Email email email...bla bla bla. What a bunch of pathetic nonsensical bullshit.

[RBInMaine]

Some people in anti-Hillary delusion land can blow out their gas babbling on and on about emails, but it's just a load of media hype bullshit that won't matter a bit in the grand scheme of things. (My goodness, people on here actually talking about Hillary "trying to hide her emails...What is she hiding?...bla bla bla" ... Sheer delusional insanity. Please, find the planet Earth.

Hillary will win the nomination and pound that rotten piece of shit Trump to smithereens in November. So babble on about this email nonsense all you want, Hillary derangement syndromers. This nonsense and all the conspiracy theory delusions in the world won't mean diddly shit come a week from today when Hillary clinches the nomination and everyone moves on to the general election.

Bernie is DONE fair and square. Time to grow up, get into reality, and decide if you want the racist lunatic FrankenTrump or not.

[brush]

1. That's what I'm talking about.

[think]

2. the email scandal will just show she lied to the American people and broke government rules.

It's no big deal. Hillary lies and breaks the rules all the time...

[bravenak]

3. Seriously!

[elleng]

4. Hillary Clinton broke the rules: Our view

As secretary of State, she ignored repeated warnings about email security.

'Everyone, including Hillary Clinton, now agrees that the newly confirmed secretary of State made a mistake in 2009 when she decided, for the sake of “convenience,” to run her own email system out of her home in Chappaqua, N.Y., rather than use an official State Department email account.

But a new report by State's inspector general makes clear that within two years, Clinton's bad decision had turned into something far worse: a threat to national security, one that she repeatedly ignored despite multiple warnings.

Warning No. 1: The report, released last week, reveals that in January 2011, hackers were attacking her private server. Twice, the Hillary and Bill Clinton staffer responsible for maintaining the server had to shut it off to protect data held by America's top diplomat and the former president. The staffer notified State Department officials of the attempted hack, and Clinton’s top aides there emailed each other to say that “sensitive” matters should not be discussed with Clinton over email.

Warning No. 2: Two months later, the assistant secretary for diplomatic security sent a memorandum on cybersecurity threats directly to Clinton, warning of a dramatic increase in efforts "to compromise the private home email accounts of senior department officials" in a likely attempt to "gain access to policy documents and personal information that could enable technical surveillance and possible blackmail.” The memo to Clinton warned her that some personal email accounts had already been compromised and had “been reconfigured … to automatically forward copies of all composed emails” to the hackers.

Warning No. 3: That May, Clinton herself suspected that there might have been another hacking incident when she "received an email with a suspicious link." Hours after her aides discussed the issue over email, Clinton received another email with a suspect link, this time from the personal account of the "under secretary of State for political affairs."

Warning No. 4: A month later, the State Department sent a cable to “all diplomatic and consular posts” about the dangers of unsecured personal email accounts. Staffers were ordered to “avoid conducting official Department business from your personal e-mail accounts.” Who signed that cable? Hillary Clinton.

Those warnings, coming in a span of six months, should have made any responsible public official, even one without Clinton’s access to classified information on cyber threats from the vast U.S. intelligence network, aware of the national security dangers of failing to secure the secretary of State’s email communications.

Instead, Clinton and several of her top aides continued to use personal email for sensitive State Department business thousands of times.

If Clinton wants to become the president of the United States, she needs to explain how she could make such a reckless decision. She had a chance to answer questions when the Obama administration-appointed inspector general contacted her about the investigation that was released last week. Among five recent secretaries of State, only Clinton refused.

While Clinton is under potential criminal investigation by the FBI for the mishandling of classified material sent through her email, remaining silent might be in her best interests and it is certainly her right. But to be president, she is going to have to convince voters that she can put the national security of the United States above her own short-term self-interest.

It's already clear that, in using the private email server, Clinton broke the rules. Now it remains to be seen whether she also broke the law.'

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/05/30/hillary-clinton-email-server-inspector-general-editorials-debates/85159948/

[Seeinghope]

12. Thank you for the post. It is informative and spells out what happened but you really wasted your

time. I have not seen one Hillary Clinton supporter take any evidence and believe it and/or answer it with a thoughtful logical answer. I appreciate it though. So maybe it wasn't a waste of time but don't count on it changing any minds.....

[elleng]

27. Whether or not its believed or answered thoughtfully, Seeinghope,

I think I'm obligated to provide it. Optimistic? Stubborn?

[Seeinghope]

65. Good for people like you too be both. Also good for you to feel compelled by integrity rather than

Sarcasm, deflection, fear, contempt....

[elleng]

67. I am thoroughly disgusted by the

sarcasm, deflection, fear, contempt, and they're on all sides, 'equal opportunity' unpleasantness.

[uponit7771]

13. K, so she drove 46.2 in a 45 zone... who cares?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

24. Law abiding citizens do.

[randome]

30. No. They don't. Anally retentive haters care.

The analogy is correct, imo.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

60. LOL. Whatever you say.

[elleng]

29. You've ignored or misunderstood her failed judgment so thoroughly, uponit,

I'm stunned. I wonder whether you are really up on ANYTHING.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

36. National security > 1.2 mph speeding infraction

[uponit7771]

38. Yeap, we agree... Snowden should be in jail

[Nuclear Unicorn]

42. At least Snowden acted on behalf of the American people unlike Hillary and her self-serving ambition

[uponit7771]

45. HRC is here for investigation Snowden isn't, Snowden = "far left" hero... "far left" = Full Of Shit?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

47. At least now you admit she's under investigation for similar crimes.

[uponit7771]

48. Nope, not under investigation for being a traitor like Snowden, HDS is strong with some and they

... jus say dumb shit no?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

50. HDS is derived from BDS, Bush Derangement Syndrome; the RW term to dismiss criticisms

Why do Hillary supporters always retreat to the safety of RW covens to deflect?

[uponit7771]

52. Only wingers think DS was exclusive to Bush, either way many winger sources posted to this day

... and we're still laughing at the amount of HDS displayed

[Nuclear Unicorn]

55. "Wingers"

[frylock]

66. ..

[puffy socks]

77. Lol

Please
Only a fool believes that
Hes been caught in so many lies

[barrow-wight]

61. Isn't the hypocrisy on that amazing?

It's like the way they've curiously evolved on the issue of guns.

[uponit7771]

64. +1

[apcalc]

54. USA Today owned by Gannet

Republican.

[elleng]

58. I guess you'd rather not read,

just call names. Heckuva way to run a democracy.

[passiveporcupine]

68. They also have a policy of providing both sides of an issue

on opinion pieces. If it makes you feel better, go find the other one and post it.

[bobbobbins01]

5. National security is such a joke.

Why do we even have it?? Think of the money we could save if we just cut it from the budget.

[uponit7771]

49. Far Left loves Snowden so yeah, we can' take them seriously when it comes to NS

[seekthetruth]

7. Blah blah blah?

Thanks for undercutting my constitutional right to vote how I please.

Ever served in the military and gone through the arduous process and training to obtain a top secret security clearance? I doubt it. (I did)

The "peons" have to follow the rules but our leaders don't? And when they're caught we just say "oh get over it"?

Tell that to every sailor, marine, soldier and airman who's responsible for keeping classified material secure....and she even leaked classified info to someone without a clearance....

It's bullshit.

[AgingAmerican]

8. Better tell the FBI then

Because they are the ones pursuing this thing.

[Seeinghope]

9. Watching the videos of her answers about the e-mails and then watching her change her answers

About the emails and then watching her expression when being pressed legally about the e-mails says it all. Keep your head in the sand. She keeps lying, it is on video. No matter what Hillary Clinton does it is O.K. by her supporters. Just admit it, the truth doesn't mean anything to you either.

[BootinUp]

10. They are just following their leader

and Bernie can do no wrong (according to him).

[Seeinghope]

20. Did the IG issue a report on him? Is the FBI investigating him? Does he have a (ahem) charity that

countries in the ME donated hundreds of millions of dollars to while he was conducting classified work for the U.S.Government and giving arms contracts to those same ME countries? Did he continue to keep an advisor after was was told not to by Prsident Obama? ......... No? I didn't think so.

[Live and Learn]

11. Yep, laws, laws, laws. Who needs them? nt

[uponit7771]

15. She broke no laws...but nice try

[Live and Learn]

17. Let's let the authorities decide that. nt

[uponit7771]

19. They have

[Live and Learn]

21. Wow, inside information? Or just more crap?

I am betting on the second.

[uponit7771]

34. Inside info to Sanders camp.... called reality, its easy to get

[840high]

56. You wouldn't know

reality if it bit you in the arse.

[Live and Learn]

57. I am appalled at the waste of tax payer money spent on investigation when they obviously could just

have called you and gotten the 'reality' for free. We should just do away with the entire expensive justice system and give you the job since you already know it all.

[Seeinghope]

22. The FBI is done with their investigation? No? I didn't think so. Nice try.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

25. Why do you find it necessary to decieve?

[uponit7771]

35. lol... you guys are going to be so depressed when they say she's cleared and if they say she's

... not clear you're still going to be depressed when she says so what and wins against tRump anyway.

Sigh

:rolleyes:@HDS

[B Calm]

14. It sure blows up her strong on national security propaganda!

[TCJ70]

16. Rules, schmules! Am I right? n/t

[mmonk]

18. That's right, what she did is that.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

23. server, foundation, server, foundation

As for the emails, she should have turned them over on her last day, just like everyone one else does

[CorkySt.Clair]

26. But if we only had all the facts, poverty would be eradicated for all!

[Land of Enchantment]

28. The guilty party. Throw away the key!!!!!

[Sheepshank]

31. Just like, "if the world is upside down, as Ancient Astronaut Theorists suggest....,

then wouldn't the Australians be a result of cross migration from England and their languages almost identical, and wouldn't the seasons be opposite"

The email bravados, buying into the most stupid and inane of conspiracies and reasonings....and so many are buying it.

[cpwm17]

32. Rules and laws are for the little guy:

RBInMaine:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022987793

Snowden is a criminal on the run, needs to be captured, and brought back to face justice.

The NSA matter is total hype. No one is being listened in on without a court order. This program was in place for years and before Obama took office, and his administration has scrubbed it up. Oversight is and has been in place. There are checks and balances. This is the post-9/11 world. We just had people killed and maimed in Boston for goodness sake.

Snowden broke federal law with this leak. He needs to be brought back to face justice. If convicted, he needs to do some serious time.

Snowden did the American people a huge favor exposing major violations to our privacy. What services did Hillary provide the American people by exposing secrets and violating FOIA rules?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

37. Good find

[Octafish]

39. Thank you.

Like an organized hypocrisy, or something.

[QC]

43. You should look up what he had to say about Hillary last time around.

Really harsh stuff. It's funny how flexible so many people's convictions are.

[pmorlan1]

46. Well this explains a lot

[tex-wyo-dem]

33. Well, the real question is...

Why did she try to hide her emails? What is she trying to hide?

[realmirage]

41. She's hiding leprechauns. LEPRECHAUNS. I knew it all along. The leprechaun takeover is REAL

[realmirage]

40. RIGHT ON!

This is the reality

[Martin Eden]

44. It will mean a lot if the result is President Trump

Hillary Clinton showed very poor judgment in violating the rules then repeatedly lying about it.

The question is whether this could tip the general election.

We may not have heard the last of the damaging revelations.

I want Donald Trump to be defeated more than I want a true progressive (Bernie Sanders) in the White House.

[cherokeeprogressive]

51. Server server server... There I fixed it for you.

[KingFlorez]

53. If Sanders had won the nomination, do you think they'd be talking about the server?

Not at all. If Clinton had not even run and this server was investigated, do you think there would have been this much discussion? Absolutely not.

[RazBerryBeret]

59. Do you really think

the Republicans are not going to talk about this?

I don't think you're ready for that.
but we will see.....

[LoverOfLiberty]

63. Be honest Berners

You only care because you hope it takes her down and instills your candidate.

[pinebox]

80. Wrong.

This is a huge issue and will only serve to help Trump win the general.
You can't spin an FBI investigation as a RW meme no matter how much you try. The fact is Hillary is under a criminal investigation.

[jillan]

69. I'm so sorry to tell you that this has NOTHING to do with Bernie and his supporters & everything

to do with a Federal investigation of your candidate.

won't mean diddly shit come a week from today

Good luck with that.

[sibelian]

70. She's weird. She's weird and lumpy and phoney and... sort of throwbackish.

I'm sorry. I just had to say it. She's like a worn out lolcat from the late 90s.

[LWolf]

71. What you, and your "team," don't get:

It's not "anti-Hillary," and it's not "delusion."

It IS anti-neo-liberalism. That's real, and it's driving many of us. Clinton is just the figurehead. It's not about her. It's about neo-liberalism, the neo-liberal establishment and their army of fucking deluded supporters.

Just like you and your team still don't get it when Sanders and HIS supporters keep saying it's not about him. The "revolution" against neo-liberals exists and continues with or without him.

That's why it's not "done," and won't ever BE done.

[randome]

72. If it wasn't about Clinton, then there wouldn't be such galactic-level foolishness about her emails.

You're right in that change is never done. But Sanders will not be the next President.

Since Clinton obviously WILL be our next President, it behooves those of us who truly want change to start to work with the material at hand.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[LWolf]

81. I don't think she's going to be the next president. nt

[wiggs]

75. Steak or fish. nt

[betsuni]

73. K&R

[morningfog]

74. FBI criminal investigation. It's as serious as it can get.

[CountAllVotes]

76. FBI criminal investigation.

Damn right it is serious! If it was you or me, we'd be in jail by now!

[My Good Babushka]

78. It's perfectly illustrative of a political culture where

it is impossible for a wealthy, politically or corporate-connected person to be culpable of anything, as the laws are written to be so malleable that it is impossible to break them, but where poor are convicted of breaking laws at every turn, and they are brutally punished when not in "full compliance" to these laws.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1302443-homelessness-isnt-a-crime-but-when-youre-homeless-youre-breaking-the-law/

[pinebox]

79. I like how you Hillary supporters think the FBI is the Keystone cops

and how they are basically this guy