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Sat May 28, 2016, 07:16 AM

Now We Know Who Trump Fears... Hint... It's NOT Hillary!

The problem for Trump is that when debating Bernie there are zero ancillary issues to go after him on to deflect and avoid having to debate actual policy positions, rationales for and against said policy(s) etc. Now Hillary may be able to talk policy, however when it would come to actually "debating" Trump... She would NEVER get the opportunity because the entire affair would be dominated by all of the controversy both past AND present that the Clinton(s) have engendered over the past 25 years or more. Trump debating Hillary would ... BE A CIRCUS in a BAD way for Democrats.... while in contrast, Bernie DEBATING Trump would be a CIRCUS in a good way for Democrats!


The Super Delegates are going to have some soul searching to do come the Convention....



Anyone who denies that is ignoring the obvious.

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Reply Now We Know Who Trump Fears... Hint... It's NOT Hillary! (Original post)
CorporatistNation May 2016 OP
metroins May 2016 #1
CorporatistNation May 2016 #2
DrDan May 2016 #6
CorporatistNation May 2016 #8
Demsrule86 May 2016 #3
CorporatistNation May 2016 #7
grossproffit May 2016 #4
DrDan May 2016 #5
oberliner May 2016 #9
madokie May 2016 #10
oberliner May 2016 #12
madokie May 2016 #13
oberliner May 2016 #14
madokie May 2016 #15
oberliner May 2016 #19
madokie May 2016 #20
oberliner May 2016 #21
madokie May 2016 #22
madokie May 2016 #17
CorporatistNation May 2016 #16
oberliner May 2016 #18
NorthCarolina May 2016 #11

Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:25 AM

1. I can't wait for the convention

Then we can get past the people projecting Bernie fantasy.

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Response to metroins (Reply #1)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:32 AM

2. I'm With You On The Convention! GONNA BE A BLAST! We May Even See Some DEMOCRACY Come Out OF IT!

The blindness of those who continue to support a tragically flawed candidate is indeed mind boggling. Think about the effect on the youngest among us if the kind of behavior over such an extended period of time... (decades) is rewarded... What is the message that is conveyed to young people?

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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #2)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:38 AM

6. play by the rules?

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Response to metroins (Reply #1)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:52 AM

8. "IGNORANCE IS OUR GREATEST THREAT!"

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:33 AM

3. Trump pretty much

said it would be unseemly to debate the loser of the primary...he thinks Bernie is a lightweight.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #3)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:51 AM

7. IF Bernie Is Such A Lightweight, Would Have Been A Good Warmup... Nah... Bernie Would...

LIGHT HIM UP! Read the post... Hillary and her HISTORY is ALL that a Trump Clinton "debate" would be about! The Clinton folks who are with her irrespective of WHAT she has said or done are just as....

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:36 AM

4. Yes, some are denying the obvious. T minus 10 days.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:36 AM

5. he is reluctant to go after bernie because he wants him to succeed and become the nominee

A successful attack would put bernie further out of the race.

And trump cannot show ANY weakness and maintain his base. He would have to attack.

so obvious

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:53 AM

9. You think Super D's should not support the candidate with the most pledged delegates?

 

They should flip and nominate the second place finisher? Is that something that Sanders would really support?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #9)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:00 AM

10. I think that super delegates

that have already given their support before a vote is cast is WRONG as WRONG can be. So yes to your question

SD has been a club used to beat Sanders over the head with since day one. Fuck hill and her SD's

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Response to madokie (Reply #10)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:02 AM

12. But even if you cancel all the Super D's, Hillary is ahead on just pledged delegates

 

The only way Bernie can win would be if the Super D's actually go against the pledged delegate results.

Wouldn't it be more fair to just cancel the votes of all the Super D's?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #12)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:05 AM

13. We have a ways to go yet

The primary isn't over before the last count.

A lot has happened in the last few days/weeks

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Response to madokie (Reply #13)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:07 AM

14. That's true

 

There is definitely still a chance that Bernie can win NJ and CA by large enough margins to take the lead in pledged delegates. If he does that, I think he should be the nominee. Would you agree that if he is unable to do that, and Hillary leads in pledged delegates, that she should be the nominee?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #14)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:09 AM

15. All I'll agree to is

I'll vote for Hillary if I have too. I'll hand my ballot to the poll worker to scan it rather than put it in the machine myself. If that is allowed that is

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Response to madokie (Reply #15)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:26 AM

19. Understood

 

I am just making the point that the winner with pledged delegates ought to be the nominee, and the Super D's should not overrule that in either direction.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #19)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:35 AM

20. I respect you

and what you're saying

I just have a problem now with Hillary. Not too long ago I was all for her and her chance for being the first woman President but something happened in the last couple years that changed my mind. Really can't pin it down on anything except I just don't feel I can trust her to be honest with me.

I'm nearing the end of my time here and have a wonderful grand daughter I'm worried for. I want her to have a much better life than what I see she'll have if we as a country don't make some changes now. I'm an old hippie that thought we'd be in a much better place than we are today all those years ago and can hardly believe we as the phenomenon that we were didn't follow though with a stronger push for our vision

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Response to madokie (Reply #20)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:44 AM

21. Likewise

 

I certainly understand the sentiments you are expressing. Hillary is a very flawed candidate, and I fear that we might be thrust into the nightmare of a President Trump. That being said, i think we need to respect the outcome of the nomination process and work as hard as we can together to defeat the Republicans. While at the same time, people who are more in the Bernie camp than the Hillary one can continue to fight for the causes that have been the signature issues of his campaign. That fight would have to go on even if Bernie did win the White House.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #21)

Sat May 28, 2016, 09:16 AM

22. I can

agree with what you're saying and will do all I can to make sure we don't have a tRump pResidency. Thanks for this exchange that has helped me to form a more solid stance in my Support for the Dem Candidate, no matter who it is. We have to Win this one.

Have a great weekend

Peace

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Response to oberliner (Reply #12)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:12 AM

17. "Never underestimate me"

are the words that resonates in my head when I think about this primary.

Those are the words of one Bernie Sanders, early on.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #9)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:10 AM

16. Hillary Is A Poor Candidate! WHere There Was HEAVY SMOKE Before, NOW There Is BIGGG FIRE!

Hillary in the end, will NOT be the nominee! She will have not a soul to blame, but herself.

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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #16)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:26 AM

18. By what means will she not be the nominee?

 

How do you think it will play out?

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Response to CorporatistNation (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:01 AM

11. Of course, I think both Trump and the GOP are smart enough

 

to correctly interpret the myriad of polls showing that Bernie bests Trump quite handily.

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