2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow to Explain the Sanders Campaign to an Idiot, Paul Krugman or a Clintonite in 8 Sentences
'Sentence #1: If a Democratic primary candidate can win 59 percent of the Partys pledged (primary- and caucus-won) delegates or more, the primary is decided by pledged delegates; if a Democratic primary candidate fails to meet that threshold, they are considered by DNC electoral processes to be a weak front-runner and the nomination is finally decided, instead, by superdelegates who can express support for a candidate at any time, but cannot commit themselves to anyone (i.e., cast a binding vote for any candidate) until the Democratic National Convention in July; superdelegates are unlike pledged delegates in this regard because, while pledged delegates also do not vote until the Partys convention, they cannot change their votes from what their states voting results pledged them to be though it has been argued by some that in fact they can change their votes at the Convention, with this argument most recently having been advanced by Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008.'>>>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/how-to-explain-the-sanders_b_10206250.html
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)I doubt they will, but they'll try to the detriment of the Party. And even then, I bet the delegates go for a candidate with a chance to win.
elleng
(130,825 posts)As secretary of State, she ignored repeated warnings about email security.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512090029
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)was in 2008
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Me either.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Seeinghope
(786 posts)All of the proof will go poof!
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)But let's not pretend she is clean and hasn't lied repeatedly. But hey, it runs in the family.
frylock
(34,825 posts)till you get your little safe space where nothing happening in the real world will have any effect on you.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)her server is not "praying for the indictment fairy" and the story will continue beyond June 18 and will be discussed here. Brace yourself for dispointment.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)So no more sewage like one sees from the HA Gooddman, Seth Abramson, Shaun King crowd.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)by flogging that issue.
Trashing the nominee helps Trump.
Baaadger
(5 posts)Hillary Clinton leads Donald J. Trump by just 4 points in New Jersey, a state that hasn't voted for a Republican presidential nominee since 1988.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Response to geek tragedy (Reply #16)
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840high
(17,196 posts)ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)he didn't say, "8 simple sentences."
But he forgot the necessary preface, "New Rules".
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)is the chief editor for a writing program! See the end of the OP link.
ContinentalOp
(5,356 posts)Just as convoluted, but with words instead of numbers!
quickesst
(6,280 posts)... that the claims of Hillary Clinton being a weak candidate only tells everyone else that Bernie's supporters believe that if she can't put Sanders away then he is an even weaker candidate and not formidable at all. If she is that weak how come Bernie can't beat her? That statement is a double edged sword and Bernie supporters are trying to climb it with both hands, one on each edge.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And yet he has managed to scratch and claw his way into a virtual tie with her. I would say he is a very, very strong candidate despite all odds.
mythology
(9,527 posts)He's behind by more than twice as much as Clinton was in 2008.
Apparently we get our news from different sources as I've heard about Sanders on every news source I read, watch or listen to.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)It's near a virtual tie and it won't be resolved until the convention, or someone gets indicted, whichever happens first.
If she or anyone involved is indicted AFTER the convention, Trump is the next president. Especially if they throw someone besides Sanders in.
The Democratic party is incompetent.
quickesst
(6,280 posts)... a virtual tie. You are absolutely wrong if you think the public and the media do not know who Bernie Sanders is now. He gets more airtime than Hillary Clinton does, especially on Sunday. What I'm trying to tell you is that if you believe that Hillary Clinton is a weak candidate and she is leading Bernie Sanders substantially in votes and delegates, then how do you expect him to be a more formidable opponent against Donald Trump than Hillary Clinton? Why can't he be a weak candidate if he is so formidable? Logic is not on your side.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
YouDig
(2,280 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Professor Abramson is a professor at a small state university.
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DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I have another fan... I feel like Elvis, lol.
jcgoldie
(11,623 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Ditto for H.A. Goodman.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)As for Clinton "having every possible advantage...in terms of the logistics of individual state electoral processes," Sanders benefited from caucuses, which greatly suppress the vote. Replace caucuses with primaries and I doubt Clinton would have much trouble reaching 2383 via pledged delegates alone.
And Clinton's early superdelegate advantage in 2008 didn't prevent Obama from beating her. If anything, in an anti-establishment climate, Sanders probably got a boost from Clinton's superdelegate advantage.