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Bob-o the Clown

(35 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:26 AM May 2016

Clinton's security clearance access in danger? IG report clearly states she violated the policy.

I know the Presidential Daily Briefing is considered classified as high as TS/SCI. If Clinton does not have that kind of clearance after her violations are already made public, how can she be able to do her duties as the President of the United States?

Clearances are all about trust. It is very clear to me that America doesn't trust Clinton (or Trump) by the recent polls.

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Clinton's security clearance access in danger? IG report clearly states she violated the policy. (Original Post) Bob-o the Clown May 2016 OP
President's enjoy security clearance priviledges by definition. Snowden had security clearance and Trust Buster May 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #3
I know you are new here, but calling other poster's liars isn't really cool. emulatorloo May 2016 #4
I respect your response emulatorloo. Trust Buster May 2016 #7
The president does automatically get all clearance, since he is the ultimate power over them. braddy May 2016 #5
While I do agree there has been some heads of the CIA who are on record as to keeping things from NWCorona May 2016 #6
Anyone can try to conceal information, but that is another matter. braddy May 2016 #8
That's the thing. JFK asked the CIA for reports on multiple things only to be denied. NWCorona May 2016 #10
That doesn't work since he controls the CIA and can fire them or walk into their vaults. braddy May 2016 #11
I'm only saying what is known in the public record. Ideally I agree with you NWCorona May 2016 #12
Where is that public record of a president being forbidden to see the information that he owns? braddy May 2016 #15
The president "owns" the information? That's new to me. NWCorona May 2016 #17
Get real, I meant figuratively during his reign as the ultimate decider on clearances and security. braddy May 2016 #18
Even figuratively he doesn't own it. NWCorona May 2016 #20
Welcome to DU emulatorloo May 2016 #2
If you're not a member of the Oligrachy Ferd Berfel May 2016 #9
Nope. The President has full access, by dint of being President. MineralMan May 2016 #13
Let's step back here. Wellstone ruled May 2016 #14
Nixon was refused a clearance when he was in the Navy...but he had one in his executive roles. HereSince1628 May 2016 #16
Do you have a source for that? Nixon was a LT. Commander by Oct 1945 and retired as a full Commander braddy May 2016 #19
I don't. It's something that I learned in the aftermath of Watergate, HereSince1628 May 2016 #21
During the time period, Quakers were always considered suspect. MohRokTah May 2016 #22
Not only did he reach a high rank, he had pretty important jobs in WWII. braddy May 2016 #23
The only thing that's "clear" in this OP is the level of misinformation, lazy procon May 2016 #24
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
1. President's enjoy security clearance priviledges by definition. Snowden had security clearance and
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:28 AM
May 2016

he worked for a contractor. Quit embarrassing yourself.

Response to Trust Buster (Reply #1)

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
6. While I do agree there has been some heads of the CIA who are on record as to keeping things from
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:41 AM
May 2016

sitting presidents.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
8. Anyone can try to conceal information, but that is another matter.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:46 AM
May 2016

The President is the ultimate authority on clearances and security as the Chief of the Executive branch.

If he wants to see something, then he can order it up.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
12. I'm only saying what is known in the public record. Ideally I agree with you
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:53 AM
May 2016

But practice is something different. I can guarantee you that if Trump wins all kinds of things will be kept from him.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
18. Get real, I meant figuratively during his reign as the ultimate decider on clearances and security.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:01 AM
May 2016

How much time are you going to waste with these meaningless posts?

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
20. Even figuratively he doesn't own it.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:08 AM
May 2016

The fact is that things are kept secret routinely. Look at Iran contra with Carter. The bay of pigs and JFK. NSA spying with Obama

emulatorloo

(46,151 posts)
2. Welcome to DU
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:29 AM
May 2016

Good to have you.

Clinton's security clearance is not in danger currently.


I am waiting for the FBI report. Until then everything is spin and speculation.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
9. If you're not a member of the Oligrachy
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:47 AM
May 2016

and loose your security clearance for these reasons - can you get it back - ever?

Obviously the Oligarchy operates under different laws than the rest of us - I was just curious


MineralMan

(150,894 posts)
13. Nope. The President has full access, by dint of being President.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:53 AM
May 2016

Period. But, Presidents get summaries of classified information. They don't see original materials or details on sources, etc. They don't need that information, and at the highest security levels, "need to know" applies in all cases. The President gets the information after analysis that is needed for his or her responsibilities. but has full access to any classification of material.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
14. Let's step back here.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:54 AM
May 2016

Not a Clinton supporter,and this issue has been blown up way out of proportion. Question should be,who started this,what was their agenda,who is financing this ruse,and why didn't the previous administration become suspect with Karl Rove and Scooter Libby 's missing 20 million E-Mails on some private Server in Tennessee. That is the real story,this is nothing more than some Political Witch hunt and let's find and expose these folks and put names to faces. Sure smells like the Arkansas Project.

Let's get back to the peoples issues,if you can not indite Bush and Cheney's crap,then a president has been established and we have to move on.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
16. Nixon was refused a clearance when he was in the Navy...but he had one in his executive roles.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:57 AM
May 2016

Beyond the irony of it, don't expect her to be denied as she is given daily briefings while campaigning in the GE

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
19. Do you have a source for that? Nixon was a LT. Commander by Oct 1945 and retired as a full Commander
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:07 AM
May 2016

in the Navy Reserves.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
21. I don't. It's something that I learned in the aftermath of Watergate,
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:11 AM
May 2016

and it may have pertained to an attempt in WWII to get a clearance.

At the time, the stuff I was reading was mostly in Time and The Washington Post.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
22. During the time period, Quakers were always considered suspect.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:14 AM
May 2016

Quakers, by their pacifistic nature, were rarely given the highest level security clearances during that time period. Most served in support roles as opposed to combat roles, too.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
23. Not only did he reach a high rank, he had pretty important jobs in WWII.
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:17 AM
May 2016

Do you have a source for Quaker being a reason to not get security clearances?

Why would a Quaker volunteer be seen as likely to spy?

procon

(15,805 posts)
24. The only thing that's "clear" in this OP is the level of misinformation, lazy
Sun May 29, 2016, 11:20 AM
May 2016

conjectures and half baked speculations that are better suited for creative fiction stories than any well reasoned political commentary. The lack of knowledge and the errors in deductive reasoning only serves as a vehicle to frame the OPs predetermined choice.

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