2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders jabs California Governor Jerry Brown....calls him the "Democratic establishment"
FYI: Jerry Brown is a superdelegate.
From the Sacramento Bee:
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Bernie Sanders jabs back at Jerry Brown, Democratic establishment
MAY 31, 2016
Bernie Sanders on Tuesday jabbed back at Gov. Jerry Browns endorsement of Hillary Clinton in the presidential campaign, saying he is accustomed to opposition from the Democratic establishment.
I will tell you that in every state that we have gone into, we have taken on the entire Democratic establishment, Sanders said in response to a question about the Democratic governors endorsement. Its not surprising to me that, you know, we will have the Democratic establishment supporting Hillary Clinton.
He added, I like Jerry Brown, but people can make their own choices.
One week before Californias June 7 primary, Sanders stopped for reporters in a hotel hallway after leaving a news conference without taking any questions.
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article80908912.html
randome
(34,845 posts)That 2nd paragraph: doesn't it sound a little...oh, I don't know...Trump-ish?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
boston bean
(36,221 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
WhiteTara
(29,704 posts)thought that should be your endorsement, but it's not.
reddread
(6,896 posts)nobody who knows jerry brown.
cant you find some actual foundation for your scorn?
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)A political party is only of use if it represents our ideals.
Blind loyalty is lazy. It keeps you from having to examine what you believe.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)OF course, according to the whining sore loser named Sanders, anybody who didn't vote for him is part of the Democratic Establishment.
brush
(53,769 posts)Way past time for some new material.
enid602
(8,614 posts)It's bern against the world. The burden he must carry!
okieinpain
(9,397 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Yeah, pun intended.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)*THAT* Jerry?
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)We are working to renew this measure by putting it on the ballot for Nov.
Curious that someone who says he is dedicated to reducing the effects of wealth hasn't said word one about any of this.
ecstatic
(32,685 posts)The list of important topics he hasn't yet studied grows longer by the day.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)still_one
(92,154 posts)makes Bernie look so gracious
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)If we're all too establishment for him, who would he deign to work with as President?
still_one
(92,154 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Keep insulting and demeaning democrats...can't wait for 16 days for the end of the nonsense and get back to supporting democrats...
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Huh. Ok then.
Mr Maru
(216 posts)Somebody else this campaign season is blowing up at reporters for daring to pose challenging questions, whining about "rigged" systems and lashing out at people for the cardinal sin of declining to endorse. And it ain't Hillary.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)This whole act is so tired.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I wonder if Bernie will equal Brown's vote % in the primary
ecstatic
(32,685 posts)30+ years in politics with no other career or skills to fall back on.
Bernie may not be well liked among his peers, but he's definitely establishment. And his predictable dismissal of Jerry Brown is noted.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Voting against:
- the repeal of Glass-Steagall
- The Patriot Act
- the Iraq War
- Fast Tracking the TPP and other trade deals
ecstatic
(32,685 posts)But I guess that's enough for his fans.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
ecstatic
(32,685 posts)Voted with the NRA to get and keep his "job." Pathetic.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)my father voted for both Jerry and his father Pat Brown for CA governor. That's establishment. Does not mean he's not liberal or a good person but he does come from Democratic power and has long held it himself. His claims to being more in the establishment than of it dissolved long ago.
Skink
(10,122 posts)She is looking at sinking poll numbers and a huge jump in new voter registrations.
brush
(53,769 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)JCMach1
(27,556 posts)still_one
(92,154 posts)especially since Brown said very nice things about him
Making new friends everyday I guess
still_one
(92,154 posts)in California. Sanders has effectively told most of the people in California who voted for Jerry Brown, that you voted for the "establishment", their code word for "3rd way Democrats"
Let's see how well that works out for you Bernie June 7
Of course if you lose California I won't be surprised if you call it fraud, when the actual reason would be standing in front of you looking in the mirror
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Our governor has a 70% approval rating because he has turned this state around.
Bernie has no idea how many people he just pissed off with his inane and thoughtless remarks
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)It's always funny to hear a career politician criticize other people for being politicians. Oh Bernie, that bird flew away with your sense of irony.
livetohike
(22,140 posts)Establishment. He reminds me of a character in Zap comics, whose name escapes me.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)RandySF
(58,776 posts)Everyone is The Establishment when you've never been a Democrat your entire life.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)old, 25 yrs in congress, man. The ultimate in establishment.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Anyone who doesn't endorse him gets accused of being part of the establishment. Ask Planned Parenthood, NARAL and a host of other people and groups.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Get the fuck out of the way already.
onenote
(42,700 posts)Does he think he could govern without support from the Democratic establishment? Does he think the Democratic establishment will come kiss his ring the way some in the Republican establishment are sucking up to Trump?
His us/them comments about the Democratic establishment are beginning to border on the delusional.
Thenewire
(130 posts)who uses buzzword to attract angry white people.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)I like Brown too, for the most part. If I had a better choice I would pick it, but I absolutely voted for Brown. I think he needs to do a better job with shrinking our prison population, rather than promoting the construction of more prisons, my gut reaction to a rainy day fund is that rainy day spending would be investing on infrastructure and education today, but I'll give myself some wiggle room on that one until I do more research. his union support seems middling, and he's good and bad on education, getting a lot of money that was lost back into schools, but being a little bullish on privatized education. He's in favor of frakking in California.
I'm not surprised that he, like every single candidate that owes his successful candidacy to the backing of the establishment, is backing the establishment candidate. Why would these people want to change the system when its working for them? When they've put in all this time to have influence within it? And when supporting the establishment's rival could have long and lasting repercussions to their future influence and even their careers? I know Brown went after Clinton hard when he ran against him, and even refused to endorse him, calling him a union buster and some other not nice things, but it looks like he came to jesus and successfully courted the democratic establishment back into the Governor's Mansion.
Anyway, the issue at hand is that people want to make a big thing about a Gubernatorial or Senatorial endorsement of Hillary Clinton, or the fact that Bernie has very few such endorsements, and I will say what I think Bernie is saying: That That's the point! His message is not popular in Washington and high level big state politics, because people who are in a position to change it like the game as it is. Even if they know its broken, they certainly don't want to be kicked out of the game for questioning the calls.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Here is an op-ed by Bill McKibben on Jerry Brown's support of fracking:
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0505-mckibben-california-fracking-20150502-story.html
Bill McKibben will be one of Bernie Sanders five people on the platform drafting committee.
Thenewire
(130 posts)It is becoming harder to separate the two as the primary comes to an end.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...Donald Trump, then Bill Clinton was similar to Trump during the 1992 primaries.
Tal Vez
(660 posts)aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)So year, Jerry Brown stuck with the establishment instead of principles.