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[Barack_America]

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[dana_b]

1. is there a link? thanks n/t

[Barack_America]

7. Sorry, not sure where it went.

Had to edit a couple of times.

[Demsrule86]

71. Here

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/26/former-state-department-official-i-saw-hillary-use-non-secure-blackberry-on-foreign-trips/


Breitbart...great source not...same old same old BSSers.

[upaloopa]

2. Probably calling her daughter

What a load of crap.
Hillary used her phone

[vintx]

4. You do realize that it's not the possibility of someone listening to the call that is the problem, r

It seems llke you don't, but I don't want to presume

[Yurovsky]

8. Don't expect IT literacy from anyone defending her use...

of non-secure electronic devices. These folks are probably responding to unsolicited emails requesting account numbers and passwords in their spare time...

[vintx]

9. Good point. It's been extremely beneficial to Hillary

how little many Americans seem to understand about cyber security.

SMH

[Autumn]

66. Or just about anything else.

[grasswire]

11. yes, they apparently thinking "hacking" is done with an axe..

..sort of like "wiping" is done with a cloth.

[Yurovsky]

16. I'm sure it's all very confusing for Team Hillary...

[JudyM]

39. Ha!

[riversedge]

28. the OP went to the bottom of stinking RW sewer. enough said bye

[Barack_America]

5. Right, strictly for yoga and wedding plans...

Despite all the evidence to the contrary.

[Arazi]

6. Really? You're really going to try this defense?

[Laser102]

48. How about this one. So what? Don't care. Blackberry, emails, tin cans. So what?

[Hortensis]

50. Lol. So right. These "scandal" conspiracies are

attempts to distract people into caring passionately about what doesn't matter and also from caring about what does.

Seriously, they are so sophisticated and well funded these days that the future of our democracy depends on not being suckered.

[JudyM]

38. Yep. Wedding plans. 300,000 emails will validate that.

[Duval]

51. That's not the point.

But you probably know that. Sigh!

[Fumesucker]

3. It's not illegal when the presumptive nominee does it.

[grasswire]

12. she ain't the presumptive nominee until California votes. nt

[dana_b]

14. and NJ and all all of the other states/territories

I know that California is big but I always feel bad leaving out the other contests.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

10. Yay! Breitbart! Let's use sources that are 100% Republican lies to smear Democrats!

Any port in a fucking storm, eh?

[Wilms]

13. Are you alleging that they are lying about the deposition??

Do you have information that contests the deposition?

Or are you merely blargling dlort?

If the latter, what's that like for you?

[Wilms]

17. Nor should you.

But then it's reasonable to challenge it rather than deny the content and calling members "assholes"...a clear violation of the Toc, Doc.

So, what have you got?

I thought so.

Heal thyself, Doc.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

18. I believe posting links from RW sources is also against the TOS.

But the jury let it stay. It's apparently OK to be a RW asshole on this site.

[Wilms]

21. If your life depended on you sorting this out, would you behave as you do?

And why are you calling a DUer an "asshole"? ? There are all kinds of ways to protest. Why do you choose to act that way? Is this material painful? When did you first notice pained reactions to information? Have you reviewed these symptoms with a doctor, Doc?

It sounds horrible. Hopefully you'll feel better sometime after Hillary drops out.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

23. I never called anyone an asshole.

I asked what kind of asshole would post RW crap on a liberal board.

But jury after jury has said it's ok to be a RW asshole on DU. June 7th can't come soon enough. Then maybe the constant RW attacks on Democrats will stop.

[Wilms]

26. Kerry initiated an investigation of this matter.

In addition to calling DUers, "assholes", are you accusing Kerry of being a RWer?

[jonmac511]

42. new here but

I know breitbart is RW but I've also seen the AP called out today as being RW. If that's the case, I guess the list of acceptable sources is small, maybe BNR?

[grasswire]

20. and this is why freepers are better informed..

...about the facts of the charges than some DU members.

[Barack_America]

19. Ask Hillary's most prolific poster today.

And remember, this is a quoted deposition. Really doesn't matter who prints it. It is what it is.

[grasswire]

22. exactly.

No need to go old soviet style on FACTS.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

24. Sources matter.

Why do you like to visit Breitbart? You know every click on that site gives them money.

[Barack_America]

25. I like to visit google news.

Please propose your censorship ideas to them.

Oh, and if you'd like to read the deposition yourself.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-state-lukens-testimony-01363/

That is if the legal document is still valid in your opinion.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

27. And you give another RW link.

JudicialWatch is a RW organization. If the document is legitimate, there are other sources. I do not click on links to RW trash sites. Sources matter.

[Barack_America]

33. You haven't been following this, have you? Judicial Watch is the plaintiff...

..., you know, the "JW vs. x", which is why they have the deposition.

That doesn't change the direct quotes from Lukens's mouth. You should really be digging up dirt to discredit him if you want to refute his testimony.

[George II]

37. A right wing source reporting on a lawsuit by a right wing political organization.

Now I understand.

[Barack_America]

40. Quoting submitted legal documents and videotaped testimony.

So, yeah, pretty sure Lukens said this.

[jonmac511]

43. i guess

When you can't argue the facts, you have to argue the source(or just admit there may be something going on more than yoga). All the while one of theirs is throwing anything and everything at the wall, praying for something to stick. Blatant smears are ok but a legal deposition is terrible. I'm new here but I didn't think I joined bizarro world.

[Barack_America]

45. Welcome to DU and the unfortunate alternate reality that...

...anything hinting the Clintons are not the best things since sliced bread is the result of a "vast right wing conspiracy".

Hopefully you at least recognize that politics is a game and not related to actual governance.

(Sarcasm)

[jonmac511]

47. unfortunately

I have a hard time comparing politics and actual governance because of a severe shortage of examples of the latter.

TBH, I can't believe how much of a game mentality this primary season has turned in to. It's like the good of the country has taken a backseat to a certain "team" winning. This is the deepest I've delved into the nominating process but it has been extremely eye opening, to say the least.

[Raine1967]

29. Breitbart, REALLY?

This is getting ridiculous.

Breitbart is allowed to stand here on DU in order to attack our nearly presumptive nominee.

I cannot wait until this primary is over.

[840high]

30. That's your defense?

[Raine1967]

31. No, that's my statement.

I have nothing to defend.

Please continue.

[Barack_America]

32. Good God, it's a deposition.

There are images of the direct quotations from the official deposition in the article.

Don't blame me that the "liberal" media is still rocking back-and-forth in a corner, pretending this isn't happening.

[Raine1967]

34. you used a RW source.

I am not blaming you of anything. I am calling out your source.

If you choose to trust the RW media, that is all on you.

If you are angry at the liberal media for and I quote "is still rocking back-and-forth in a corner, pretending this isn't happening." that is all on you for using a RW source to further your agenda.

Do you really trust Breitbart?

Really?

The thing is as I am writing this, I am getting the feeling you don't trust the Dems, don't trust the left wing and certainly don't trust print media.

You appear to believe that Breitbart is telling you a truth.

[Barack_America]

35. Yes, I don't believe Breitbart altered the deposition..

...took a picture of that deposition, and then passed it off as the authentic, legally filed, deposition.

When it comes to unnamed sources or even named sources, I do not believe them, but when it comes to images of legal documents, I don't think they'd go that far to fabricate that.

Have you seen any articles quoting Lukens as claiming this is not his deposition?

[emulatorloo]

53. Then why not find another source, rather than send site traffic to Breitbart.

You're helping them to make money. Why support those liars financially?

[Barack_America]

56. Find one an post it.

I'll wait here.

[emulatorloo]

62. I'm not your research assistant. Just avoid the site that promotes James O'Keefe lie vids

you are smart enough to check your sources yourself, and watch out for outfits that oughtright lied about Occupy and used O'Keefe's lie vids to help destroy Acorn.

[Barack_America]

63. Sure, I'll restrict my sources to those of impeccable neutrality...

...when it comes to the Clintons.

That leaves??

[emulatorloo]

68. Right, that's just what I said. Don't shove words into mouth.

Don't be obtuse and don't shove words in my mouth.

Hillary Clinton is too conservative for me now as she was in 08.

There is no impeccable neutrality in any source as you well know. Nonetheless i expect we'll see mentions in NYT,WP,etc.

Breitbart is the bottom of the rightwing barrel and I've given you examples as to why.

If you choose to promote and help fiscally support Breitbart that is certainly your right.

But as you've figured out, you will get pushback @ democratic underground.

[George II]

36. Breitbart?

[BzaDem]

41. Breitbart? Really? June 7th can't come soon enough. n/t

[murielm99]

44. Breitbart. Uh huh.

It can't be said enough. This use of RW sources needs to end.

[Sancho]

46. How do you know it wasn't a plan to give false information to the Russians who were hacking the BB?

This is such CT bull shit...

No one "watching" has a clue.

[geek tragedy]

49. 16 more days of Breitbart links from Bernie supporters nt

[emulatorloo]

55. you get to read the Jonah Goldberg editorial in GD:P yesterday?

Didn't last long, but very surprised that anyone could view that pathological liar a "truth teller"

[emulatorloo]

52. TAke FIVE DAMN SECONDS and find a better source than BREITBART

Those lying sleazemechants do no deserve click traffic from DU. More clicks they get, the more $$$ they have to smear any body to the left of Atilla the Hun.

Why the fuck would we want to help those lying assholes make money?

Use the google and find a group of people who are so egregious.

[Barack_America]

54. Try this. Not a single source from the "liberal" media printed this deposition.

In light of the State IG report would you not consider this "news"? Well then, why is not a single member of "liberal" media discussing it.

There are more "vast conspiracies" out there than the RW conspiracy against the Clintons.

Obviously, I scoured other news outlets before posting this. No one else mentioned it. They'll just ignore it until they are forced to be "shocked" by the FBI findings, just like they were with the State IG report.

[emulatorloo]

57. Give it five or ten minutes.

[Barack_America]

59. 5 hours later, still nothing.

[vintx]

67. Hands up, who's surprised?

People have got to stop thinking the good-cop / bad-cop routine is reality.

[tandem5]

58. I saw her drown kittens...

just for giggles!!!!

[tblue37]

65. Did she shoot a man in Reno, just to watch him die? nt

[jillan]

60. I'm sorry I cannot rec anything from breitbart.

[Barack_America]

64. I'm not asking you to.

But if you're interested in reading the deposition, Judicial Watch and Breitbart are your only options.

That's not my fault.

Maybe we can wait for The Hill to pick it up. Is that a more respectable source for the same legal document?

[Cary]

61. Breitbart, and no shame

Spits.

[pnwmom]

69. How much time do you spend swimming in Breitbart, searching for river monsters to bring back here?

[Loki]

70. Oh for fucks sake

Breitbart? Remember to always wash your hands after using the restroom.

[Demsrule86]

72. Swimming in the Breitbart sewer

"Have You No Sense of Decency?" This was delivered during another witch hunt...mcCarthy.