting bloc?
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Hillary and that gaggle of GOP losers are all products of a system that has been 100% controlled by the largest corporations for decades. They are various shares of fascist, but they are all fascists. Maybe Hillary is the least objectionable fascist out there, but she will do whatever the corporations want.
I don't trust Trump. In office, I think he would do something completely different from what he campaigns about. But his campaign rhetoric, in many ways, isn't that much different from Sanders'. In both cases, the primary issue is that Americans have been getting screwed and the system is not working for us any more.
Sanders and Trump -- not Hillary -- are the ones getting the huge crowds. In Trumps case, he is getting intense amounts of free media coverage. Sanders is getting almost no coverage, yet he is still drawing the largest crowds. They are not necessarily appealing to the same people, but they are both crossing the traditional party boundaries. That is a good thing, IMHO. This 2-party system has made America the least democratic of all the so-called democracies.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Isn't Hillary Clinton seeking to win over Republican voters?
Why yes, yes she is.
While we're at it, wasn't she also looking to win over Republcian donors from other, failed campaigns as well?
Well how about that.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)this radio show is far right wing nut jobs. They're too far right. Would be like Cruz going on Cenk.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Man, if it weren't for double standards, you guys would have no standards at all!
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)By letting these politicians live within little bubbles where they never have to actually discuss their policies in any depth and never have to field a challenging question, we get politicians who stand for nothing, except for the interests of those funding them.
I would respect Cruz if he went on TYT and gave an intelligent, spirited defense of the things he believes in. I think we would all be far better off if more of that was going on. For one thing, the politicians might have to consider that what they are saying is complete bullshit, and they might actually give some intelligent thought to their positions.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Tell us why Bernie goes on right wing shows. Go ahead. I'm kind of tired of disingenuous questions anyhow. Say what you mean to say.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)You do know Clinton is trying to win over Republicans
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-republican-party.html?_r=0
So you are okay with Hillary wooing republicans - but NOT okay with Bernie talking on a right-wing station.
Bizarrely interesting.
thesquanderer
(12,066 posts)It means where you find them.
Bernie can get votes from people in the middle and even on the right who don't like Trump. It is beneficial for him to make his case to them, rather than to simply write them off.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)It's called getting out in front of the audience no matter who they are, introducing yourself, explaining your positions, educating them and thereby destroying the false memes of the propaganda machine ... on the Right! Bernie IS smart... and UNafraid!
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)WhiteTara
(29,790 posts)they beat him.
-none
(1,884 posts)How is that not a good thing?
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)they won't vote for Hillary or Bernie. They just want to play around with Bernie. He should stay away from them. IMO
-none
(1,884 posts)Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)that host sounded condescending. I'm a Hillary supporter but it still bothers me if a RWNJ is condescending to my fellow progressive. I know I criticize Bernie but I don't like when the Right does it.
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SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)Sanders is no candidate for any office.
-none
(1,884 posts)The Democratic convention has not happened yet. Neither has Hillary gotten the required number of delegates. And not all the states have had their primaries yet. So your post is in error.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Oh yeah, I forgot. He's gonna sink poor delicate Hillary.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Got a name-call out of you. Interesting.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)w4rma
(31,700 posts)Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)Media busy boosting Trump.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)She has been doing Rally after rally and calling in.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)And we all know that a lot of tough questions will be asked, from here on out, about her FBI investigation.
nilram
(2,900 posts)Right, here's one in San Jose on Thursday. "Speaking to a couple thousand supporters ..."
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Hillary-Clinton-Rally-in-San-Jose-Draws-Supporters-Protestors-381013201.html
Oh, and, "At a second Bay Area campaign rally this afternoon, Hillary Clinton told more than 200 supporters in San Francisco..."
http://abc7news.com/politics/hillary-clinton-makes-campaign-stop-in-san-francisco/1358461/
Whew! Impressive that she got so many supporters in rural San Francisco. But clearly they made her feel right at home -- "Clinton came on stage at about 5 p.m. below a gold gilded ceiling and between gold gilded walls at The Hibernia Bank at 1 Jones St."
They can do gold gilding nearly as well as in her home state of Wall Street--sorry, I mean, her home state of New York.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)Good point
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)the Superbowl.
And the likely reason he did it was to get his message out to people that might
not otherwise hear it.
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)But I see what you mean.. Obama was promoting ACA.
BootinUp
(47,457 posts)Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)TSIAS
(14,689 posts)And not change his tune to pander to his audience. He's not scripted and will talk to almost anybody. He's not like Hillary who carefully manipulates her public image.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)Seems to be working. I am okay with it.
pansypoo53219
(21,110 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)....he is pretty much gone rogue and mostly likely ends up destroying our country, in the end with trump
Buddyblazon
(3,014 posts)Just because you stuck a feather up your butt it doesn't make you a chicken.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)These are the questions!
Vinca
(50,411 posts)Hillary should be doing right wing radio, too.
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)Is she afraid of Republicans?
How will Hillary fair as POTUS when she can't even go into their strongholds?
Bawk bawk bawk?