Authoritarian Hillary supporters think they can make Bernie supporters heel...

[AZ Progressive]

They can't seem to figure out any other way to get us to support Hillary than to bully us and guilt us and force us into submission. That at the very least demonstrates poor emotional intelligence and creativity, as well as lack of emotional control.

[AgingAmerican]

1. In a year I have not seen a Hillary supporter talk about issues

In any substantive way to entice Sanders supporters to vote for her.

Not a single one. I have seen LOTS of the opposite, dissuasive rhetoric.

Hillary supporters are to GOTV as Garlic is to Vampires.

[SheilaT]

6. I know. I feel like this place is a bizarro world.

They simply repeat a few things over and over: The Math! 3 million more votes! Vetted!

None of which are compelling reasons to support her.

[potone]

14. Neither have I.

I made repeated attempts to discuss issues with her supporters on this site, but they simply won't engage. All they do is attack Bernie and his supporters with the assertion that Hillary is more electable, and Saunders won't be able to get his agenda passed. No one ever says that her policies are actually better, which is a very odd thing in a primary season.

I am getting increasingly worried about the possibility that Hillary's campaign could crash before the GE. If that happens and we get Trump as president the consequences will be catastrophic.

[grasswire]

29. if that happens, Trump will not prevail.

Because if that happens after she is the nominee, she will be forced to step aside, and the powers that be will bring in a substitute. Likely Biden. That will be unfair to the Sanders voters, terribly. But it will at least save us from Trump, as Biden would beat him like a drum.

[Marr]

36. Oh, I don't think Biden would have a snowball's chance in Hell in that scenario.

Same goes for anyone else perceived to be a party insider, or affiliated with Hillary. And anyone selected would no doubt, rightfully, be viewed as such. They'd be tainted by the scandal as much as Hillary would be; the crook's pal stepping in to replace her because she was caught.

[AntiBank]

17. +10000, they never do compare/contrast on the issues cuz she comes up far to the right on most

She is a neoliberal, banker friendly war hawk. No one can deny that.

[QC]

28. Talking issues is very, very dangerous in a case like this,

because the candidate's positions on those issues change so frequently that one could easily end up publicly disagreeing with The Leader.

It's safer to follow the campaign's lead and stick to slander and tone policing.

[deathrind]

31. 👆 This.

I agree with your reply. Try to talk about issues with that support group and most of the response is "she won, deal with it" or "3000000 votes" or "math" "glass ceiling" or some such other nonsense but nothing substantive in terms of actual policy issues / position.

[WhiteTara]

2. You'll do as you choose

[CrowCityDem]

3. And what is Bernie doing for unity?

[hrmjustin]

4. Well i waved my magic wand and it didn't work.

Shucks!

[hack89]

5. Ignoring you makes more sense

I learned that raising toddlers.

[AZ Progressive]

8. I'm giving feedback

Shouldn't you appreciate it?

[hack89]

12. No you are not

It is the petulant whining of an entitled Bernie suporter unable to accept that most Dems have rejected Bernie.

You are a part of the bitter dead enders that will never accept that Hillary won. So ignoring you makes perfect sense.

[AZ Progressive]

20. Because you know it all...

[hack89]

23. I understand math. And democracy. nt

[bjo59]

33. Are you saying that the the statement starting this thread is incorrect?

[hack89]

39. Bernie really attracts the smart ones, doesn't he?

didn't take you long at all to figure things out.

[Henhouse]

9. Amen....works like a charm...nt

[HereSince1628]

13. I trust the kids came away without developmental psych problems.

[hack89]

15. Very successful

More importantly they are emotionally well balanced and have learned how to accept failure and disagreement gracefully.

[HereSince1628]

16. glad to hear that.

[AZ Progressive]

19. You don't sound like an American...

An American is persistent and fights as hard as possible. If any entrepreneur had your thinking they would never be successful.

[hack89]

21. An American is realistic and pragmatic

Entrepreneurs who continue after they know they have failed merely look foolish and out of touch with reality.

[Henhouse]

7. Authoritarian?...I'm not your Mom...do what you want...nt

[oberliner]

10. Or point to the fact that she has more pledged delegates

Which ought to count for something.

[beachbumbob]

11. To each there own...but don't think for one second you are

Not responsible for the outcome...

[Thinkingabout]

18. Which candidate had FICA tax restart on wages of $250,000 at the beginning of the campaign?

Hillary. Who migrated to her position on SS, Sanders did.

[farleftlib]

22. My favorite one is: "But Bernie says he wants you to support her. You have to"

I've never been as excited about a candidate (well, Dennis Kucinich too) but that doesn't mean I'm
going to follow his lead throwing support behind HRC. If he does that he's doing it so he can survive
in the Senate and because he's a man of his word. I just hope he doesn't hand her any money but
I seriously doubt that will happen.

He has zero power or influence over my decision making.

[geek tragedy]

24. Free country, you can vote for Jill Stein or Donald Trump if you want.

But your decisions are not entitled to respect, nor are you immune to being judged based on what you say and do.

[Downwinder]

25. Seems they have proved your thesis.

[bjo59]

34. Yes, the truth of the thesis is once again illustrated.

[NorthCarolina]

26. There is no way, this anti-establishment movement will not end even if Hillary is coronated by

the establishment. That day will however mark the beginning of the end of the Democratic Party.

[grasswire]

30. this nt

[AZ Progressive]

37. That will only motivate Bernie supporters to kick out as many establishment Dems in 2018

[annavictorious]

48. There is nothing quite as establishment

as 26 years on a comfortable back bench.

[treestar]

27. Why do you engage in

The struggle with Hillary supporters more than consider what is in your own interests to do ?

[Joob]

32. Because that's Democracy.

[MineralMan]

35. How could anyone make you vote in any way

other than the way you want? Think about the election and do as you think best. I'm a Hillary supporter and that's my advice. Think, then vote.

[Tarc]

38. The majority of Bernie supporters will already be voting for her in the fall

no courting is necessary.

The Bernie or Busters are another matter entirely, and a statistically irrelevant one at that.

[840high]

40. Don't bet on it.

[Tarc]

61. Signed, sealed, and delivered, sport

[AZ Progressive]

42. Then why are you wasting your time on GDP?

Your not going to get anymore people to vote for Hillary.

[athena]

43. Perhaps for the same reason you are?

You are not going to get anyone to vote for Bernie, either.

[AZ Progressive]

45. If you think that's why I'm here then you are not that bright

I can't believe you can be that clueless.

[athena]

46. What makes you think you know what Tarc is here for?

It's funny that you think you have the authority to declare what people's motives are without knowing anything about them, and yet you get upset when someone else points out the symmetry of your own situation.

By the way, I love it when Bernie supporters resort to personal attacks. It shows that they don't have any logical points to make and are incapable of being civil.

Please proceed.

[AZ Progressive]

47. Me getting upset? This is sheer entertainment

Anyway, here's a clue as to why I'm here:

[athena]

49. You mean you're here to insult other people

and get pleasure out of that? Is that what you mean? I'm not sure why you think that's something to brag about.

Please continue to proceed.

[AZ Progressive]

50. You obviously didn't see the rest of my post

[AZ Progressive]

52. And BTW, Hillary supporters seem to relish being bullies

Don't get sanctimonious on me.

[athena]

58. Disagreeing with someone is not being a bully. Insulting them is.

This forum is full of Bernie supporters attacking Hillary supporters with ridicule and insults. Just look at your own posts.

[AZ Progressive]

59. Your seriously deluded if you don't believe Hillary supporters are being bullies

The constant negative propaganda and attacking Bernie supporters, calling them pro-Trump and a whole bunch of other things is not being a bully? Bullshit. You know what you are doing.

"Heel, damnit!" and trying to force people into accepting your point of view only deserves ridicule and scorn.

[AZ Progressive]

60. Also, you make the bed you lie in

Don't act like you guys don't deserve it.

[Tarc]

62. First off, that'd be "you're"

Second, one of your comrades already tried that angle tonight; the tangent begins here.

[Hydra]

41. *woof*

I don't do roll over or play dead though.

[annavictorious]

44. Sanders supporters need to do what they think is right.

Clinton supporters faced the same questions in 2008. Some went PUMA, some went Tea Party, and some went Obama. You need to follow your moral compass wherever it leads you.

What I find ironic, however, is that many Hillary supporters wanted the super delegate system ended after the 2008 election cycle, but we were told that we were just bitter losers. Maybe the DNC will listen this time around.

The real reform that I would like to see is a single national primary day open to all registered voters regardless of party affiliation. I think this would go a long way to reducing the influence of money in the races. In addition the news channels would be less able to impact the primaries with their craven strategies to increase ratings.

[NCTraveler]

51. Do you consider me to be a "Authoritarian Hillary supporter"?

Well done driving it home with emotional instability.

[AZ Progressive]

54. Should I expect anything better from Moderate Republicans?

[NCTraveler]

55. I think you should read the op.

Mainly the big finish.

[AZ Progressive]

56. Speaking of emotional instability

Hillary supporters have shown that quite often here.

[NCTraveler]

57. It's a cornerstone of our campaign. Nt

[oldandhappy]

53. I always wonder -- did that work with their kids?? giggle