Uh oh. Seems Bernie has quite a scandal on his hands with the collapse of Burlington College.

[RBInMaine]

Check this out. Seems Bernie has quite problem on his hands. Tsk tsk tsk. Um, Bernie, pressuring a bank to give a loan on behalf of his wife? Did you do it Bernie? Ran a college into the ground and now it is closing. I'd imagine some folks in VT aren't too happy.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/313932605/Toensing-Letter-to-Senator-Sanders-Re-Burlington-College-Documents

By the way, where is Jane Sanders lately? Haven't seen her on the campaign trail much.

[Cali_Democrat]

1. This doesn't look good at all....

....probably why she's gone into hiding.

[B Calm]

2. So a college that goes bankrupt SIX YEARS after she left is her fault.

[beachbum bob]

5. jane's financial mismanagement put burlington in jeopardy and why they bought her off to leave

of course....sanders campaign as burned thru millions with same mentality...btw where is jane? Uncomfortable with answering questions? Where are sanders tax returns? Tough to go at trump when you do the same

[B Calm]

14. You do know the link above is to a Right-Wing discredited lawyer? Here is a

link for you to research the source. http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/01/07/right-wing-media-cite-discredited-republican-la/207839

[RBInMaine]

27. So you agree Hillary hasn't committee any crimes over this email nonsense, right?

[B Calm]

31. So you admit that you didn't research the source?

[Bohunk68]

84. +1

[merrily]

54. Why on earth would anyone agree to that? The investigation is not even finished.

[beachbum bob]

42. I'm not talking about the link I am talking why jane sanders and bernie sanders refusing to answer

questions about Jane's involvement in the financial mess at Burlington and why she were bought off to leave. There is NO question that Jane ran Burlington and her rule she put the college at risk with poor strategies. What are they hiding? Why is Jane hiding?

While we are talking about that, why haven't sanders released their tax returns, bernie been demanding trump to do it. SO what are they hiding?

For a campaign thats suppose to be transparency, open and honest, the sanders are hiding a lot... Its hard to demand virtue of others if you yourself wont do it. One reason I find the sanders to be fake

[B Calm]

46. So when are they arresting her? This is nothing but a manufactured decoy to Hillarys scandal.

[dsc]

68. can you please link one time, just one will do

where you made this complaint in a thread where Hillary was trashed by such a source. BTW you are right we shouldn't listen to right wing sources, I just am checking to see if you believe this all the time or only when it is Bernie being trashed by them.

[Duval]

78. Thanks, B Calm.

Big Sigh! Some will do anything, it seems.

[left-of-center2012]

15. Alert bait?

Hateful and disruptive, you are

[B Calm]

20. They know better, this was all discredited yesterday.

[beachbum bob]

49. the link maybe an issue but the facts that Jane ran burlington college is still a fact and the fact

jane did things that put burlington college in financial difficulty is still a fact and the fact that Jand and Bernie refuse to talk about it is still a fact...


Transparency with the sanders??? Don't think so...he can set himself as the moral compass and he himself fails to live up to it. If there are simple answers why not give them. If jane's malfeasance caused the mess, take responsibility. If sanders tax returns are covering up something, take responsibility. You have no business proclaiming your infallibility while hiding and being silent

[yallerdawg]

80. How about "Washington Post"?

The Daily 202: Failure of Burlington College is a big problem for Bernie and Jane Sanders

THE BIG IDEA: Burlington College is feeling the burn.

Bernie Sanders is huge on college campuses—or yuuuuge, as he likes to say—but the small private school in Vermont that his wife, Jane, ran for seven years announced yesterday that it will shutter because of “the crushing weight” of debt incurred under her leadership.

Burlington College said its financial troubles are connected to Mrs. Sanders’s 2010 purchase of 32 acres of lakefront property, part of a botched expansion plan. The college was placed on academic probation in 2014 by its accrediting agency and it faced cash flow problems due to the imminent loss of a line of credit, The Post’s Nick Anderson reports. To survive, the school has tried to sell land but it was not enough to remain solvent.

Jane Sanders was president from 2004 until 2011, when she stepped down amid an apparent dispute with the college’s board. She left with a $200,000 severance package.

First, Bernie and Jane were insufficiently vetted by the mainstream media. Many reporters have passed on writing up opposition research hits about the Vermont senator, or focusing on the problems at the college, because they did not believe he ever had any realistic chance of being the nominee. The Clintons, owing to their status as the front-runners and former occupants of the White House, have continued to command a more intense level of scrutiny.

Read the rest at: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/05/17/daily-202-failure-of-burlington-college-is-a-big-problem-for-bernie-and-jane-sanders/573a388c981b92a22d837b46/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na--

[RBInMaine]

24. Oh yes, and the endless Hillary Haters are perfect angels, right?

[QC]

74. You used to be quite the "Hillary Hater" yourself, as I recall.

So now she's fear-mongering. But I'm not surprised. Why would anyone be surprised by this? She's already proven that she's frustrated, desperate, and willing to try nearly ANYTHING to win what she thinks is her birthright. Kudos to Obama for hitting back soon in his press conference, and he should cut a counter-ad making the point he did in his press conference rebuttal immediately.

TIRED SAME OLD SAME OLD RHETORIC ABOUT "just giving speeches" etc. Get a new stump speech Hilly.

SLICK HILLY the "born again working class fighter" who is in bed with PACs, lobbyists, WalMart, Rose Law Firm, and will say or do ANYTHING for a vote.

Hillary and Bill ALWAYS go negative when they are behind. Hillary is frustrated and once again taking the low road.

[B Calm]

85. OMG, that is hilarious! THANK YOU, omg the hypocrisy!!

[QC]

86. Some people seem to think the Internet gets wiped clean every morning,

[B Calm]

87. Gotta Bookmark that post! I'm still LOL.

[QC]

97. There's some good stuff in the archives.

Some of those who now believe that HRC is a goddess walking among us trashed her as bad as any freeper ever dreamed of just a few short years ago.

[merrily]

34. LINK?

[yallerdawg]

83. We need this resolved! Trump - just sayin'!

[merrily]

96. THAT's your response to my asking someone for a link to support claims that

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Jane mismanaged the college and had to be bought off to leave?

By any remote chance, does ANYone at DU know how the real world operates?

Jane is an educator, not a financial person. She was hired as President of this college because she had done a good job as acting head of another Vermont college. The Catholic Church had to raise money fast to pay settlements of lawsuits from abuse victims. It put a chunk of land up for sale for a great price and offered to take back part of the mortgage. One source speculates that it was even zero interest for the first two years. A board of directors of Jane's college of about 14 members, including financial experts, approved a property acquisition on what seem to have been great terms because they thought the extra land would attract more students. There is no way in hell this was Jane's call and not the call of the entire board.

Is there ANY indication that this was even her idea as opposed to an offer the Catholic Church brought to the college, or something another board member raised? Even if it was her idea when she saw the property for sale, so what? Many colleges have done the same, for the same reasons. As President at the time, Jane, OF COURSE, would have been the one to implement it, to get a loan, to sign papers, but the call was that of the board of directors. She is getting scapegoated solely because her husband is in public life.


A President of a PRIVATE college got a one time severance package of $200,000 in 2011? Is that what you need resolved? What's to resolve? Presidents of colleges who leave get severance packages all the time. Often, it's negotiated when they're being hired or when they are leaving. Here's one, a former state senator, who, in 2003, got a million dollar package from a PUBLIC university who had to leave his post because he refused to cooperate with a federal investigation trying to find his gang boss murdering brother, who was literally Public Enemy No. 1 until Ben Laden knocked him out of the No.1 spot. http://articles.latimes.com/2003/aug/07/nation/na-bulger7

Jane left the college ONE year after the loan was taken. Contrary to the post for which I requested a link, NO ONE knows why she left. In 2014, three years after Jane left, the accreditation people put the college on a two year watch. The person who was President in 2015 was forced to resign by student protests. We don't seem to know why because hit pieces on Jane don't mention that. One year later, five years after Jane left, the college is down 75 students and THAT's also her fault? How? What was the board of directors doing about paying the loan (or selling the property sooner) or raising enrollment during the five years just before it closed?

But all this was already discussed on DU.


Meanwhile, six years after the loan was made and five years after Jane left the college, a GOP state official alleges that some anonymous person told him that Sanders told the person handling the loan to get the loan done? OMIGOD. Sanders told a loan officer to do his job. Someone get me smelling salts STAT!

Not a single allegation that the board did not approve the acquisition or the loan. Not a single allegation that either of the Sanders profited personally from this. Not a single allegation that Sanders got better terms for the college from the bank because his wife was there. Not a single allegation that a crime was committed.

Shall we discuss every thing Dick Morris alleged about Hillary, too?

Sorry, exactly what is it you think you need resolved again? And why?

[B Calm]

43. Link?

[RBInMaine]

11. Yes, because she was in charge when the financial mismanagement happened resulting in this.

[merrily]

36. False. The board was in charge and the entire board approved the loan. Moreover, she left FIVE YEARS

before the college went out of business. As far as Bernie allegedly pressuring the bank, the allegation from a GOP Vermont state official is that Bernie told someone to (gasp) get the loan done.

Are you prepared to defend Hillary against accusations from every minor state GOP official?

[CrowCityDem]

37. Yes, since they directly cited debt from her loan/expansion as the reason they went under.

[B Calm]

41. Grasping for a straw to deflect Hillary's weak on National Security scandal. You guys/gals

are so transparent on what you are doing.

[merrily]

47. BINGO!

[CrowCityDem]

61. Hillary's irrelevant to this topic. This is about Jane bankrupting a college. That's a big deal.

[Duval]

81. It's so obvious!

[OwlinAZ]

58. Same old deceit and slander from the

Hillary folks

[TwilightZone]

70. The college indicated in their press release that the loan she secured is the primary reason

Try to keep up.

[B Calm]

71. Link?

to her arrest?

[DrDan]

3. can't be true . . . he walks on water . . . read it right here so it must be true

[merrily]

50. LINK? If you are going to pull stuff out of your ear, at least make up something semi-plausible.

[OwlinAZ]

59. He is an honest man.

Or have you forgotten what honor and integrity are?

[MaeScott]

4. Personal server designed to evade FOI ....that is the topic this week, please keep up txbai

[Demsrule86]

6. Right

More BS from BSSER'S and Republicans.

[99Forever]

7. Bullshit.

How's that State Dept. IG report goin' for you? The multiple FBI investigations?

[RBInMaine]

9. No, you're the bullshitter. IG report said little new, and she didn't ruin a college.

The IG reported "systemic" problems that went on for years across administrations. Try actually reading the report.

Jane Sanders, possibly with Bernie's help, ruined a college. No comparison.

[99Forever]

18. More lying bullshit.

Up the Denial River, are you?

[PaulaFarrell]

79. but shr did ruin a country or two n/t

[Yurovsky]

16. Anyone who's ever cornered a rat recognizes this behavior...

I imagine our "friends" in the corporate wing of the Party will soon be informing us that it was Bernie on the grassy knoll in Dallas and Bernie, not Bruno Hauptmanm, who kidnapped the Lindbergh baby...

[99Forever]

19. Yep.

This clown is the perfect example of that.

[RBInMaine]

23. The "clowns" are those who can't do math and spout insanity about "rigged" elections night and day.

[99Forever]

30. Keep digging...

... you'll get out of that hole someday.

[RBInMaine]

44. The only hole is the hole Bernie is in both in votes and pledged delegates. And he won't get out.

[99Forever]

51. Cognitive dissonance is a thing.

Not a good thing, but a thing.

Leave it to Hillary to snatch complete and utter defeat and total humiliation out of the jaws of an easy victory. WTG, HRH.

[hobbit709]

8. I guess this is your new shtick since red baiting didn't work?

[RBInMaine]

10. I didn't "red bait." I said the R's would. Next, you have NO refutation, only an attack. Typical.

Try reading the letter in the link. Try researching something. Try "Berning" a calorie or two.

[hobbit709]

25. Res ipsa loquitur

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511385082
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511260462
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511243160

And I only went back to Jan.

[B Calm]

35. Damning

[RBInMaine]

39. Let me explain the MEANING of what I have said with the "socialist" point:

As a self-declared "socialist" Bernie has placed himself so far to the left on the political spectrum that the R's, in a GE, will SLAM him ENDLESSLY calling him not just a socialist but a COMMMUNIST.

The general population simply does not want a "socialist" president. They simply won't accept it. We are not a European socialist country.

Now those are just plain facts. That isn't "red baiting." That is just political reality in the United States.

The fact is Bernie WOULD be "red baited" by the R's BIGTIME in a general election, which makes him un-electable.

And if you also have read my messages, I have said time and again that I AGREE with Bernie's goals on most issues and many of his sentiments around the need for political and economic reform.

Now, do you get it?

And do you actually think the R's won't tear Bernie to shreds over this?

[blackspade]

57. Backpedal, backpedal, backpedal.

[Zen Democrat]

65. The Rs have been calling Obama a Communist for 8 years. They have neutered their attack words.

[B Calm]

93. I like what you said in post 74, that was a real eye opener!

[vintx]

66. lol

Nicely done.

[Autumn]

12. Six years later dude.

[left-of-center2012]

13. This will get the FBI off Hillary !!!!!!!

Not !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RBInMaine]

22. Oh Christ. Enough of this "FBI Is After Hillary" silly RIGHT WING bullshit.

[hobbit709]

33. I thought the Justice Dept. is under the direction of the WH, so how did the RW start

an FBI investigation?

[RBInMaine]

48. That the "FBI is AFTER Hillary" is not true and a right wing meme. Good grief.

Sorry, but your silly corporate media BERNED OUT email NON-SCANDAL is load of pathetic horseshit.

[hobbit709]

56. So why do YOU keep bringing it up?

You keep bringing up crap and trying to deny you are doing so just to keep stirring.
You've done more to bring up these attacks than any "supporter" you claim to be would be doing.

[livetohike]

17. Fraud runs in the family. The perfect couple. n/t

[99Forever]

55. Yes it does. The Clinton family.

Seems genetic.

[Bleacher Creature]

62. Genetic? Seriously?

Really?

[saltpoint]

21. I appreciate your private emails asking

for more video footage of hippo attacks.

Pleased to accommodate your request.

Pumpkins, no less!

[cantbeserious]

26. Reliably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme 17

eom

[RBInMaine]

29. And who has been helping Trump by constantly parroting all the "Email!" bullshit?

[cantbeserious]

32. HRC IS To Blame For Her Email Problems - Not Trump - HRC Has Displayed Bad Judgment Her Whole Life

What more could one expect from a Goldwater Girl - Once a conservative - Always a conservative.

[RBInMaine]

45. Oh what ridiculous nonsense. "Goldwater girl"? My goodness. Please go back to your sandbox.

[cantbeserious]

53. Sunshine Is The Best Disinfectant - One Might Consider Trying It Someday

eom

[saltpoint]

38. The Sanders group here on DU snuck into

Hillary's office at State and reconfigured her system to create the email problem later in advance of the primary season.

It was really fun. We bought dark clothes and ski masks and everything.

[enid602]

28. jane

Yes, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?

[mikeysnot]

40. ^^

[merrily]

52. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2073250

[Nye Bevan]

60. If Bernie was nominated it would be hard for him to attack Trump University.

Trump would be all over the Burlington collapse and Jill's $200,000 severance package.

[Gothmog]

63. Trump would have fun using this if Sanders was the nominee

[Doctor_J]

64. Bigger than lying about conducting state department business on an unsecured server?

Unlikely

[Eric J in MN]

67. Did you pressure a bank?

Probably not, but someone could accuse you of pressuring a bank without evidence.

[forjusticethunders]

69. The """""Honorable"""" Bernie Sanders

l o l

[workinclasszero]

72. Wow this is serious

Doesn't look good. And where are the tax returns Bernie and Jane???

[Bohunk68]

89. where's all the Goldman-Sachs transcripts? HMMMM

[workinclasszero]

91. No obligation to disclose those

Tax returns and running a college into the ground is a whole nother ballgame.

[Miles Archer]

73. Uh oh. Tsk tsk tsk. Um...by the way...

...thank Christ for DU's "Ignore" feature.

Well, Christ and the DU admins.

But mostly thank Christ.

Bye now.

[left-of-center2012]

75. How 'bout full disclosure on Clinton & Sanders spouses

Jane Sanders is looking pretty good right now.

[imari362]

82. ..........

[HassleCat]

76. Ooooo! Scandal! Call the National Enquirer! (eom)

[Live and Learn]

77. Only on DU. nt

[LaydeeBug]

88. And the pressure the big banks for contribution no less. wow. nt

[Bohunk68]

90. $225,00 per speech that we have not seen the transcripts of.

Course, those weren't contributions, were they?

[cliffordu]

92. Look! A squirrel!!!

[CanadaexPat]

94. I can't believe she took $16.5M from a for-profit

college. Oh, wait...that was Bill.

[AgingAmerican]

98. No, he doesn't