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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:26 PM May 2016

20,000 Sanders supporters in Oakland today "not ready to throw their support behind Clinton"

At least 20,000 Bernie Sanders supporters gathered at Oakland's Frank Ogawa Plaza to hear the presidential candidate speak.

This was the second of two Bernie Sanders events in Oakland on Monday, and this one was moved up to avoid being at the same time as the Warriors game.



"If we can win here in California, our largest state, one of our most progressive states, we will go into the Democratic Convention with a great deal of momentum and we will come out with the nomination," he said. "In virtually every state and national poll, we do much better against Trump than does Secretary Clinton."

:large

The math may be against them, but there's no give-up in those here who are feeling the Bern. They're not ready to throw their support behind Hillary Clinton, at least not before the convention.

http://abc7news.com/politics/estimated-20000-people-attend-bernie-sanders-rally-in-oakland/1362730/
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20,000 Sanders supporters in Oakland today "not ready to throw their support behind Clinton" (Original Post) Miles Archer May 2016 OP
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60,000--yea, right...jeezz asuhornets May 2016 #2
Hillary gets 60,000 all the time! The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #3
But that was for the lunch special speech to the small bankers..n/t tokenlib May 2016 #5
That's a lot of bankers. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #6
Oh no, that was the fee...only six showed up to hear her...n/t tokenlib May 2016 #9
LOL! The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #10
*Zing!* n/t Hydra May 2016 #18
LOL. And they had their fingers in their ears. nm rhett o rick May 2016 #19
Add anothe zero and you have her speaking fee. CentralMass May 2016 #11
100,000 would be more accurate mhatrw May 2016 #92
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there are 40 million people in CA.. asuhornets May 2016 #17
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K & R findrskeep May 2016 #69
George Clooney's small rally served her very, very well. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #28
He didn't handle the backlash from that well at all. Miles Archer May 2016 #40
Her name recognition and the fact that this is her second national run for JDPriestly May 2016 #33
There are lots of Americans that love what Sen Sanders stands for. And that scares rhett o rick May 2016 #20
"the Oligarchy". why do you keep using that word. Noone speaks that way.eom asuhornets May 2016 #23
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Sanders says something--and the next thing you know his supporters are repeating asuhornets May 2016 #51
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You are the one looking foolish.Most voters are not talking about the billionaire class or oligarch asuhornets May 2016 #61
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Your candidate is the one losing--u r the one that's digging.. asuhornets May 2016 #64
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Things like "Pie in the Sky" and "Never Ever" bahrbearian May 2016 #87
Not in your bubble of denial. Did you read the Princeton Report that stated that rhett o rick May 2016 #27
People with large vocabularies do. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #32
Jimmy Carter does. Fawke Em May 2016 #38
I use to scan the AM dial looking for "liberal" political talk itsrobert May 2016 #53
I see... I knew it!!! nt asuhornets May 2016 #55
Hey, I hear Bill drew a throng of 1000 today notadmblnd May 2016 #36
Throng or thong? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #39
100,000 would be more accurate mhatrw May 2016 #91
Isn't Oakland right next to Vermont? Or something? n/t QC May 2016 #4
CA surrounds vermont nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #7
Vermont is CA's home state Kittycat May 2016 #13
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And artisanal maple syrup, right? n/t QC May 2016 #16
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I've heard their hybrid vehicle run on maple syrup. QC May 2016 #31
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How do they keep the maple syrup from gumming up the fuel injectors? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #60
Birkenstock-wearing, Volvo-driving, man-bun-styling white male hipsters The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #21
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Artisanal man-buns appeared first in Oakland. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #35
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Is that you?? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #57
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Well, whoever it is has a nice smile. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #59
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Are you kidding? The photos of the RALLY look predominantly white but skylucy May 2016 #71
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It is 34.5% white, 28.2% African-American, 25.4% Hispanic, 16.9% Asian JDPriestly May 2016 #42
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As in much if not all of California. Certainly we are a minority in my neighborhood. JDPriestly May 2016 #94
The crowd of 20-30K people was comprised entirely of The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #48
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Some were, lol Prism May 2016 #84
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At least they weren't staggering around drunk. JDPriestly May 2016 #96
That would be a dream. Lots of nurses and teachers and students who care about the JDPriestly May 2016 #95
I've heard it said beltanefauve May 2016 #93
It's a small mostly white village next to Vermont. jfern May 2016 #72
I hear they have great maple syrup! QC May 2016 #74
60K strong CountAllVotes May 2016 #77
And I'm right over there.. can you see me wayyyyyy in the back taking pics of peoples 2banon May 2016 #80
Right on! CountAllVotes May 2016 #81
Yay, we're in that pic! Prism May 2016 #86
I wish we had coordinated in advance 2banon May 2016 #90
You should look at a map of Frank H. Ogawa Plaza. Where did "60,000" or even "20,000" people... George II May 2016 #8
It really bothers you that Sen Sanders can draw large crowds of regular people and rhett o rick May 2016 #22
So where are the port-a-johns? ucrdem May 2016 #41
That is so sweet of you to worry about where they went potty. jillan May 2016 #45
Yup GoldenSF May 2016 #49
Behind the giant tree Prism May 2016 #65
We got in line over by Lafayette Square. zigby May 2016 #83
I can haz speech munee? (Sorry, I'm not that good at LOLcats) Miles Archer May 2016 #50
It doesn't bother me when (if) he draws big crowds, it bothers me when they make up the size... George II May 2016 #88
Massive, massive overflow Prism May 2016 #24
I was standing just outside the fence. jfern May 2016 #73
I'm surprised we got in Prism May 2016 #82
Hope he reminded them that they need to go out and physically vote Txbluedog May 2016 #34
You don't hope that. JonLeibowitz May 2016 #43
Clinton Rally-20 min wait, Bernie Rally - 3.5 hr wait GoldenSF May 2016 #47
Of course, Clinton people seem to be willing to show up and vote... brooklynite May 2016 #52
Ssshhhhhh!!! NanceGreggs May 2016 #66
Good for you! A thrill, eh? oldandhappy May 2016 #70
Poor babies. Sparkly May 2016 #68
"at least not before the convention." You forgot some words. Makes a difference. upaloopa May 2016 #76
wow 77 replys and I only see 6. The Hillarians must be out in force tonight. I wonder what litlbilly May 2016 #78
Running to CA takes time CountAllVotes May 2016 #79
Y'know, I keep adding them to my ignore list but damn if they don't keep getting off somehow... eom VulgarPoet May 2016 #89

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asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
17. there are 40 million people in CA..
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:54 PM
May 2016

Hillary's small rallies have served her well---wouldn't u agree..?

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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
40. He didn't handle the backlash from that well at all.
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:13 AM
May 2016
George Clooney admits money he raised for Hillary Clinton is 'obscene'

Speaking to NBC’s Meet the Press, the actor was asked by host Chuck Todd whether the sums involved in his events, such as $353,400 a couple to be a “co-chair”, were, as critics and protesters have said, obscene.

“Yes,” he said. “I think it’s an obscene amount of money. I think – you know that we had some protesters last night when we pulled up in San Francisco and they’re right to protest, they’re absolutely right, it is an obscene amount of money.

“The Sanders campaign when they talk about it is absolutely right. It’s ridiculous that we should have this kind of money in politics. I agree, completely.”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/17/george-clooney-hillary-clinton-fundraiser-obscene-money

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
33. Her name recognition and the fact that this is her second national run for
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:07 AM
May 2016

a Democratic primary have done her well.

She has not done well at all if you remember that while many of us listened to Bernie on Thom Hartmann's show for years, we did not think of him as a presidential candidate or associate him with the presidency at all until a little over a year ago.

He came out of nowhere and is running neck and neck, possibly ahead of Hillary. She is not doing well at all considering her head start.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
20. There are lots of Americans that love what Sen Sanders stands for. And that scares
Mon May 30, 2016, 11:58 PM
May 2016

the Oligarchy and their minions. Most Americans don't trust Hillary Cinton-Sachs.

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asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
51. Sanders says something--and the next thing you know his supporters are repeating
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:22 AM
May 2016

here -- verbatim.

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asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
61. You are the one looking foolish.Most voters are not talking about the billionaire class or oligarch
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:28 AM
May 2016

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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
27. Not in your bubble of denial. Did you read the Princeton Report that stated that
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:04 AM
May 2016

this nation is no longer a democracy but essentially an oligarchy? Big Money runs our government. Tell me it doesn't. Tell me that the $150,000,000 that the Clintons received from billionaires and corporations wasn't intended to influence. Do you even know about Citizens United?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
32. People with large vocabularies do.
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:06 AM
May 2016

"Oligarchy" has a specific meaning, and it's good to use words that are specific. We are living in an oligarchy but unfortunately a lot of people can't seem to recognize the fact.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
53. I use to scan the AM dial looking for "liberal" political talk
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:24 AM
May 2016

Landed on some guy that goes by the name of Michael Savage. He used "Oligarchy" plenty while describing the Clintons in the 1990's. I see where he gets it from.

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QC

(26,371 posts)
31. I've heard their hybrid vehicle run on maple syrup.
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:06 AM
May 2016

But only if it's artisanal, organic, and fair trade!

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
21. Birkenstock-wearing, Volvo-driving, man-bun-styling white male hipsters
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:00 AM
May 2016

make up the entire population of Oakland, which is actually in Vermont.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
35. Artisanal man-buns appeared first in Oakland.
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:09 AM
May 2016

Have you seen the vast kale and arugula gardens that grow there?

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skylucy

(3,737 posts)
71. Are you kidding? The photos of the RALLY look predominantly white but
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:01 AM
May 2016

Oakland is 53% black and hispanic. It is 34% white. I live in the Bay Area not that far from Oakland. Anyone who lives in the Bay Area knows that Oakland has a large minority population. Why in the world would you say that Oakland is predominantly white? If you don't believe me, just google Oakland Ca demographics.

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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
42. It is 34.5% white, 28.2% African-American, 25.4% Hispanic, 16.9% Asian
Reply to QC (Reply #4)
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:13 AM
May 2016

plus 25.9% "non-hispanic" whatever that means.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland,_California

Who said Bernie only appeals to white people?

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
48. The crowd of 20-30K people was comprised entirely of
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:16 AM
May 2016

white middle-class male college students who were wearing man-buns and Birkenstocks and eating Vermont maple syrup and kale sandwiches on artisanal gluten-free bread while waiting in line for the rally.

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Prism

(5,815 posts)
84. Some were, lol
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:49 AM
May 2016

There was a group waiting in line passing a joint right in front of the cops on 13th Street. I thought that was pretty ballsy.

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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
96. At least they weren't staggering around drunk.
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:46 PM
May 2016

If the choice is between marijuana and alcohol, as one who imbibes in neither, I prefer that others uses marijuana. Alcohol abuse is responsible for so many deaths in our country.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
95. That would be a dream. Lots of nurses and teachers and students who care about the
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:44 PM
May 2016

world and whether, as Bernie said in Santa Cruz, we will care enough about the environment to save the human race.

Feel the Bern!

beltanefauve

(1,784 posts)
93. I've heard it said
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:24 PM
May 2016

that over 120 languages and dialects are spoken in Oakland. It's diverse as can be.I lived there for several years and miss it, too.

QC

(26,371 posts)
74. I hear they have great maple syrup!
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:06 AM
May 2016

And I've always wanted to go to Oakland in September to see the famous fall color.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
80. And I'm right over there.. can you see me wayyyyyy in the back taking pics of peoples
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:35 AM
May 2016

backsides, cuz I'm too damn short to shoot over head! LOl.

It was an AWESOME event today. effin Awesome!


CountAllVotes

(20,866 posts)
81. Right on!
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:38 AM
May 2016

This fellow Oaklander says Feel The Bern! I'd expect nothing less from My Town ... Oakland that is! Thanks for being there! It means a lot!



 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
86. Yay, we're in that pic!
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:59 AM
May 2016

We were lounging next to the photographer's stand near the giant tree.

And . . . right in the sun. Doh. I had spf several billion on. A ginger-haired friend was not so lucky.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
90. I wish we had coordinated in advance
Tue May 31, 2016, 10:55 AM
May 2016

with other Du'rs .. But I was also celebrating my daughter's birthday, 45 years old (omg) on memorial day.

Bernie's event held in the late afternoon was perfect timing.

I LOVED seeing the beautiful blend of humanity supporting Bernie, across the spectrum of age, race, gender.

Did you see the guy with the Bernie puppet? His wife made it, and he was obviously quite the puppeteer, did a comedic impersonation. it was great. ran into him down in the Bart station.

How'd you like the "F**K Trump shirts?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
22. It really bothers you that Sen Sanders can draw large crowds of regular people and
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:00 AM
May 2016

Hillary meets in secret with a few big money fat cats. It's a class war and you've chosen the wrong side.

GoldenSF

(27 posts)
49. Yup
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:17 AM
May 2016

It was pretty dehydrating out there in the hot sun. Not sure how all of us made it through, but yes people were waiting for 3+ hours in line.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
65. Behind the giant tree
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:31 AM
May 2016

Near the metal detectors and water station. You can't see them because of the tree, though.

zigby

(125 posts)
83. We got in line over by Lafayette Square.
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:44 AM
May 2016

We were within a block a of that park for abt 1hr until line started moving for real. There were public toilets in Lafayette Square, and as the line snaked around for many blocks, there were opportunities to go pee. We stopped off at Burrito Express for a pee and a soda. The crowd was exceedingly mellow, friendly, and clean. I'm sure no business turned anyone away, and we all purchased something anyways.

Is there anything else I can tell you about the urinary habits of strangers, or are you good?

George II

(67,782 posts)
88. It doesn't bother me when (if) he draws big crowds, it bothers me when they make up the size...
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:47 AM
May 2016

...of the crowds.

It should bother you more that the "crowds" that he draws don't trouble themselves to actually vote.

BTW, last month I went to a "secret" rally with Bill Clinton - there were about 100 people there, I didn't see any fat cats. A few days later Clinton won our primary.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
24. Massive, massive overflow
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:01 AM
May 2016

I was there. It was totally insane. There were crowds standing out on Broadway when we left.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
82. I'm surprised we got in
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:40 AM
May 2016

We arrived at 1pm, and there was already a massive line wrapping around the worker's food mall outdoor thingy.

But we snagged a nice view. In the top pic of the OP, there's a guy with a red shirt on the photographer's stand towards the right of the picture. I was on the ground next to him. Unfortunately the black umbrella is blocking us from the pic, lol.

GoldenSF

(27 posts)
47. Clinton Rally-20 min wait, Bernie Rally - 3.5 hr wait
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:15 AM
May 2016

My folks went to a Hillary rally in San Jose last week. It took them 20 minutes to get in no problem.

It took me 3 1/2 hours waiting in a line that snaked around for blocks in Downtown Oakland to get into Bernie's rally. For a candidate facing daunting odds to win the nomination, he sure brought out a huge crowd - especially when he was competing with the other huge Oakland event of the day, the Warriors playoff game. My fellow supporters around me weren't sure we would make it through security into Frank Ogawa Plaza, but somehow we made it. Seeing him in person was worth the wait under the blistering sun .

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
70. Good for you! A thrill, eh?
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:38 AM
May 2016

I was lucky to go to a smaller rally last week so got away with just a major facial sun-bunt, smile. Peeling now. I am delighted for you that you got in and that your gave us this first hand report.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
78. wow 77 replys and I only see 6. The Hillarians must be out in force tonight. I wonder what
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:24 AM
May 2016

they are saying? Must be wonderful things I would guess

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