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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:43 PM May 2016

Markos Moulitsas: Sanders seeks to disqualify two great liberals from convention

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Newly minted Democrat Bernie Sanders seeks to disqualify the first openly gay congressman who also happens to be the author of Dodd-Frank—the law Sanders would use to break up the banks, He also seeks to disqualify the architect of incredible progressive achievements in Connecticut, including paid family leave, stricter gun laws, and a dramatic decline in the state’s prison population. You know, two long-time Democrats who have done amazing shit. And why? Because they’re “aggressive attack surrogates” … in a political campaign! Try to contain your horror, please.

Meanwhile, in what is apparently not a joke, Sanders named Cornel West to the platform committee, who is not an “aggressive attack surrogate” at all… Sanders was supposedly the antithesis of a politician, yet here he is challenging the worst of them in the hypocrisy game.

This is all part of Sanders’ pretensions of a contested primary. Ha ha, as if. Except it’s hard to laugh when it’s clear that Sanders seeks to divide the party heading into its face-off with Donald Trump. Ironic, huh? We thought it’d be the GOP divided and in civil war. Little did we know that Sanders’ kamikaze mission would wreak that on the Democrats instead.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/31/1532689/-Sanders-seeks-to-disqualify-two-great-liberals-from-convention

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Markos Moulitsas: Sanders seeks to disqualify two great liberals from convention (Original Post) Cali_Democrat May 2016 OP
Markos has officially lost it. Dawgs May 2016 #1
+1 mmonk May 2016 #2
More like Markos recognizes that LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #3
No. He lost it. nt Dawgs May 2016 #5
Sanders' contempt for the party will only hurt it hack89 May 2016 #6
No. He could care less about "the party". His interest is in saving America from itself. Dawgs May 2016 #8
So he should have run as an Independent hack89 May 2016 #19
By electing Trump Demsrule86 May 2016 #20
That sneaky trojan horse commie! And by god he's doing it! lol. morningfog May 2016 #14
He is not a commie hack89 May 2016 #22
That is not what you suggested by claiming his plan is to destroy the party. morningfog May 2016 #28
I am undecided if his actions are malicious or not hack89 May 2016 #30
The party has already hurt itself so severely vintx May 2016 #7
Sorry. I should have added "more". nt Dawgs May 2016 #9
The Democratic Party hurt itself severely under Obama? n/t asuhornets May 2016 #25
It's Sanders who has lost it KingFlorez May 2016 #13
That's a pretty serious charge. Dawgs May 2016 #18
Calm down with the drama. I'm not a damn prosecutor, so I can't charge anyone with anything KingFlorez May 2016 #21
So, no example. Dawgs May 2016 #26
The fact that he has few congressional endorsements says a lot KingFlorez May 2016 #34
sure lots of them Demsrule86 May 2016 #23
"Lots of them"? Dawgs May 2016 #27
HEY! If anyone knows liberals, it a former CIA Republican running a third way forum. merrily May 2016 #32
oh noes!!!!!!1111!!!!elevens!!!11 Sanders is doin' POLITICS in a POLITCAL CAMPAIGN. What will that leeroysphitz May 2016 #4
Markos Moulitsas does NOT have the cred... dchill May 2016 #10
One of these "great liberals" Barney Frank, is a big-time Wall Street banker. Bought and paid for. imagine2015 May 2016 #11
Exactly. vintx May 2016 #17
And Dodd-Frank is an accomplishment?!?!?!?!!?!? basselope May 2016 #12
It's a very weak law which has done nothing to curtail the Wall Street tycoons. imagine2015 May 2016 #16
Yes it is Demsrule86 May 2016 #24
No, it's not. basselope May 2016 #36
Like it or not, it's the toughest banking regulation in a generation. That's not nothing. CrowCityDem May 2016 #33
Yes it is... less than nothing. basselope May 2016 #35
How do we have a reasonable conversation when one side says something < nothing? CrowCityDem May 2016 #37
First, you have to acknowledge that sometimes Something actually IS worse than nothing. basselope May 2016 #39
"Past performance does not guaranty future performance" Ferd Berfel May 2016 #15
k&r! BootinUp May 2016 #29
K & R indeed! Let's expose these two counterfeit liberals and their financial benefactors. imagine2015 May 2016 #31
Fuck the lobbyists. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #38
Go fuck yourself Markos, Right Wing sympathizer AZ Progressive May 2016 #40

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
3. More like Markos recognizes that
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:48 PM
May 2016

not only does Sanders hold a grudge for a long time, he's not in a position to make these demands anyway.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
8. No. He could care less about "the party". His interest is in saving America from itself.
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:53 PM
May 2016

And, I agree with him.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
19. So he should have run as an Independent
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:03 PM
May 2016

instead of lying to the Democratic party in order to use their money and resources to run for president.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
20. By electing Trump
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:03 PM
May 2016

and then he and Susie get a revolution ...while the rest of us starve...Bernie could weather Trump so could little Susie but You and I not so much. This shows that Sanders cares nothing for the American people.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
30. I am undecided if his actions are malicious or not
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:20 PM
May 2016

I know that as a carpet bagger he has no loyalty to the party so I have no doubt that the fate of the party is not something he cares about. Once he is done with their money and resources he will move on. How he handles next week will be instructive - does he gracefully accept that Hillary is the presumptive nominee or will he continue to lash out in anger and frustration.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
13. It's Sanders who has lost it
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:56 PM
May 2016

He pushes the idea that everyone hates him, yet it seems like he hates everyone who doesn't share his beliefs right down to the slightest detail.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
21. Calm down with the drama. I'm not a damn prosecutor, so I can't charge anyone with anything
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:04 PM
May 2016

Hating someone is not a criminal charge. And you'll notice that I said "seems", which is an opinion of mine.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
34. The fact that he has few congressional endorsements says a lot
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:29 PM
May 2016

But again, I said "seems", which doesn't imply that I stated anything as fact.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
23. sure lots of them
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:05 PM
May 2016

He hates Clinton for damn sure ...actions speak louder than words and his are hate filled ...he has contempt for primary voters too...thinks old Grand-dad Bernie knows best.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
27. "Lots of them"?
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:13 PM
May 2016

Can you provide a quote, a link, anything that shows that Bernie HATES anyone?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
32. HEY! If anyone knows liberals, it a former CIA Republican running a third way forum.
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

Don't make me wash your mouth out with soap!

 

leeroysphitz

(10,462 posts)
4. oh noes!!!!!!1111!!!!elevens!!!11 Sanders is doin' POLITICS in a POLITCAL CAMPAIGN. What will that
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:49 PM
May 2016

crazy guy do next?

dchill

(38,447 posts)
10. Markos Moulitsas does NOT have the cred...
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016

to determine what a "great liberal" is. Obviously, since he's impugning the only one in the race. Centrist banker wannabees are not liberals, let alone great ones. Openly gay has NOTHING to do with this.

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
11. One of these "great liberals" Barney Frank, is a big-time Wall Street banker. Bought and paid for.
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:55 PM
May 2016


How Wall Street Bought Barney Frank
Barney Frank takes pride in being the Left's darling, but he's almost entirely funded by Wall Street and his votes show it
By Kevin Connor / AlterNet


Since becoming the ranking Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee seven years ago, he has built a formidable Wall Street donor base, even by Washington’s standards; as the housing bubble grew, so too did his fundraising purse and his stature, in Congress and beyond.

In the course of this Wall Street-fueled fundraising blitz, Frank developed a web of relationships, alliances, and attachments to financial elites that have repeatedly undermined his independence on everything from bailout negotiations to the financial reform legislation that he recently shepherded through the House. And his friends in finance continue to extend -- and collect on -- their investment.

Read the full article at:
http://www.alternet.org/story/144454/how_wall_street_bought_barney_frank

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Barney Frank now works for Wall Street imagine2015


Wall Street Journal
Barney Frank–Yes, THAT Barney Frank–Joins a Bank Board
By Rachel Louise Ensign
June 17, 2015

Barney Frank, a key architect of financial-crisis era legislation that reshaped the financial industry, is joining a bank board.

Retired House Democrat Mr. Frank, one of the namesakes of the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial-reform law, was appointed to the board of directors of New York-based Signature Bank on Wednesday.

Signature is a $29 billion bank that primarily works with privately-owned businesses. The 14-year old bank has been growing rapidly and performing well at a time when other banks have struggled. Last quarter it posted its 22nd consecutive quarter of record earnings.

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/06/17/barney-frank-yes-that-barney-frank-joins-a-bank-board/

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Wall Street hosts fundraiser for Barney Frank
By Heidi N. Moore
June 07, 2011

Heidi Moore: Every morning, a Wall Street trade group called SIFMA sends out an email with the day's news. SIFMA is the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association. It represents banks and trading firms. So it's no surprise that the email is usually heavy with critical news stories about financial reform laws, like the Dodd-Frank Act.

But tonight, SIFMA will be hosting a fundraising dinner for Democratic Congressman Barney Frank: yes, he's the Frank in Dodd-Frank. SIFMA members will pay $1,000 or more for a seat at the table. The deal here isn't hard to spot: Wall Street wants to bend Frank's ear.

http://www.marketplace.org/2011/06/07/business/wall-street-hosts-fundraiser-barney-frank
 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
16. It's a very weak law which has done nothing to curtail the Wall Street tycoons.
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

They are bigger and richer than ever before.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
24. Yes it is
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

an accomplishment...hard fought ...has some good stuff...could we get better but not now with a GOP house? However, you pure people keep typing ...I am sure that will do it. Bernie types accomplish nothing in the real world...but they have their self-righteous anger to keep them warm at night.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
36. No, it's not.
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:33 PM
May 2016

It's not an accomplishment and it wasn't that hard fought and has no "good stuff" in it. It creates the illusion of protection why actually providing NONE.

Worse, this was done while democrats were in control, coming off one of the largest financial crisis in history.

It's weak as water.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
35. Yes it is... less than nothing.
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:30 PM
May 2016

You know why. It is the ONLY banking regulations in a generation, so being the "toughest" isn't that hard.

ALL of the other moves in the financial industry for the last generation have been to ROLL BACK regulations.

Dodd-Frank, in many ways, makes things WORSE, because it gives the illusion of protection when people keep making statements like "toughest banking regulation in a generation", but its like using cheese cloth for a condom. It may look like something is there, but it ain't protecting anyone from anything.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
39. First, you have to acknowledge that sometimes Something actually IS worse than nothing.
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:17 PM
May 2016

Using the example I gave above... using cheese cloth as a condom is SOMETHING. It's not NOTHING. However, the problem is that it is giving the false perception of protection. I could rattle off hundreds of examples. Paying monthly fees to credit card for identity theft protection, only to find out they don't really do much if your identity is fully stolen. Why not use dental floss instead of a seatbelt and see how works out? IT's something, right? High deductible health insurance that forces someone into bankruptcy because they thought they were protected, only to find out they now owe tens of thousands of dollars. (My wife just finished Chemo and even with our Platinum level insurance, we will owe over 30K.. luckily, we can afford it.. but that amount would drive many into bankruptcy and we had the most expensive healthcare plan available.)

THAT is the problem with Dodd-Frank that Clinton (and her enablers) refuse to acknowledge. It not only isn't sufficient, but it makes things worse because the public think they are protected, when they are not. We are in as much danger now of a financial meltdown as we were before (in many ways MORE SO because of the additional consolidation) and Dodd Frank can't do a damn thing about.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
15. "Past performance does not guaranty future performance"
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

Their 'liberal' creds are ancient history.

Today they are both Wall street lobbyists, making them both Corporate whores

 

imagine2015

(2,054 posts)
31. K & R indeed! Let's expose these two counterfeit liberals and their financial benefactors.
Tue May 31, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

Thank you Cali Democrat!

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
40. Go fuck yourself Markos, Right Wing sympathizer
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:27 PM
May 2016

Markos supported the RW Salvadoran Government which carried out death squads that killed over 40,000 people.

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