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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
Sun May 29, 2016, 07:16 PM May 2016

90% of my CA phonebank respondents voted for Hillary or planned to.

Surprise! If you call from a candidate's phone bank you get targeted lists of numbers. Most numbers I called yesterday didn't go through (changed, fax noise, message, no answer, church answering machine in one case). Most calls that went through went to people who'd already voted for Hillary by mail or planned to at the polls June 7. One was a Bernie supporter (I think--the connection wasn't terribly clear).

I was at Woodland Hills Hillary for America from about 5-8 pm. The call center was pretty busy when I got there, not so busy when I left. It's open every day from 9-9. Lots of enthusiasm in evidence. To find a local call center or make calls from home using your cell phone:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/grassroots/make-calls/

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pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
1. At Least Be Original
Sun May 29, 2016, 07:18 PM
May 2016

I saw a thread yesterday from a Bernie supporter who was saying the same thing. Can't you guys at least be original?

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
3. Incidentally the entire ~3 hours I was there no one breathed a word about emails
Sun May 29, 2016, 07:40 PM
May 2016

except me. I gently tossed it into a conversation with one of the call center supervisors but she either didn't hear it or didn't follow up on it.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
5. Most voters have more important things to worry about.
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:11 PM
May 2016

The media and political junkies obsess over it, but the average voter is worried about keeping their kids fed and keeping a roof over their heads. Income equality, healthcare, education, reproductive rights, education, jobs.....

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
6. I overheard one conversation about a rap song at a Bernie rally with obscene lyrics
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:19 PM
May 2016

It sounded like a Twitter/Facebook controversy but I haven't come across anything so let's call it a rumor. But what it illustrates is that there are a lot of conversations going on in a lot of media and the email thing is a low stakes Bemghazi fail that's barely surviving on life support.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
7. It turned out to be a "social experiment" created by a Sanders supporter.
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:25 PM
May 2016

He thought it would be cool to splice in the rap tune. It made the rounds. Sanders supporters called it a dirty trick. A long-time Sanders supporter eventually admitted he did it and claimed it was some kind of social experiment. Sanders supporters insist that he's a Brock infiltrator, even though he's been a Sanders fan for months, if not longer.

Some of us concluded that he was trying to make Sanders look hip and failed miserably.

Sorry, I digress. Yes, your point about the whole thing is accurate. Unless there's a major development, it'll be like everything else and be in and out in a few news cycles. For most, it's the last thing on their minds.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
8. Interesting. Did it actually get played at any rallies?
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:28 PM
May 2016

I'm surprised it hasn't turned up here or maybe I just missed it . . . anyway thanks for the details!

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
9. Nope, he spliced the song in after the fact and posted it on YouTube.
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:31 PM
May 2016

It made the rounds online the past couple days and had a brief life on DU until it was determined that a Sanders supporter had created it, solving the mystery.

The update at the top of this page is a pretty good synopsis: http://americablog.com/2016/05/sanders-plays-kill-gays-rap-song-ca-rally.html

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
10. Thanks, okay I'll go with hoax but the updates on that page don't exactly put the thing to rest:
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:38 PM
May 2016
UPDATE: This story gets weirder and weirder. A journalist friend pointed out to me that he found some video from the Sanders campaign (via ABC), from the same event, that uses different music than the DMX song. I’m including that video below.

But things get even stranger than that. There’s live Fox News video of the same event that includes no music whatsoever. (The Fox tape goes mute at one point, but when it’s not muted there should be music, like there is on the Sanders campaign tape, and there isn’t.)

So there are three different videos of the “same” event. Now, is it possible these are different events in California on the same day, using the same actors and the same backdrop? Yes. But still, this is very strange.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
11. It's in reverse order. The top one is actually the newest.
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:44 PM
May 2016

By then, the guy had admitted that he'd done it, so the other updates weren't really relevant anymore. They were posted while the story was in motion and demonstrated that at least one of the videos was probably fake.

"UPDATE: A Sanders supporter has admitted to faking the video of Bernie Sanders arriving on stage in California earlier this week to a homophobic rap song about killing gay and trans people.

The Sanders supporter claims he made the fake video in order to intentionally trick voters as a form of “social experiment.” He issued a statement, which concluded “Congratulations, you played yourself.”

No, congratulations to you, young man. You just ticked off thousands of people online with a story that seriously hurt your candidate, and is now going to be very difficult to put back in the bottle."

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
12. Ah. Okay hoax.
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:47 PM
May 2016

I have to say the explanation sounds improbable but I'll let it go. To be honest the whole thing sounds like an episode of VEEP.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
14. lol, yep.
Sun May 29, 2016, 08:56 PM
May 2016

I think he did it just to be funny and it blew up on him. But, it demonstrates your point perfectly - the media and DU spent at least a full day's news cycle obsessing over the thing, and it means nothing to the big picture.

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