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CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:16 AM May 2016

Now We Know Who Trump Fears... Hint... It's NOT Hillary!

The problem for Trump is that when debating Bernie there are zero ancillary issues to go after him on to deflect and avoid having to debate actual policy positions, rationales for and against said policy(s) etc. Now Hillary may be able to talk policy, however when it would come to actually "debating" Trump... She would NEVER get the opportunity because the entire affair would be dominated by all of the controversy both past AND present that the Clinton(s) have engendered over the past 25 years or more. Trump debating Hillary would ... BE A CIRCUS in a BAD way for Democrats.... while in contrast, Bernie DEBATING Trump would be a CIRCUS in a good way for Democrats!


The Super Delegates are going to have some soul searching to do come the Convention....



Anyone who denies that is ignoring the obvious.
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Now We Know Who Trump Fears... Hint... It's NOT Hillary! (Original Post) CorporatistNation May 2016 OP
I can't wait for the convention metroins May 2016 #1
I'm With You On The Convention! GONNA BE A BLAST! We May Even See Some DEMOCRACY Come Out OF IT! CorporatistNation May 2016 #2
play by the rules? DrDan May 2016 #6
"IGNORANCE IS OUR GREATEST THREAT!" CorporatistNation May 2016 #8
Trump pretty much Demsrule86 May 2016 #3
IF Bernie Is Such A Lightweight, Would Have Been A Good Warmup... Nah... Bernie Would... CorporatistNation May 2016 #7
Yes, some are denying the obvious. T minus 10 days. grossproffit May 2016 #4
he is reluctant to go after bernie because he wants him to succeed and become the nominee DrDan May 2016 #5
You think Super D's should not support the candidate with the most pledged delegates? oberliner May 2016 #9
I think that super delegates madokie May 2016 #10
But even if you cancel all the Super D's, Hillary is ahead on just pledged delegates oberliner May 2016 #12
We have a ways to go yet madokie May 2016 #13
That's true oberliner May 2016 #14
All I'll agree to is madokie May 2016 #15
Understood oberliner May 2016 #19
I respect you madokie May 2016 #20
Likewise oberliner May 2016 #21
I can madokie May 2016 #22
"Never underestimate me" madokie May 2016 #17
Hillary Is A Poor Candidate! WHere There Was HEAVY SMOKE Before, NOW There Is BIGGG FIRE! CorporatistNation May 2016 #16
By what means will she not be the nominee? oberliner May 2016 #18
Of course, I think both Trump and the GOP are smart enough NorthCarolina May 2016 #11

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
2. I'm With You On The Convention! GONNA BE A BLAST! We May Even See Some DEMOCRACY Come Out OF IT!
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:32 AM
May 2016

The blindness of those who continue to support a tragically flawed candidate is indeed mind boggling. Think about the effect on the youngest among us if the kind of behavior over such an extended period of time... (decades) is rewarded... What is the message that is conveyed to young people?

Demsrule86

(68,513 posts)
3. Trump pretty much
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:33 AM
May 2016

said it would be unseemly to debate the loser of the primary...he thinks Bernie is a lightweight.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
7. IF Bernie Is Such A Lightweight, Would Have Been A Good Warmup... Nah... Bernie Would...
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:51 AM
May 2016

LIGHT HIM UP! Read the post... Hillary and her HISTORY is ALL that a Trump Clinton "debate" would be about! The Clinton folks who are with her irrespective of WHAT she has said or done are just as....

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
5. he is reluctant to go after bernie because he wants him to succeed and become the nominee
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:36 AM
May 2016

A successful attack would put bernie further out of the race.

And trump cannot show ANY weakness and maintain his base. He would have to attack.

so obvious

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. You think Super D's should not support the candidate with the most pledged delegates?
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:53 AM
May 2016

They should flip and nominate the second place finisher? Is that something that Sanders would really support?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. I think that super delegates
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:00 AM
May 2016

that have already given their support before a vote is cast is WRONG as WRONG can be. So yes to your question

SD has been a club used to beat Sanders over the head with since day one. Fuck hill and her SD's

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. But even if you cancel all the Super D's, Hillary is ahead on just pledged delegates
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:02 AM
May 2016

The only way Bernie can win would be if the Super D's actually go against the pledged delegate results.

Wouldn't it be more fair to just cancel the votes of all the Super D's?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
13. We have a ways to go yet
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:05 AM
May 2016

The primary isn't over before the last count.

A lot has happened in the last few days/weeks

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. That's true
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:07 AM
May 2016

There is definitely still a chance that Bernie can win NJ and CA by large enough margins to take the lead in pledged delegates. If he does that, I think he should be the nominee. Would you agree that if he is unable to do that, and Hillary leads in pledged delegates, that she should be the nominee?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
15. All I'll agree to is
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:09 AM
May 2016

I'll vote for Hillary if I have too. I'll hand my ballot to the poll worker to scan it rather than put it in the machine myself. If that is allowed that is

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Understood
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:26 AM
May 2016

I am just making the point that the winner with pledged delegates ought to be the nominee, and the Super D's should not overrule that in either direction.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
20. I respect you
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:35 AM
May 2016

and what you're saying

I just have a problem now with Hillary. Not too long ago I was all for her and her chance for being the first woman President but something happened in the last couple years that changed my mind. Really can't pin it down on anything except I just don't feel I can trust her to be honest with me.

I'm nearing the end of my time here and have a wonderful grand daughter I'm worried for. I want her to have a much better life than what I see she'll have if we as a country don't make some changes now. I'm an old hippie that thought we'd be in a much better place than we are today all those years ago and can hardly believe we as the phenomenon that we were didn't follow though with a stronger push for our vision

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
21. Likewise
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:44 AM
May 2016

I certainly understand the sentiments you are expressing. Hillary is a very flawed candidate, and I fear that we might be thrust into the nightmare of a President Trump. That being said, i think we need to respect the outcome of the nomination process and work as hard as we can together to defeat the Republicans. While at the same time, people who are more in the Bernie camp than the Hillary one can continue to fight for the causes that have been the signature issues of his campaign. That fight would have to go on even if Bernie did win the White House.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
22. I can
Sat May 28, 2016, 10:16 AM
May 2016

agree with what you're saying and will do all I can to make sure we don't have a tRump pResidency. Thanks for this exchange that has helped me to form a more solid stance in my Support for the Dem Candidate, no matter who it is. We have to Win this one.

Have a great weekend

Peace

madokie

(51,076 posts)
17. "Never underestimate me"
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:12 AM
May 2016

are the words that resonates in my head when I think about this primary.

Those are the words of one Bernie Sanders, early on.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
16. Hillary Is A Poor Candidate! WHere There Was HEAVY SMOKE Before, NOW There Is BIGGG FIRE!
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:10 AM
May 2016

Hillary in the end, will NOT be the nominee! She will have not a soul to blame, but herself.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
11. Of course, I think both Trump and the GOP are smart enough
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

to correctly interpret the myriad of polls showing that Bernie bests Trump quite handily.

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