Do you really, putting your hand on the Bible, swearing on your most loved one's life, believe

[Seeinghope]

that Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong. She did not lie to the American people and that absolutely EVERYTHING that is being said about her is just right wing propaganda?

[Hoyt]

1. I believe it just doesn't matter. She was not trying to compromise USA, and didn't, and Berners are

just pathetically desperate for a way forward, even if it does compromise the USA by helping GOPers.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. State has a different view from you

and the FBI might as well, and they are part Berners right? Logic, not your strong suit.

[Alex4Martinez]

9. To some, unless we were invaded or something then there's no harm-no foul.

Which is funny because last time I checked DUI doesn't require an accident or injury or intent.

Same with Hillary, she circumvented policy and procedures, exposed sensitive information in a reckless and deliberate manner.

Just as an intoxicated driver is guilty largely for the damage that could happen, so are civil servants when they act recklessly.

[Hoyt]

11. An intoxicated driver is breaking the law by driving intoxicated. Clinton did not break any law of

consequence, as the digital equivalent of jaywalking is not a serious offense . . . . . . and I'm not even sure that happened (just playing your silly game for a moment).

Just not a big deal except in desperate Berners' minds.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. hum hum, so exposiing SAP level intel is just dandy

since it was her.

With a person who had NO CLEARANCE, and remember, HIS ACCOUNT was penetrated by GUCCIFER. Who else? We will never know.

By the way, you want your party to commit suicide, by nominating a weak, not gifted politician, she used words to that effect, who now has a legal exposure? Fine by me, Here is the loaded and cocked gun. Go ahead, commit political suicide. just do not blame the people who tried to stop you.

[Hoyt]

19. GUCCIFER? LMAO. Do you have the text of any supposedly compromised emails?

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. You think he was given a plea deal for just shit and giggles?

And in fact, he leaked more than a few...

You must also think Bryan Pagliano got immunity for shits and giggles too.

You have no fucking clue how this works, NOT ONE.

[Hoyt]

22. Like you do. She may not even be the target of any investigation.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Actually I cover courts

and I am willing to bet on a grand jury that has already been empaneled.

You keep hoping, oh and please careful with the gun. It is loaded, and cocked. If you guys want to commit political suicide, by all means, go ahead... Just don't blame the people who tried to warn you for months now, almost a year.

[Hoyt]

25. Doesn't matter if you are a judge -- you hate Clinton, so you need to recuse yourself.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. argle bargle, that is your response

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predictable and infantile, But I am serious, your fucking party wants to commit suicide, go fucking right ahead, When you help elect Trump... don't blame the people who tried to warn you. Historians will not be hind and I will hold you, and the rest of the sycophants, responsible.

Gun is on the table, It is loaded, go ahead.

And for the record, I do not hate a person I do not know from shinola... but to a sycophant that makes no sense.

Go ahead, gun is there. Use it or don't, not my issue at this point.

What is my issue is that you guys will have to choose, party, country... I expect you in particular to chose party.

[Fawke Em]

59. I covered courts for 13 years - this is EXACTLY what it looks like.

Of course, I support Bernie, so my years of covering law and now my 10 years working in InfoSec content management mean nothing.

[SusanCalvin]

31. Mishandling classified material is quite equivalent.

Not saying she did or didn't. Just saying that regular people are in big trouble if they do, regardless of intentions.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. Exactly

[highprincipleswork]

6. Really. You think, for instance, the FBI is listening to us? No, we're just pointing out a

potential liability, what seems to many of us as a very big potential liability and a likely one and one that is a liability whether or not she is actually indicted.

[Seeinghope]

7. That was not the question. Your not inside of her head. I am asking you if YOU believe that she

did not lie to the American people and would you swear that you TOTALLY BELIEVE her while putting your hand on the Bible and swearing on your loved ones life?

[inchhigh]

29. I believe she'd sell the US out in a heartbeat

for about $250,000. And more than likely already has.

[pangaia]

2. No.

[Mike Nelson]

4. She is over-investigated...

...most others get away with their lies. I don't think she "lies" more often than other politicians. She and all the rest use that political lawyer-ish-speak. People parse her every word and investigate every move she makes. It took around five investigations to show she did not murder Vince Foster and people still think she killed him! I think it's a combination of her being female and progressive.

[reddread]

8. "progressive" as in "Wal-Mart progressive" or?

warmonger progressive?

there clearly are different types. help me out here.
just about every progressive I know would show her the door.
not one of whom will ever mention Vince Foster, RIP.

[Seeinghope]

10. Again that was not the question

Do you really, putting your hand on the Bible, swearing on your loved one's life, believe that Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong. She did not lie to the American people and that absolutely EVERTHING that is being said about her is right winged propaganda?

[BillZBubb]

28. Wow, I don't what to say to that nonsense. "progressive"???

Holy Cow!

[Old Codger]

33. ?????

I think it's a combination of her being female and progressive


I'll agree on the female ... I am pretty sure that is actually true... Progressive is not anything that she is...

[jwirr]

40. No. And as for being over investigated. Sure but both she

and Bill have been skating on the edge since the 80s. This time I think she went too far and she is in real trouble.

By skating on the edge I mean that they have been doing anything they can to get what they want and it is both morally wrong and really bad judgement.

[onecaliberal]

5. No.

[lmbradford]

12. I absolutely believe she did wrong...

I believe she mishandled classified info knowingly. I believe she knows none of her aides had security clearances, but she let them deal in classified info. I think the Clinton Foundation laundrrs money and she does pay to play through it. I believe she obstructed justice, lied to investigators, and lied to the President. I believe people were murdered based on her handling of info, both here and abroad and i think most of our enemies now are in possesion of state secrets.


Wait and see..

Most of this is provable from what we know already.

And even when indictments come down, there will be people here denying it.

[MisterP]

26. Clinton's set up the party so she can tell you, to your face, what she wants and people deny it

[Lurks Often]

14. I would never bet my life on Hillary's honesty

Then again I wouldn't bet my life on any politician being honest.

[KingFlorez]

15. Swearing on the bible and love ones? Really?

This is almost as bad as the 700 Club.

[Seeinghope]

32. I bet I know who you support! LOL

[Seeinghope]

16. I would just love to see Hillary Clinton supporters just answer this question. Plain and simple.

[hrmjustin]

18. I would never swear to a politician's honesty.

Whether i like them or not.

I would not swear to Sanders honesty.

[seabeyond]

20. Seriously? Like back in grade school.

[Seeinghope]

36. If that is what it takes to get the Hillary Clinton supporters to answer a straight forward question

openly and honestly with it really meaning something. If I had a lie detector test, believe me I would use it because I don't believe, for one second that most of the Hillary Clinton supporters believe that she is being persecuted by anybody. I believe that most are turning a blind eye, in deep denial or just plain don't care and if there is ANY moral fibre left, go ahead and just out and out lie...like straight forward. No sarcasm, no counter accusation, no deflection, just answer and just to ratchet it up I want you to take it seriously so serious that you would swear on the Bible or any other Holy book and the life of a loved one. I want to see all of the Hillary Clinton supporters put their money where their mouth is.

[seabeyond]

39. Obviously, it was not, but a childish demand. Cross your heart, swear to god, stick a needle in

your eye.

Really? lol

[Seeinghope]

42. What would you suggest because I haven't seen a serious straight forward answer to all of

these problems surrounding her. They are always deflected by sarcasm, blaming the Republicans, attacking Sanders, totally deny deny deny, gloat that she is the winner........no real intelligent, thoughtful, logical answer backed up by facts.

The FBI investigation and the facts brought out by the FBI investigation and now the IG report deserve more than sarcasm and total denial. Is it fathomable that Hillary Clinton supporters are not even a little bit concerned that Hillary Clinton is not the upstanding person that they thought she was. It is not unfair to expect a little more forthrightness from Hillary Clinton supporters. It isn't so much about her winning as it is about the safety and functioning of our country. This isn't a game.

[seabeyond]

56. People get the choice of putting in the time and effort in answering or not. On a loved one's life?

I just cannot imagine an adult would go all out like that.

[stevenleser]

51. Your question is not a relevant one. See my #50. nt

[Tarc]

24. I'm not Christian, and wouldn't touch a bible if you paid me

But the Emailgate stuff is a tempest in a teapot. Same as Benghazi, something used by opponents for political gain rather than any actual interest or concern for the issue itself.

[Seeinghope]

37. Then your answer isn't qualified.

[Tarc]

57. lol, this is the DU bro, not biblestudy.com

My answer is quite qualified.

[JackRiddler]

60. One can "affirm" in court testimony without using a fairy tale book.

[Seeinghope]

61. Good One!

[Tal Vez]

30. I think she probably made a mistake. Apparently she acknowledges that.

I might find the issue more important if someone could describe for me any actual damage that resulted to our country as a result of the mistake. If there was no injury, then it's really not worth my time when evaluating these candidates. I assume that they've all made some mistakes. Like Senator Sanders, I'm sick and tired of hearing about the emails.

[Seeinghope]

38. That is not the question.

A straight forward answer please.

Do you really, putting your hand on the Bible, swearing on your loved one's life, believe that Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong. She did not lie to the American people and that absolutely EVERTHING that is being said about her is right winged propaganda?

[Tal Vez]

41. I'm a grownup. I've been on this earth for more than six decades

and you're seriously asking me if I think that a woman roughly my age has gone through life without ever doing anything wrong or without lying? Listen, I don't have to know any of the things that she has done wrong to know that she has done many things wrong in her life and that she's told many lies in her life. I assume that I'm communicating with other grownups here.

My question has to do with this email thing. It might be worth my consideration if someone could show me that some significant actual damage has been caused to this country or to some person by some mistake that she's made. But, whenever I ask for that I get nothing specific.

I know before I begin that every one of these human beings who are running for president this year have made mistakes, have crossed legal boundaries and have lied to people in their lives. If anything that these people have done is serious and has resulted in significant actual damage to the country or to other people, I am willing to consider it. But, please don't waste your time trying to convince me that any of these folks are not human beings.

[bigwillq]

34. No (nt)

[Trust Buster]

35. I don't really care how the woman transmitted her emails four years ago.

[chwaliszewski]

43. Apathy may be part of the problem.

"I really like this candidate and want them to win so I can look past certain things. Meh. If my candidate's opponent had done the same thing, there may be hell to pay." I think that sums it up.

My biggest problem with Hillary is the same one I have with Sarah Palin and Donald Trump. That is, you'll never hear them actually apologize if they did something wrong. For example, they slam the door on someone's hand and instead of saying "I'm so sorry that I hurt you." they would say something like "I'm sorry that your hand was hurt in the door."

[Trust Buster]

45. Naw, you don't really care how she transmitted her emails 4 years ago either. You have a

political motivation to feign outrage. Your candidate couldn't win on the merits. He had fewer votes and fewer pledged delegates. That means the majority of voters hold my opinion and not yours.

[chwaliszewski]

46. Oh, cool. You're a mind-reader.

Can you tell me what I'm thinking about you right now?

[Trust Buster]

47. It's obvious that you're politically motivated. You're only fooling yourself and not us.

[chwaliszewski]

48. I'm fooling myself?

Do you think you could help me then? I don't wish to fool myself any longer. What should I do?

[Trust Buster]

49. Just realize that, if you weren't a Sanders acolyte, you wouldn't give a damn about her emails.

[chwaliszewski]

52. I'm gonna disagree with you on that. I would give a damn.

I don't like the shadiness of any politician's acts that say to me, I want to do something that I don't think the people would like so I'll try to hide it.

I see her using a personal e-mail account as SoS because there were dealings that she wanted to keep from the public eye via FOIA. If Bernie were to do that, I'd be pissed at him and would not trust him.

[oberliner]

44. She says she did something wrong

Who among us can say that we've never done something wrong?

[stevenleser]

50. That's not the question. The question is, does one believe what she has done wrong is disqualifying

Everyone has done "things wrong".

[Seeinghope]

58. My thread not yours! LOL!!! Obviously the Hillary Clinton supporters on DU don't. So what is the

point of the question?

[Skid Rogue]

53. I will happily put my hand on the bible.....

and swear on my partner's life, that I believe 100% that Hillary will make a much, much, much better president than Bernie Sanders.

[Seeinghope]

62. So you avoid the question too. None of the Hillary Clinton supporters want to seriously

swear that with all of the things going on right now,(e-mails, Wall Street Speeches, Libya, Sidney Blumenthal, The Clinton Foundation)......Hillary Clinton has not lied to the American People. I guess that means that even her supporters know that she has lied.

[anotherproletariat]

54. I believe her! She admitted to mistakes, but I absolute do not think she would ever knowingly

do anything to compromise national security. (And luckily, that is not even an issue, since the State Department didn't send classified info via email. Anything that was reclassified after she left office cannot be held against her.)

[joshcryer]

55. I think she snubbed the records act.

But not intentionally. I suspect she just kicked it down the road, not considering that the right wing Judicial Watch was going to do something.