AP, 5/27: Hillary needs 73 delegates to clinch; Bernie needs 841.

[ucrdem]

https://interactives.ap.org/2016/delegate-tracker/

[Tavarious Jackson]

1. Bernie needs more than 8 times more than what Hillary needs?

and he thinks this is close?

[ucrdem]

2. All he needs is ~67% and he's master of the universe . . .

and then I woke up.

[Tavarious Jackson]

13. That must have been a nightmare

[ucrdem]

15. Too much Ben and Jerry's before bedtime.

[Tavarious Jackson]

16. Lol!

Glad to see you, and hill supporters cheery today.

[ucrdem]

17. June 7 is going to be like an early Independence Day.

[LiberalFighter]

33. Actually he needs 92.1% of the remaining delegates

While Clinton needs 7.99%

[beachbumbob]

3. Alternative reality with any and all hopes on the destruction of the

Democratic Party and our nominee...screw America...ego comes first.

[ucrdem]

4. If he won every single pledged delegate in CA he still will have lost before the polls close.

But he's going for broke anyway.

[CorporatistNation]

12. A TOTAL EFFING LIE! IT's The PLEDGED DELEGATES That Are Required... The Supers ONLY Count

AT THE CONVENTION! THUS THIS WILL BE A CONTESTED CONVENTION! STFU WITH THE PROPAGANDA! It's not becoming of a DEMOCRAT! A FASCIST YES ... but NOT a DEMOCRAT!

[ucrdem]

14. They both vote at the convention.

I heard Weaver toss out the SDs-only-vote-at-the-convention line in an NPR interview like it meant something profound but it really doesn't. It's just another deceptive meme.

[FarPoint]

19. Better luck next time...

Maybe or maybe not, Sanders can highjack the entire Democratic Party. But, not this Election cycle. It has been this way since the 80's. Sanders had plenty of time, years actually to join the Democratic Party and add his insight.. Sanders chose poor timing.

[onenote]

24. You can shout all you want, but until you provide any evidence to suggest

that the Democratic party insiders who have supported Clinton since the day she announced her candidacy are going to switch from their stated positions, all you are doing is wearing out the caps lock button.

[FarPoint]

30. Let us look at it this way....

Bernie is not a known, contributing member of the Democratic Party, he never has been one of us . The superdelegates feel as we Hillary supporters feel...we will not endorse a hijacking....they will stop it immediately.

"For the Watch".

[Tarc]

28. You do not know the meaning of the word "contested" or how it does not apply here

[Renew Deal]

32. Watch what happens when Hillary hits 2383. Your caps lock will not save you.

[LiberalFighter]

34. If it only requires the pledged delegates to reach it then why bother with unpledged delegates?

The convention rules don't specify majority of pledged delegates.

Rule VIII 7 b
A majority vote of the Convention’s delegates shall be required to nominate the presidential candidate.

Pledged and unpledged delegates are subsets of the convention delegates.

Pledged delegates don't count either until the convention is called to order.

There is nothing undemocratic about following the rules or recognizing the reality about a situation.

[CorporatistNation]

40. This Entire Post Is A LIE! She Needs OVER 600 PLEDGED Delegates To Clinch!

That means the delegates obtained from winning primaries. TOTAL AND COMPLETE ESTABLISHMENT PROPAGANDA THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS!

You might want to check THIS out before you get your hopes up too high...

MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

[ucrdem]

41. Isn't Mika a co-host of a conservative cable chat show?

I didn't watch your video, but if this is what she's saying, she's wrong. Omit the SDs and the bar is a little higher but she's still winning and she'll clear both thresholds on June 7

[livetohike]

5. Maybe he can win all of the California delegates

twice. That should do it. 😊

[ucrdem]

7. Yep.

Because #Bernie.

[TwilightZone]

29. I've been joking for a while that all he needs is 106% of CA and he's set.

That wouldn't even work anymore.

[ucrdem]

6. A word about the Kornacki theory:

The yarn put out by the Sanders campaign is that if Sanders can somehow hit the bogus number of 2023 pledged (elected) delegates, which he can't, that would require the superdelegates planning to vote for Hillary to vote for him. As if.

Anyway the problem here is that it requires a strangely contradictory view of superdelegates, holding that they don't count until they count for him. It's bizarre and ridiculous and at this point no SD in their right noodle would touch the Sanders campaign anyway unless they were sick of politics and ready to start a new life.



The number of delegates -- elected and super -- required to clinch is 2,383. And then it's over.

[grossproffit]

8. It's a real nail biter!

[ucrdem]

9. I'm on pins and needles!

[think]

10. Hillary bought those super delegates fair and square...

[ucrdem]

11. You can look at it that way.

Or you can say she helped grow the party.

[oberliner]

20. Even if you split the Super D's 50/50 Hillary is still ahead

That should mean something.

[FarPoint]

21. No...

They serve at the Pleasure of the President.. Hillary Clinton.

[think]

22. Y'all are something else. What a ridiculous comment.

[randome]

25. Did Sanders even bother to talk with them? Seems like he missed the boat from the get-go.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[LiberalFighter]

35. Actually he did in August 2015

Democratic National Committee Summer Meeting

[randome]

36. I stand corrected. However, giving a speech is not the same as a personal conversation.

I think Sanders has been unable to establish the kind of personal relationships that are necessary to build coalitions and teamwork. Supporting that idea is the fact that so few of his colleagues were willing to endorse him.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[LiberalFighter]

37. You are correct about that.

That apparently is his MO in Congress too. He must not like small personal gatherings. Large crowds where he doesn't have to speak face to face suits him better.

[onenote]

26. Do tell. How did she "buy" them?

And why would the Superdelegates, who are Democratic Party insiders -- the "Democratic Establishment" -- support the candidate that is attacking them?

Here's a simple question: Patrick Leahy has been a Superdelegate election year after election year. Peter Welch is a Superdelegate. Bernie Sanders has never, ever been a Superdelegate. Do you know why?

[think]

27. The Hillary Victory slush fund. The fund that was suppose to raise funds for other

Democrats but instead has been used to prop up Hillary's campaign instead...

[onenote]

31. Wait. Money not spent on other Democrats bought those Democrats?

You have a serious logic fail going on.

[oberliner]

18. Even if you divide the Super D's 50/50, Hillary is still ahead

An important point to keep in mind.

[Sancho]

23. Hillary might have the delegates needed before June 7.

Super delegates plus Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands may put her over the top by June 4-5.

[mackdaddy]

38. I do not care about Super Delegates until the convention!

If the SD's override the voters, then why the hell even have the primaries when the Elites just choose our candidates for us?

What do the actual voters think? Why is that such a difficult thing. Hill is ahead of Bernie 54% to 46%, and most elections have been splitting 50/50 so there is not much of a chance of Bernie catching up. But June 7 is only a bit over a week away, and has an enormous percentage of the country's population, so let them at least have their say. Or to Californian, New Jersey and the others voting on final Tuesday, are we saying "YOUR VOTE DOES NOT COUNT!".

On the AP tracker above, you can not even look at just the elected delegate count without the Super (demi-gods) delegates. Even the Democratic Party itself has issued statements that Super Delegates should not be considered until after the primary voting is completed.

[ucrdem]

39. Super delegates aren't overriding the voters. The popular vote agrees with them.

The spread is bigger but there's no "overriding" except in Sanders' ave maria scenario: